Have you found any method or supplement that has improved your sleep?

[Vash]

Growth has drastically improved my sleep. Huge difference.

 

[Clavicular's Hammer]

I just ordered this Magnesium Glycinate.

Same haha

 

[Powerslide]

Epithalon at 1mg daily for a month, then used as needed (usually once or twice a week) worked amazing for the 2 rats in our house. One rat has had sleep problems since their 20's. They now sleep through the night. I found that after the initial "onboarding" of a 30 day cycle and a 2 week break, the rat would get sleepy during the day if epi was given once a day. Switching to once or twice a week solved that problem.

Nasal spray or pinning?

 

[CandyCap]

Nasal spray or pinning?

Pinning right before bed.

 

[Clavicular's Hammer]

Nasal spray or pinning?

I was thinking I would try my first nasal spray with this one but then learned all the research on it was done by pinning

 

[Powerslide]

I was thinking I would try my first nasal spray with this one but then learned all the research on it was done by pinning

peptide critic had a good video for epi/dsip if you want to go that route. I have ordered dsip but they were out of epi so waiting to order it

 

[tcpnomad]

Epithalon at 1mg daily for a month, then used as needed

May I ask - where did you pick up this protocol from? From all I have read, the recommended protocol is 0.2-0.5mg (or older 5-10mg) 10-20 days on, 4-6 months off. I would appreciate your thoughts.

 

[CandyCap]

May I ask - where did you pick up this protocol from? From all I have read, the recommended protocol is 0.2-0.5mg (or older 5-10mg) 10 days on, 4 months off. I would appreciate your thoughts.

We tried the lower dose to on-board. We did not see results. We read that others do a higher dose with better outcomes. So we started gradually going up...2mg was too much and we settled on 1mg.

 

[tcpnomad]

We tried the lower dose to on-board. We did not see results. We read that others do a higher dose with better outcomes. So we started gradually going up...2mg was too much and we settled on 1mg.

What was your experience at 2mg?

 

[CandyCap]

What was your experience at 2mg?

We both felt groggy and not as alert during waking hours. Wanting to nap all the time.
Everyone is different. YMMV

 

[Creasey77]

Can I ask where you got your epithalon from and was it tested? I want some but can't find anyone who tests it

 

[Clavicular's Hammer]

Can I ask where you got your epithalon from and was it tested? I want some but can't find anyone who tests it

Coming from Andy Pep Studio, their most recent test is from last year.

 

[toologic]

I take both mag threonate and glycinate. DSIP has worked wonders for me.

 

[AllCourtTENNIS]

Many of us are on a sleep improvement journey and I thought we should have a dedicated sleep thread to share what we have tried and what works.

Throughout my life I’ve found most things that help me sleep tend to make me sleep hard but shorter. This includes most intense exercise and even CJC1295.

Getting into bed at a set evening time like 9pm has really helped.

Got epithalon on the way. Thinking about starting magnesium supplements.

But what have you tried and what has worked for you?

I've struggled with insomnia for about 3 years. I take magnesium glycinate and half a trazadone at bedtime, but something magical happened when I found my reta dose. I had been on tirz for a while and titrated up slowly. Right around 8mg I started sleeping so deeply again. omg it made me feel like a new person.

 

[BNLFL]

Same haha

Should be here today.

 

[ParfumeT1]

The main components of my sleep stack are:

Magnesium Glycinate​

Glycine​

If I need some extra, deep, or fast recovery, I'll add:

Ashwagandha​

Apigenin​

 

[Clavicular's Hammer]

Last couple nights I have slept from like 9-10pm to 3-4am. Think this might be from BPC in the evening as that is what others have experienced. Also on Reta which I find requires a snack to make it through the night.

First night I was hooped, stayed up.

After all of you brought up magnesium I thought I’d try a Hand full of pumpkin seeds and slice of bread with peanut butter and sure enough I fell asleep hard and finished out the night.

 

[birdwhacker]

Glycine and taurine.

Epithalon.

Tuckering yourself out with exercise

 

[bokonon]

My sleep issue is that I wakeup about 3 hours after falling asleep and then I'm up for hours. Probably due to cortisol spikes. I tried DSIP, but it did nothing for me.
I started taking 400mg of Magnesium Glycinate at bedtime and it's made a huge difference. I am getting a great night of sleep about 90% of the time. I wear an Apple Watch to track my sleep and the stats are backing up how I feel. For me, Magnesium Glycinate is one of my all-time top supplements.

Still interested to hear how Epitalon works for you guys.

For this problem CBN combined with CBD or even better with THc was the solution. According to my sleep doc, my sleep pattern is perfect with this, and I am perfectly awake during the day.

 

[BNLFL]

Last couple nights I have slept from like 9-10pm to 3-4am.

Close to me. I've always gone to bed early due to work, and still do even though I'm retired. So, 8:30 to anywhere from midnight, it's usually around 2 or 3 and I just lay there till 4:30 and get up. That Magnesium Glycinate showed up and I'll pop one tonight. My wife wants one too. Hopefully it works.