can you elaborate on the items you suggested?
All my mass is in my core and i can feel it shrinking and i'm getting really stoked. I don't mind if i lose some muscle mass as i've always had really thick muscular thighs and core. I've always tried to get the abs to pop but, extensively working my stomach/core just made me look thick and i don't like it.
Yes, my phone autocorrected, I meant to say masterone.
These are all anabolic/androgenic steroids, so I'm unsure if it's suitable on this board, let me know if I'm over a line.
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NB: This is not a recommendation to use these drugs, and there can be severe side effects, especially if you have cardiovascular issues, high cholesterol, kidney/liver issues etc.
I just feel like some discussion around it is healthy, considering some transformations you see on social media, celebrities etc - which are simply not achievable through peptides alone.
Keep in mind that steroids generally are unhealthy, no question about it. So it is a risk/reward thing, but definitely not something to take lightly or do on a whim.
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Before considering any kind of anabolics, keep in mind that they are generally harsher on your body than the peptides you already take. And there are more considerations to make before adding it to your current treatment. They are also banned in a different way than what peptides are most places.
First off, all of them can impact blood pressure and cholesterol quite badly - there are definitely individual differences as with anything, but I do recommend a lot more caution if you consider adding any anabolic - especially if you have any weight related issues/diseases.
Testosterone everyone has some kind of relationship to, the higher your testosterone level is - the more it takes for your body to go catabolic, so you can diet harder without losing muscle mass as long as you have enough protein - there is definitely a limit to this of course, and the more you take the more effect (and side effects) you get.
Personally I think a low dose trt can have more health benefits than demerits for most men at 40+. But that is also individual and situational, so it's best to consult a doctor and do some blood panels.
But generally, testosterone would be considered the safest anabolic steroid to use. I have seen very good results with the combination and glp-1s. But I was not able to find any studies supporting any synergetic effect, I believe it's just that both works but with different mechanics.
Testosterone comes in injectable form and as a cream/patch. There are some orals, but I don't know enough about them to make an educated statement since I never read up on it since it adds a toll on the liver and I don't see why anyone would do that when there is no need.
As for the others mentioned:
Winstrol has a significant effect on metabolism and accelerates the fat-burning process which can dramatically change body-composition. It comes in oral and injectable form. This drug has a high toxicity for the liver, especially on high doses over longer time-frames. It's a go-to drug for bodybuilders when getting ready for the stage, and I would be surprised if it's not used by movie stars when preparing for roles.
Masterone is not a very strong steroid, but it has some interesting effects, it competitively inhibits the aromatose enzyme, which is responsible for converting testosterone into estrogen. So it's very often used in combination with other steroids in order to alleviate estrogen related side effects. Only available as an injection (some would claim it has an oral form, but it's not the same thing, and I doubt it's good for the liver). Other than the aromatose inhibiting effect it also increases free testosterone which helps inhibit catabolism and it reduces water retention in the body.
Anavar is probably the safest oral, has significant fat burning properties and is unlikely to significantly suppress testosterone production at low doses (though personally I always recommend a testosterone base with any other AAS you take). Lipoprotein lipase is an enzyme that plays a crucial role in the metabolism of fats, and overexpression of this enzyme can lead to insulin resistance and obesity. Studies have shown that Anavar can decrease lipoprotein lipase activity, which may help to prevent the accumulation of fat in the body.
That covers the usual ones for this specific purpose, there are others. But some I won't even mention because the risk/reward isn't really worth considering for someone that's on a fat-loss journey and not doing bodybuilding/powerlifting.
I want to again underline that I do not recommend that you use any of these, I do so personally - But that does not make it a good idea. I'm just fed up with unrealistic transformations being posted and claimed to be done naturally - so i wanted to write a bit about it.
As an example, this is me after a very lazy period during the corona lockdown. The timespan from first to last photo is around 3-4 months. I wasn't specifically trying to lose weight, it was just a side effect from lifting and building muscle - and my diet was definitely not great. But keep in mind that it comes with a lot higher risk than glp-1s.
The messed up skin on my arms (and some on my back) is a direct effect from playing around with steroids in my early 20s without understanding how to manage and dose it properly. Could have been easily avoided, but i was not educated enough.
As for your mass and core. The best way to make the abs pop, is a lower fat %. Focus on compound movements and your core comes along naturally - And your proportions look a lot better if you make sure not to neglect your chest shoulders and back. A few sets on abs and obliques after each workout helps, but no need to overdo it. I love land mine twists and kneeling rope crunches for abs. Leg raises are great too.
