Is Nexa no longer cool

The prices seem crazy to me after exploring the many vendors in the grey market space.
1. Even the u.s. vendors that take c.c. are half compared to going with EL.
2. I am destined to pay the "chicken tax" bc I'm not doing crypto. I've bought all kinds of stuff from all over the world with a c.c.
 
I am not the biggest fan of Nexa on pricing grounds. I think there are quite a few good alternatives. It's unfortunate that being such a gray market means that there's not one good centralized source of pricing + quality information. Means that there's less pressure on sellers to make prices reasonable...
 
That is not the issue. He is a target for the feds by having such a public website.

You can't be the Amazon of peptides and not get raided eventually. But maybe he is "too big to fail." I don't know, but lots of bad vibes for Cain's future.
I hope that doesn't happen, but if it does, I will have to fondly remember him as being my first. 😆
 
My guess for high prices is partly because of the non-crypto tax.

It's a glorified group buy with the pre-orders for tirz and reta, so the higher prices are not simply for non-crypto use or testing but arguably a premium for the legal risk Cain is taking by being so popular and easy to find.

Other group buys do testing and have non-crypto options, including some with Stripe for directly using a credit card. The charge for using Stripe is only like 4 percent of the total.
 
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Not, most US suppliers charge a lot more and don't offer kits and the use cc on purchases.
Cain's other, sister website wants the highest prices possible for reta. Like $1850 for R48 (currently on sale for $1550), as mentioned in this forum before. So Cain is not trying to price farily. Just what is best for Cain -- supply vs. demand.

In the Meso world, most bros have been around long enough to not buy from single-vial bozos that price in dollars per mg. They may buy reta directly from China instead, such as if they are getting other things from China anyway.
 
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An update; I bought sema from Nexa and am up to 1.0 mg and have not had any appetite supression whatsoever. I have gained 30 lbs since last year when I started buying from them. I am beyond frustrated and won't be buying from them anymore. The only effect I've felt has been nausea and fatigue. I'm over it!
 
An update; I bought sema from Nexa and am up to 1.0 mg and have not had any appetite supression whatsoever. I have gained 30 lbs since last year when I started buying from them. I am beyond frustrated and won't be buying from them anymore. The only effect I've felt has been nausea and fatigue. I'm over it!
Sema never gave me any suppression in the 6 months I used it. I got Reta from them and it locked me down. I've heard Tirz is also good for suppression. I'm done with Nexa now after using some of the other grey vendors here.
 
An update; I bought sema from Nexa and am up to 1.0 mg and have not had any appetite supression whatsoever. I have gained 30 lbs since last year when I started buying from them. I am beyond frustrated and won't be buying from them anymore. The only effect I've felt has been nausea and fatigue. I'm over it!
Never had an issue with his products. I say BS
 
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People have all kinds of reactions and non-reactions, even to different excipients (and therefore to different vendors).

Personally, I want to try all the GLPs. The only ones on my radar that I haven't tried yet are mazdutide and the new oral Wegovy. So far, most of the GLPs (sema, survo, reta, tirz, and orfo) hit me pretty much the same, though liraglutide seems to have the most sides lately.
 
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To be clear, you're calling BS on their subjective experience because of your own subjective experience?
I do think that that is what is happening however, I think the response has less to do with the subjectivity than the tone and intent which appears to infer that ALL Nexa products are unreliable/ineffective. I know that I am able to read their post that way and that is kind of "BS" because it isn't factual. Nexa products have helped and continue to help a lot of people lose weight. Again - for the 100th time - I am not a fanboy and have a decade's worth of straight gray to prove it. I just appreciate non-inflammatory analysis.

Maybe that is why it was called "bs."

Just spitballin'.
 
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I do think that that is what is happening however, I think the response has less to do with the subjectivity than the tone and intent which appears to infer that ALL Nexa products are unreliable/ineffective. I know that I am able to read their post that way and that is kind of "BS" because it isn't factual. Nexa products have helped and continue to help a lot of people lose weight. Again - for the 100th time - I am not a fanboy and have a decades worht of straight gray to prove it. I just appreciate non-inflammatory analysis.

Maybe that is why it was called "bs."

Juust spitballin'.
Agreed
 
OTOH, some people are just tired of paying more for getting nothing special. So it's hard for me to assume intent when the prices are so different.
 
OTOH, some people are just tired of paying more for getting nothing special. So it's hard for me to assume intent when the prices are so different.
I would hope that those people would recognize that Nexa doesn't fit their paradigm anymore and move on to the grey and all that entails. Sema, is sema, is sema no matter from Nexa, Lilly, or TFC. I ask myself: "What then are the other variables that I am able to affect or control or measure and why would I continue to choose to purchase from Vendor A when the variables I most care about are better supplied by Vendor B?"

I have a hard time believing that I continue to purchase from Vendor A if I already know that I am going to be displeased. Of course, that is also possible as we humans do have a strong track record of making the same non-self-critical choices over and over and over.
 
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An update; I bought sema from Nexa and am up to 1.0 mg and have not had any appetite supression whatsoever. I have gained 30 lbs since last year when I started buying from them. I am beyond frustrated and won't be buying from them anymore. The only effect I've felt has been nausea and fatigue. I'm over it

I do think that that is what is happening however, I think the response has less to do with the subjectivity than the tone and intent which appears to infer that ALL Nexa products are unreliable/ineffective. I know that I am able to read their post that way and that is kind of "BS" because it isn't factual. Nexa products have helped and continue to help a lot of people lose weight. Again - for the 100th time - I am not a fanboy and have a decades worth of straight gray to prove it. I just appreciate non-inflammatory analysis.

Maybe that is why it was called "bs."

Just spitballin'.
Ive said it time and time again this forum is BIAS against him you see NEXA post here? nope he stays away because all he gets is hate.

I even had a post i made get closed because i support him.
Not because my post was wrong or bad or even my comments on it but because of my support for him is very open here
 
Okay, spent the last hour catching up on this discussion. I'd call myself overly cautious; I filter whenever reconstituting.

I want the following out of a vendor: if not Nexa, then I'd ask folks to DM me alternatives:
  1. Testing - layers, vendor 3rd party from J, as well as organized group testing. I appreciate the multiple data points and when reconstituting with an overfill.
  2. Ships from the USA (yes I know 99% originates in China)
  3. Payment - I don't mind going through hoops, but something other than crypto
I only purchase Nexa on pre-sale and wait for testing. The prices are high, but they check off the above for me. If there is an alternative, I'm here for it.
 
Okay, spent the last hour catching up on this discussion. I'd call myself overly cautious; I filter whenever reconstituting.

I want the following out of a vendor: if not Nexa, then I'd ask folks to DM me alternatives:
  1. Testing - layers, vendor 3rd party from J, as well as organized group testing. I appreciate the multiple data points and when reconstituting with an overfill.
  2. Ships from the USA (yes I know 99% originates in China)
  3. Payment - I don't mind going through hoops, but something other than crypto
I only purchase Nexa on pre-sale and wait for testing. The prices are high, but they check off the above for me. If there is an alternative, I'm here for it.
most only purchase presales but if he has stock of something im low or out of i buy from him.
jeep USA warehouse is a good option they have great prices and fast shipping
 
Okay, spent the last hour catching up on this discussion. I'd call myself overly cautious; I filter whenever reconstituting.

I want the following out of a vendor: if not Nexa, then I'd ask folks to DM me alternatives:
  1. Testing - layers, vendor 3rd party from J, as well as organized group testing. I appreciate the multiple data points and when reconstituting with an overfill.
  2. Ships from the USA (yes I know 99% originates in China)
  3. Payment - I don't mind going through hoops, but something other than crypto
I only purchase Nexa on pre-sale and wait for testing. The prices are high, but they check off the above for me. If there is an alternative, I'm here for it.


This^
I'll buy something from a US warehouse/Chinese Vendor and have to wait weeks to coordinate testing with others who purchased the same batch. Many times I just miss group testing getting closed by a day or 2. And once I finally get in a test group, I'm usually paying $40-$50. Not to mention, I'm also currently going back and forth with a popular vendor - trying to get shipping confirmation for an order I paid for 5 days ago.

For me, the nex sales are worth it. The extra cost guarantees that I have my order in 3 days flat. And am practically guaranteed quicker vendor-sponsored and buyer testing due to a strong community. The buyer testing usually has a good # of folks, so i'm usually paying $10-15. At the end of the day... I like the cult.
 
Okay, spent the last hour catching up on this discussion. I'd call myself overly cautious; I filter whenever reconstituting.

I want the following out of a vendor: if not Nexa, then I'd ask folks to DM me alternatives:
  1. Testing - layers, vendor 3rd party from J, as well as organized group testing. I appreciate the multiple data points and when reconstituting with an overfill.
  2. Ships from the USA (yes I know 99% originates in China)
  3. Payment - I don't mind going through hoops, but something other than crypto
I only purchase Nexa on pre-sale and wait for testing. The prices are high, but they check off the above for me. If there is an alternative, I'm here for it.
You're a good candidate from group buys, seems like there's a new one popping up every week or so. Finding one is easy, finding a good one is another matter.
 
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My sister was paying WAY too much for Sema. I told her she needed to be on Reta and told her the easiest place to start was Nexaph. Later, I told her she was still paying too much and asked if she wanted in on an order I was placing elsewhere. Nope. She's stuck on Nexaph. That's ok.
 
This^
I'll buy something from a US warehouse/Chinese Vendor and have to wait weeks to coordinate testing with others who purchased the same batch. Many times I just miss group testing getting closed by a day or 2. And once I finally get in a test group, I'm usually paying $40-$50. Not to mention, I'm also currently going back and forth with a popular vendor - trying to get shipping confirmation for an order I paid for 5 days ago.

For me, the nex sales are worth it. The extra cost guarantees that I have my order in 3 days flat. And am practically guaranteed quicker vendor-sponsored and buyer testing due to a strong community. The buyer testing usually has a good # of folks, so i'm usually paying $10-15. At the end of the day... I like the cult.
I've participated in a group testing, and we actually paid extra to do a heavy metals test as well. The number of people really helps get folks organized to send in a vial.
 

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