Is Tirz even something I should consider for 10-15lbs?

[Mewtwo]

I gained a lot of weight from antidepressants and college. No longer on antidepressants. Dropped most of it the last 2 years. Went from about 230 peak weight to just recently breaching the 160 mark as a 5’10 dude with some muscle mass.

I know it probably sounds like I am skinny already at that weight, but I would estimate I’m somewhere in the 16% bodyfat range and just look generally unimpressive with a flubby gut and love handles. As I’ve gotten skinnier the weight has gotten more stubborn and I’ve been meticulously calorie tracking and getting 10k steps, but the final 10-15 pounds I’m looking to lose to get shredded has been very difficult.

I eat high protein (150g+ daily), strength train 3-4 times a week, and cardio daily. I don’t doubt I could do it naturally, but I feel like throwing Tirz at it would just make it less of a ‘battle’ as the biggest thing I struggle with is constant hunger, and it just takes a mental and physical toll to try and ignore my body telling me to eat.

Is doing 2.5-5mg for 2ish months to just finish the job and then maintain worth it? I’m no stranger to drugs and biohacking, I’ve messed around with some SARMs and Anavar before. Dealt with the whole mental piece of ordering grey market research chemicals from china and then putting it into my body. More just asking if the peptide itself is practical for this purpose. Anyone else used short term for vanity weight loss/bodybuilding purposes? Should I just suck it up and finish the job naturally?

 

[normal]

Hell yeah, why not? If it makes it easier to achieve your goals, imo I say do it. Fuck anyone else or their opinions. We're only here ~70 years, why struggle harder with anything than you have to? It's such a weird mindset to have. If an easier road is available, i personally think its fucking stupid to not take that. Pride/ego/shame/fear/etc. are the bane of our existence.

 

[brentm]

You'll probably put it back on if you stop taking it entirely after you achieve your goal.

 

[normal]

Do some research into reta as well. But yeah, agree with brent, be prepared to be on a low-maintenance dose if you want to keep the weight off afterward. Not saying its impossible, but the studies show most people put a good amount back on after they come off.

I do wonder how many of those people never switched up their diet or went back to eating like absolutely dog shit the very next day etc. I'm sure that played a huge part in it. Like "yay i did it, let me go pound 3 big macs to celebrate" type shit and then not stopping from there.

 

[rkl123]

Our health care system has this perverse mentality that we only help you if you're diabetic and very obese. But why shouldn't the only modestly overweight also enjoy these benefits?

 

[zpped]

Our health care system has this perverse mentality that we only help you if you're diabetic and very obese. But why shouldn't the only modestly overweight also enjoy these benefits?

I'm all for him doing whatever he wants... but 16%bf is not "modestly overweight" by any definition.

 

[Mewtwo]

Hell yeah, why not? If it makes it easier to achieve your goals, imo I say do it. Fuck anyone else or their opinions. We're only here ~70 years, why struggle harder with anything than you have to? It's such a weird mindset to have. If an easier road is available, i personally think its fucking stupid to not take that. Pride/ego/shame/fear/etc. are the bane of our existence.

To clarify - I’m not hesitating to take it because I’m insecure about it. I’m more asking about the temporary use for smaller weight loss, as most people taking it seem to be targeting larger weight loss and lifetime use. I’m really looking to take it for a few months to shred some weight, then stop completely.

People who lose weight naturally tend to gain it back as well, but I’ve maintained my weight loss and think I could feasibly keep it off, unless there is a serious hormonal or chemical rebound after coming off that severely slows my metabolism.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

5'10" at 145 pounds sounds too thin. i'm the same height and at 165 i had people telling me i didn't look good.

it's a very unpopular thing here but, i use fat melting injections to target the areas where the fat might never go away.

i'm guessing your head is going to look too gaunt once you go that low.

 

[CallieKat]

I would say yes. But, why not try sema. So much cheaper.

 

[normal]

To clarify - I’m not hesitating to take it because I’m insecure about it. I’m more asking about the temporary use for smaller weight loss, as most people taking it seem to be targeting larger weight loss and lifetime use. I’m really looking to take it for a few months to shred some weight, then stop completely.

People who lose weight naturally tend to gain it back as well, but I’ve maintained my weight loss and think I could feasibly keep it off, unless there is a serious hormonal or chemical rebound after coming off that severely slows my metabolism.

Gotcha, makes sense. Go for it, log your progress on here and let us know how it goes. I'd be interested to see how you do with keeping the weight off after coming off completely since you're coming from not too much weight to lose vs/ trying to do a complete 100lbs transformation.

You may find you want to stay on a small 2.5mg or 5mg every other week or weekly maintenance does for some of the other benefits though. The anti-inflammatory benefits are crazy, I'm only 35 but felt 10 years younger just 2-3 weeks onto 2.5mg. Also the list of positive benefits across a multitude of internal systems and organs related to the metabolic process overall.

Some background on me, always been a bigger guy, but wasn't super overweight until 25 and on. 16-25 I was super in the gym but didnt care about being ripped or low bf, just lifting heavy af. did some test and deca cycles, benched 370 weighed 230 in my prime lifting days etc. Got all the way to like 280 and stopped lifting from like 26-35. Started this in June at 283, starting hitting the gym hard again, sitting at 205 now and wanna lose another 30. I want to stay on this for life though, or possibly switch to reta after. Not really because I think I'll struggle as much with putting the weight back on, but the other benefits I noted.

 

[normal]

I would say yes. But, why not try sema. So much cheaper.

Last year sure, but I mean tirz was recently $150 for 300mg or some shit, price isn't really an issue these days. that's 5 months at max dose for 150 bucks lmao

 

[CallieKat]

If sema works then you are saving the stronger drug for later…why use a gun when you can use a knife…either way it’s up to you.

 

[normal]

If sema works then you are saving the stronger drug for later…why use a gun when you can use a knife…either way it’s up to you.

because the gun is cool and works better/easier lmao plus there's reta ready to go after anyway and a lot more in the pipelines that im sure will start popping into vendors next year and 2026

 

[PrudentBiscotti]

5'10" at 145 pounds sounds too thin. i'm the same height and at 165 i had people telling me i didn't look good.

it's a very unpopular thing here but, i use fat melting injections to target the areas where the fat might never go away.

i'm guessing your head is going to look too gaunt once you go that low.

What were those fat melting injections?

 

[nonyabizznez]

What were those fat melting injections?

😒 Limoncello or lemon sorbet or something like that...

 

[keangkong]

I gained a lot of weight from antidepressants and college. No longer on antidepressants. Dropped most of it the last 2 years. Went from about 230 peak weight to just recently breaching the 160 mark as a 5’10 dude with some muscle mass.

I know it probably sounds like I am skinny already at that weight, but I would estimate I’m somewhere in the 16% bodyfat range and just look generally unimpressive with a flubby gut and love handles. As I’ve gotten skinnier the weight has gotten more stubborn and I’ve been meticulously calorie tracking and getting 10k steps, but the final 10-15 pounds I’m looking to lose to get shredded has been very difficult.

I eat high protein (150g+ daily), strength train 3-4 times a week, and cardio daily. I don’t doubt I could do it naturally, but I feel like throwing Tirz at it would just make it less of a ‘battle’ as the biggest thing I struggle with is constant hunger, and it just takes a mental and physical toll to try and ignore my body telling me to eat.

Is doing 2.5-5mg for 2ish months to just finish the job and then maintain worth it? I’m no stranger to drugs and biohacking, I’ve messed around with some SARMs and Anavar before. Dealt with the whole mental piece of ordering grey market research chemicals from china and then putting it into my body. More just asking if the peptide itself is practical for this purpose. Anyone else used short term for vanity weight loss/bodybuilding purposes? Should I just suck it up and finish the job naturally?

I'm not going to answer one way or the other, however, you should understand that it's generally more likely that a person will lose weight than a person who has lost that weight will successfully keep it off. Once you've lost weight with tirzepatide, keeping the weight off won't be easy. Taking it for a lifetime will likely be required. If you think that you can keep off the weight once lost, then I suggest you challenge yourself by losing it in the first place without tirz. If you can do that, then the odds of you being able to keep it off without the tirz increase.

 

[geoguy78]

You do you. Plenty of bodybuilders cutting with glp-1s. For that little amount of weight I'd go semaglutide though for the cost savings. Considering it's such a small amount of weight to lose though, what's your plan? Many of us intend to stay on these meds permanently because we have lost large amounts of weight. Do you plan on injecting weekly or more often to keep that 10-15 pounds at bay long term? Personally, if that's all I had to lose I probably wouldn't think it was worth the hassle and expense unless I was a bodybuilding competitor and really needed to stay cut.

 

[zpped]

You do you. Plenty of bodybuilders cutting with glp-1s. For that little amount of weight I'd go semaglutide though for the cost savings. Considering it's such a small amount of weight to lose though, what's your plan? Many of us intend to stay on these meds permanently because we have lost large amounts of weight. Do you plan on injecting weekly or more often to keep that 10-15 pounds at bay long term? Personally, if that's all I had to lose I probably wouldn't think it was worth the hassle and expense unless I was a bodybuilding competitor and really needed to stay cut.

You think the price between sema/tirz is meaningful anymore that we see 50c tirz?

 

[geoguy78]

You think the price between sema/tirz is meaningful anymore that we see 50c tirz?

Depends on your budget I guess. I don't keep track of sema prices but I'm making a assumption that they are dropping as well?

 

[zpped]

Depends on your budget I guess. I don't keep track of sema prices but I'm making a assumption that they are dropping as well?

Nowhere near as much as tirz has. I think the cost difference between the two would only matter to a small few. Now reta needs to reach tirz prices.

 

[Mewtwo]

I may just give it a shot and if I gain it back so be it. Anyone have a recommendation for a vendor with a small moq? I’ve looked at a few of the main ones and they have so far had 2 kit minimums.

 

[zpped]

I may just give it a shot and if I gain it back so be it. Anyone have a recommendation for a vendor with a small moq? I’ve looked at a few of the main ones and they have so far had 2 kit minimums.

Only sales have moq. I don't know of any vendors that you can't buy a single kit from at their list price.

 

[Mewtwo]

Only sales have moq. I don't know of any vendors that you can't buy a single kit from at their list price.

I was definitely looking at sales. Thanks!

 

[Superchicken1]

Is it possible you have loose skin fucking with your perception and it’s not really flab? I have a son at 5’11” 160lbs who’s pretty muscular but he’s super lean at that weight. Can’t imagine dropping anymore. I have another at 5’8 and 145 but is built like a pit bull, 10lbs lighter he was 4% body fat and while he did have muscle, he was mostly just skinny. My point is you may need to work on adding more lean mass.

Bodybuilders use glp’s to cut, but they’re also solidly built. How long have you been training? The meso forums would be a better resource for you if you want to improve body composition.

Lastly, there is evidence going off and on the peptides can make them less effective at the lower doses. Something to keep in mind if you are wanting to cycle off and on. If you start at the lowest suggested dose and lose quickly, I’d cut the dose in half, giving yourself more room to dose higher later.

 

[GimmeABreak]

Last year sure, but I mean tirz was recently $150 for 300mg or some shit, price isn't really an issue these days. that's 5 months at max dose for 150 bucks lmao

You're right. At this point the cost of most of the GLP1's at a low dose is about the cost of Pizza every month.

 

[normal]

You're right. At this point the cost of most of the GLP1's at a low dose is about the cost of Pizza every month.

15mg max dose is like 30 bucks a month lmao it's wild times for sure

 

[Mewtwo]

Is it possible you have loose skin fucking with your perception and it’s not really flab? I have a son at 5’11” 160lbs who’s pretty muscular but he’s super lean at that weight. Can’t imagine dropping anymore. I have another at 5’8 and 145 but is built like a pit bull, 10lbs lighter he was 4% body fat and while he did have muscle, he was mostly just skinny. My point is you may need to work on adding more lean mass.

Bodybuilders use glp’s to cut, but they’re also solidly built. How long have you been training? The meso forums would be a better resource for you if you want to improve body composition.

Lastly, there is evidence going off and on the peptides can make them less effective at the lower doses. Something to keep in mind if you are wanting to cycle off and on. If you start at the lowest suggested dose and lose quickly, I’d cut the dose in half, giving yourself more room to dose higher later.

I’ve been consistently training for about two years, been lifting on and off for a number of years before that. Always been athletic, just hit a rough patch mentally in college. I would say I didn’t really know what I was doing training and nutrition wise until the last year or so. I 100% don’t have enough muscle, as I’ve been trying to lose all this fat for the last two years, so I’ve never had an opportunity to do a proper bulk.

I don’t know if it’s fat distribution genetics or what, but it’s not loose skin. I 100% have an inner tube of fat around my midsection that I can grab. Even though I have lost around 50-60 pounds, it’s been very slow and I am young with elastic skin, so I don’t think I have much loose skin, if any.

My goal with this substance is to overshoot a sustainable day to day bodyfat, get down to around 10%, and then start a lean bulk. I may use it again in the future if I find it to be very helpful with minimal sides, but I would prefer to get muscle on my frame, raising my TDEE to a point where cutting isn’t so difficult, and being more satisfied with my physique at a higher bf%, where I don’t have to use any substance to maintain my body.

Getting down to 180 was pretty easy, to get to 160 I’ve been eating 1500 cals, walking 4 miles a day, and strength training 3-4 times a week. Obviously a horrible experience that left me constantly tired, hungry, and in a bad mood. I know I can get down to ~150 on my own, but ideally the peptide will just make it less painful of an experience. My biggest issues when cutting is constant hunger, food noise, and impulse control. Seems like I would be a very good candidate for the drug and if I decide to try it out and then don’t need it in the future, seems like the potential long term effects of one or two cycles is negligible, especially compared to something like testosterone.

 

[Mewtwo]

Is it possible you have loose skin fucking with your perception and it’s not really flab? I have a son at 5’11” 160lbs who’s pretty muscular but he’s super lean at that weight. Can’t imagine dropping anymore. I have another at 5’8 and 145 but is built like a pit bull, 10lbs lighter he was 4% body fat and while he did have muscle, he was mostly just skinny. My point is you may need to work on adding more lean mass.

Bodybuilders use glp’s to cut, but they’re also solidly built. How long have you been training? The meso forums would be a better resource for you if you want to improve body composition.

Lastly, there is evidence going off and on the peptides can make them less effective at the lower doses. Something to keep in mind if you are wanting to cycle off and on. If you start at the lowest suggested dose and lose quickly, I’d cut the dose in half, giving yourself more room to dose higher later.

I appreciate the advice, here’s the fat im talking about for reference. I will very likely be too skinny at peak cut, but the intention is not to get to 145-150 pounds and maintain that. That would be insane 😂

 

[geoguy78]

I appreciate the advice, here’s the fat im talking about for reference. I will very likely be too skinny at peak cut, but the intention is not to get to 145-150 pounds and maintain that. That would be insane 😂
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Most of us men losing with tirz/sema end up looking like that anyways, so if you're confident you can lose the weight anyways and your goal is to prevent anymore skinny fat...... tirz is probably not worth it.

 

[Mewtwo]

Most of us men losing with tirz/sema end up looking like that anyways, so if you're confident you can lose the weight anyways and your goal is to prevent anymore skinny fat...... tirz is probably not worth it.

I would think most using it probably do not have specific targeted goals for their physique or are tracking calories. I’d imagine most users are just intuitive eating with it and get to the point I'm at and are satisfied. I don’t think a skinny fat physique would be a consequence of the drug itself vs natural weight loss and anyone could use it to get diced if they really wanted to, but it’s just not what most people care about or are using it for and adding it on top of an already disciplined and active lifestyle could have some crazy results.

I do see your point though. Still haven’t decided one way or another but i figure it ultimately wouldn’t hurt to just try it out.