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LIPO-C with NAD+
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Thanks! And then do you add a certain number of units to a reconned vial? Obviously you don't add 15mL to it.Lidocaine HCL powder is readily available.To make a 2% solution you weigh out 3 grams and add it to 15ml of sterile water, saline, or a recon solution. I have used it for a few things.
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GimmeABreak
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Try placing the order, mine went through. I added about 1.8ml to my vial of Carved today and it really didn't help with the injection site stinging/burning that lasted about an hour. I probably had about 16-18ml left in the vial.
GimmeABreak
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I thought that refrigerating NAD+ can cause it to gel up? I haven't been keeping mine in the fridge would could be why it is thick and brown. Takes a minute or so to get it into the 31G syringe because it is so thick.It was super thick - I tried all the tricks. It wasn’t B12 red - it was deep orange/brown. It literally blobbed out of the vial into the syringe when it would actually come out. I have a vial of AM Shred 2.0 from HVY and it’s somewhat thick and typical B12 red - Carved wasn’t anything close to that. It was…. Off for sure.
I have found in all this from several vendors/people to make sure and keep NAD/NAD+ or NADH refrigerated if it’s reconstituted. Likely what the issue was with Carved.
Wow that stuff has some sting! 1.8mL of lidocaine is a lot of think - did wherever you injected go numb?
GimmeABreak
Research Enthusiast
No, I added 1.8ml to the 20ml vial (that was actually down to about 17-18ml. This is the same ratio as Hallendale Bioboost+ (10mg/ml)
You are using a 1% lidocaine solution? I would use the Lidocaine HCL powder and the LIPO-C to dissolve it in a sterilized vial and make a stronger solution. Then, inject it back into the vial to combine.
GimmeABreak
Research Enthusiast
Ok, now I need to hunt down lidocaine powder...
GimmeABreak
Research Enthusiast
I requested replacement vials from Kimera for the crystalized Pegasus (Lipo-C w/NAD+) and received an email that they shipped yesterday. Hopefully, they have the problem corrected.
They also show in stock on their website if anyone else wants to give them another shot.
Thank you for that! I may wait to order until you get yours...
GimmeABreak
Research Enthusiast
It is supposed to arrive on Friday but I am out of town until next week, so it may be a minute.
That's fine.. I am leaving tomorrow... and I still have 2 vials of Carved.
Boosey77
New_Member
I’ve been talking to Nexus Aminos and they have been working on LipoC and NAD+. Due to the NAD+ needing to be refrigerated he didn’t think it would be cost effective to combine them and cold ship them. I’ve bought several vials of blends from other vendors that had NAD+ premixed and not kept cold during shipping and they all degraded and had to be chucked.
His thought is to do a vial of LipoC (10ml vial) and bundle it with a vial of 100mg NAD+ that would be powder. Then reconstituted once we you get it and add it to the LipoC and kept in the fridge. He said roughly around 60.00 but that isn’t set in stone. They are US based. He would do a limited run on his site to start and then can increase availability if it does well. Would any of y’all be interested? Understandably he wanted an idea of interest in moving forward.
GimmeABreak
Research Enthusiast
How did you know the NAD+ was degraded, did it just feel like it wasn't working or did something happen that you could identify visually? I asked Kimera and they said NOT to store Pegasus in the refrigerator - dark room temperature.
Boosey77
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It was orange/brown and thick. I talked to several vendors (not who the vials that had to be thrown away came from) and all said the same thing. Not refrigerating it can cause degradation and oxidation. I googled it - gotta love google
- and pretty much everything I found said it needs to be refrigerated after it’s reconstituted. I have a bottle of stand alone NAD+ I’ve been using this week and it’s been in the fridge and it’s fine.
GimmeABreak
Research Enthusiast
Given the crystallization problems Kimera is had recently they could be advising not to store in the fridge because they are concerned it will happen again. I have had a vial of Carved for about two weeks at room temp and it seems fine. A little brown but it was like that when I received it.It was orange/brown and thick. I talked to several vendors (not who the vials that had to be thrown away came from) and all said the same thing. Not refrigerating it can cause degradation and oxidation. I googled it - gotta love google
I also have had a vial of buffered NAD+ reconstituted with BAC water stored at room temp for about the same amount of time. I'm due for another pin of this tomorrow and will see how it is holding up.
GimmeABreak
Research Enthusiast
Hallendale is a pretty good value @ ~$50 for 30ml, I just wish they used meythl B12 instead of cyano. I have a full vial and will use it but probably won't order it again.
Valerie
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Following… I’d love to know what the new vial looks like!
The one I get from Groupon is the 10 ml vial. I haven’t seen the 30 ml vial being offered at that price.
