List of Vendors Pausing Operations (28 October 24')

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In light of t̶h̶e̶ i̶n̶d̶i̶c̶t̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶s̶t̶ S̶R̶Y̶ whatever the hell is happening right now, several manufacturers have decided to temporarily cease operations. This thread is for tracking vendors who have made a formal announcement addressing the issue.

Updated Oct 29:
- Sigma Audley says they are back.
- AmoPure is currently accepting orders by email. New website Amolist.com will launch some time in November.
- Yiwujia-Suzhou_Greenway - selling remaining stock in US warehouse, no further sales after
- Shenzhen Biolink
- Tianjin Cangtu (expected duration of 3 days)
 
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Some of these companies may find that they make selling more weight loss drugs to Americans than selling fentanyl. If you sell fentanyl, there is a good chance you'll eventually kill the patient and the legal fights will be tougher. Sell research peptides: Americans want to be thin. And despite the problems with research peptides, our health will improve.
 
Tirz is not controlled either, the us government isn’t going to spend a bunch of money and damage us relations with china for an uncontrolled substance, it’s no different than people buying generic allergy medication from Indian pharmacies
 
@geoguy78 You may be right

Additional update:
Per a user in another forum, Taijin has said customs is going to carry out a large inspection as a result of Lily's ongoing lawsuits. This is another reason why so many manufacturers are halting sales. Wonder if they discovered this while looking into the sale of fentanyl precursors.
 
mopo89 said:
the logical part of me agrees. but the anxious part of me (which is 99.8% of me) is ready to empty my bank account 🤣
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I'm just worried that products I bought on the 18th that only shipped last week won't arrive. It was about $800 worth of stuff. I was going to be done buying for a while after that.
 
geoguy78 said:
After a little looking around, it seems two things are happening simultaneously in the Chinese pharmaceutical world: a narcotics trafficking indictment, and an EL motivated crackdown on tirz manufacturers...
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it does seem coordinated to me in a way. the indictments were done months ago but unsealed last thursday. last monday is when lilly sued the handful of domestic peptide places i think. that's impressive that Lilly's got the FDA, DEA, and DOJ doing their bidding against compounders, medspas, and China manufacturers all at once.

from some of the vendor comments, it also seems like the US has gotten the CCP to agree to some sort of crackdown via Chinese regulators as well.
 
There are now multiple conflicting stories including a new one that says some peptide manufacturers shared suppliers with companies that were manufacturing illegal drugs/drug precursors, and everyone is being scrutinized for their business associations.

Whatever is happening right now, it appears to be very serious.
 
noteablequotable said:
There are now multiple conflicting stories including a new one that says some peptide manufacturers shared suppliers with companies that were manufacturing illegal drugs/drug precursors, and everyone is being scrutinized for their business associations.

Whatever is happening right now, it appears to be very serious.
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For sure they shared the “cooking” lab and this for years, people just discovered it now
 
I understand the ‘they’ll be right back’, et.al. one of the things I have followed in detail for a very, very long time, because I have substantial interests, is Eli Flower. Since my nails are too long to type decently, I will say briefly: longer than a year ago I understood EL had developed a LONG term plan to protect their holdings, patents, and their future. of course they can’t control China, BUT in protecting their 2-5 Trillion $ investment over the next 20 years they are going to wreak havoc protecting their intellectual property. What is happening isn’t EVEN the tippiest top of an iceberg. They WILL impact ALL the markets that get in their way for the future. They will disrupt, over and over and over, to protect their IP. Go ahead, minimize it, but I have a couple well reasoned suggestions. IF you are taking or intend to take one of their drugs in the pipeline, get it now and freeze it. And, Buy EL stock. As little or as much as you can. Oh, and a third thing: stay out of their way, over the next 12-15 years, because they will roll right over you. Just one ancient woman’s thoughts. Happy Halloween.
 
MarisWinter said:
What is happening isn’t EVEN the tippiest top of an iceberg. They WILL impact ALL the markets that get in their way for the future. They will disrupt, over and over and over, to protect their IP. Go ahead, minimize it, but I have a couple well reasoned suggestions. IF you are taking or intend to take one of their drugs in the pipeline, get it now and freeze it.
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I guess we didn't know how good we had it. Hopefully this doesn't impact the rest of the Peptide world.

@Bacchus, would you say it makes sense for sellers to segment their business?
 
MarisWinter said:
I understand the ‘they’ll be right back’, et.al. one of the things I have followed in detail for a very, very long time, because I have substantial interests, is Eli Flower. Since my nails are too long to type decently, I will say briefly: longer than a year ago I understood EL had developed a LONG term plan to protect their holdings, patents, and their future. of course they can’t control China, BUT in protecting their 2-5 Trillion $ investment over the next 20 years they are going to wreak havoc protecting their intellectual property. What is happening isn’t EVEN the tippiest top of an iceberg. They WILL impact ALL the markets that get in their way for the future. They will disrupt, over and over and over, to protect their IP. Go ahead, minimize it, but I have a couple well reasoned suggestions. IF you are taking or intend to take one of their drugs in the pipeline, get it now and freeze it. And, Buy EL stock. As little or as much as you can. Oh, and a third thing: stay out of their way, over the next 12-15 years, because they will roll right over you. Just one ancient woman’s thoughts. Happy Halloween.
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If the right politicians win this election this is what’s going to stop Novo and Lilly. Forced price negotiation. Ozempic/Wegovy in 2027 and Moun/Zep not far after

www.forbes.com

Ozempic ‘Very Likely’ To Be Part Of Medicare Price Negotiations Next Year

President Joe Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act allows Medicare to negotiate costly drug prices with pharmaceutical companies.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
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