4mm is enough. But many of us stopped using 4mm as it is just finicky and more likely to end up with site reactions. I actually prefer 6mm for most peptides and 8mm for very shallow IM on my delts and ventroglute (I'm very lean now so that works fine for me).hi guys ive been using 4mm needles with my reta no issues but my friend is a doctor and said 8mm is better is this true I know should trust but why change?