If you need to test every batch you get to ensure it is above 99% since some people keep testing on a regular basis under 99%, does that not automatically make you want to test every batch you receive (which in turn increases the cost of the kit significantly)?
Nexaph testing
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noteablequotable
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That's fair. Is there a vendor you trust to deliver 99%+ quality 100% of the time? The only one I can think of is QSC (maybe), but they have horrible customer service and you're SOL if there is an issue with your delivery.
Can you share some examples?
peptideusername
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That’s because, after the test is completed, the option to pay a little more and have the test result published is offered to the customer. And as @exploitedworkerbee pointed out (on another forum), that leads to cherry picking results. Have you ever noticed that there are only good test results on the public page of Jano’s website?Check out Janoshik's website. Many current Nexaph results (and a great place to find sources)
I would argue that right now, until that policy changes, the Jano site is one of the worst places to look for sources because you’re only going to find results that the vendors want you to find.
I definitely agree that the "public" ones are the worst place to look at. This is why third party tests are so important, and why communities sharing their results is critical.
... and to be completely clear to everyone here: we're not only talking about Nexaph results. We're talking about everyone listed there.
zpped
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I think you're putting way too much weight on what purity really means in these tests. But if you think QSC delivers high purity numbers you're very mistaken.
noteablequotable
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That was the impression I had based on comments I've seen but I've only seen comments. 100% ready to defer to you on that.
I think 98% is okay and I'm not mad about it. I don't think I've overestimated the value of purity at all.
You're in Peppy's right? There is currently a super long thread about them refusing to help a customer with their package. It's a great example of why I would never work with them.
I saw that in Peppys. I wonder why though
noteablequotable
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QSC honestly just doesn't care. People continue to buy from them when they treat individual customers poorly so they're basically getting away with it.
I've witnessed the poor treatment. Just did my first gyc order I may stick with them
Very interested, everyone makes on how fragile the peptides are and I've read reports swinging in both directions. I was trying to find info on degradation after extended storage but with the newness of this whole GLP research that's hard to find. I have about 18-24 months stash and was trying to decide buy more or not
I have a ways to go yet (probably take at least a year at this rate) and then I NEVER want to go back to the way I was.RaeR3
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There is a telegram that is going test groups going on for T30, T15 and reta 12
zpped
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"purity" is super important, but you know that the "purity" listed on a hplc test result doesn't mean (tirzeptitide/everything else in the vial). In this case it means (tirzepetide/things that are very similar to tirzepetide)
So the purity number on the test is an indicator of degradation and current efficacy, but it doesn't indicate anything at all about safety.
geoguy78
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QSC is a funny one. I've only dealt with them once and it was a pleasant and seamless experience. But I think people need to go into the deal with eyes wide open, and you need to read Tracy's terms of sale down to the letter. If it's not in writing, he's not doing it. If he put it in writing but it's not specific, for example "purity guaranteed" but there's not a percent value specified, don't expect him to make good. I do think there are some clear pro's to using QSC and I wouldn't deter a newbie to the gray world from making them their first purchase. They are probably the biggest seller by volume, and there are probably more third party tests floating out there for QSC products than any other vendor. Just based on the sheer volume of independent testing done, and the volume of reviews, I would be feel ok (definitely not warm and fuzzy!) pinning QSC peps without a test if I was desperate for a glp-1 and didn't have the money to pay for my own testing. I'm pretty confident that they aren't going to sell me something that will kill me. They have a long history of selling AAS to the muscle crowd that predates glp-1s so there's that history to go off of as well. Lord help you though if something goes wrong with your shipment, because there's a decent chance you just threw money away.
I'm currently debating stocking up on more tirz and probably won't use QSC though. I like diversity and the batch I bought tested at the low end of 99% and upper end of 98%. Not bad, but I think they can be doing better than that
noteablequotable
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The fact that they won't help you if anything goes wrong is exactly why I wouldn't recommend to someone new. Most people entering this space ultimately come here because because they don't have enough money to pay the sticker price being charged by pharmaceutical companies or MedSpas. Getting robbed on your first purchase because QSC doesn't care that you didn't get what you were promised is a horrible experience. I'd send someone to Skye or Tydes for their immediate needs before I sent them to QSC.
geoguy78
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Are there really that many people getting screwed though? Yes, it's a risk, but it doesn't seem to happen that often. And we're in a bubble here too, a couple forums and chat groups where the horror stories are inevitably going to come out and get amplified. I've seen Tracy act like an ass and treat a customer like garbage, there's no excuse for that. But I still put QSC in my "reasonably safe to do business with" category.
I really feel like domestic vendors like the ones you mentioned just overcharge for a false sense of security, but that's just my opinion.
noteablequotable
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I haven't documented all of the times QSC has screwed someone over but the folks over at Peppy's have been monitoring their behavior closely and actually have a warning
on their vendor page.Domestic vendors absolutely charge a premium but they also take very good care of their customers. I have first hand experience with that. USPS marked one of my packages from Skye as delivered without dropping off the box and I was really upset because that order wasn't cheap. I reached out to them and not only were they super nice, they promised to reship the package if it wasn't delivered within a few days. I waited and the box was ultimately delivered, but that kind of support is worth its weight in gold.
