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[JoonyO]

Oh no! Try holding the plunger. The little air gives you at least a lilttle more time to react before it gets to sucking in liquid.

I presumed it would stop sucking once the air in the syringe was gone: oops. I get it now. TY 🫡

 

[BNLFL]

I presumed it would stop sucking once the air in the syringe was gone: oops. I get it now. TY 🫡

I'll put the syringe in at a little angle, so the BAC hits the side if I don't hold the plunger, I'm honestly not sure it even matters.

 

[ftb.979]

Normally when I want to learn something new on a topic I know there is a community to find. Whether its couponing, CC points, or this community. I try to find where the communities are talking outside of TT/IG. Sometimes Ill start with Reddit/YT comments. Once I find the forums or groups that have a lot of info. I work on learning the language, acronyms list. There's always some kind of beginner files. Readdddd a lot. Use search bar, then I go back and read again because most of the time what Im looking for is right there. I just dont realize it because I havent made the correlation yet. It is overwhelming at first. Sometimes I take some days as a break to not get overloaded with info.

 

[deliriousduckie]

Agreed with everyone in here, the forums has so much information if you just spend some time looking around and narrowing your search. I just did my first pin yesterday, confident from all the research i've done here and elsewhere lately.

 

[Kadeeglp123]

Lol, it works for me. Let me know if it works for you!

It works I do it as well every otherday

 

[Kadeeglp123]

What I wanted to say was I've read about that peptides are not as delicate as one may think, we try not to foam up the peptides, we try to enter the bac slowly so they're feeling safe and slowly absorbing the liquid, we try to swirl, sometimes those little guys suck up the liquid to quick, but it's not gonna kill them too much of any degree that Jano showed no harm it's done shaking your peps,

 

[DrPEPr]

sometimes those little guys suck up the liquid to quick.

it's not gonna kill them too much

Also depends on the peptide. Some are more fragile than others.
Best practice is not to shake it to hard or squirt BAC/AA on them (... No, I'm not gonna link the same image twice 😉)
Don't be paranoid, but also don't be wreckless.

So - how does this work? You incrementally draw from different vials into the same syringe? Reuse the same needle, or a new one for each vial?

As already mentioned, this will probably dull your needle and might cause cross- contamination.
I'm using 1ml syringes (Luer Lock ftw!!) with a fresh 25G/25mm for each vial and switch to a 27G/12.7mm for pinning but you can go (up/down(?)) to 32G if you like.

 

[endlrls]

Normally when I want to learn something new on a topic I know there is a community to find. Whether its couponing, CC points, or this community. I try to find where the communities are talking outside of TT/IG. Sometimes Ill start with Reddit/YT comments. Once I find the forums or groups that have a lot of info. I work on learning the language, acronyms list. There's always some kind of beginner files. Readdddd a lot. Use search bar, then I go back and read again because most of the time what Im looking for is right there. I just dont realize it because I havent made the correlation yet. It is overwhelming at first. Sometimes I take some days as a break to not get overloaded with info.

This is the way... "Rabbit Hole" research

 

[BNLFL]

Best practice is not to shake it to hard or squirt BAC/AA on them (... No, I'm not gonna link the same image twice 😉)
Don't be paranoid, but also don't be wreckless.

That's been proven false by Peter from Janoshik.

 

[DrPEPr]

That's been proven false by Peter from Janoshik.

He has only been making statements and has never proven anything.

 

[lessthanhalf]

Just reading through any post that looks vaguely interesting or somewhat related to what you are doing is a good way to gradually pick up information by osmosis, this has the advantage of getting you to come across information that you did not know, you did not know. It is otherwise pretty hard to work out where there are things you should know but don't. And there is a search on this forum.

Chatgpt is excellent for specific questions, if you want more accurate to the actual science answers, the easiest way is just use scholar / research mode. In default mode, it can tend to agree with whatever you say and present information from forums as fact, when it is more often anecdotal, and emphasise coherent stories over scientific accuracy. Obviously it is not going to recommend using peptides never tested on humans in that mode.

 

[BNLFL]

He has only been making statements and has never proven anything.

Regardless, I'll take his word over anyone else at this point. Unless someone tests otherwise.

 

[Kadeeglp123]

This is the way... "Rabbit Hole" research

Rabbit Hole research turns into one Hell of a Rat Race at times!
Jumping from hole to hole getting deeper inside, it's awesome that we can get into such research and so much info powered by AI , Science, the Mind and all started on these Fat Bodies we once made us feel inadequate, now we have trimmed up, found friends and groups of people with our same interest who love becoming a scientist in our studies and journeys! it's pretty darn cool I got to say!!

 

[DrPEPr]

Regardless, I'll take his word over anyone else at this point. Unless someone tests otherwise.

Ok, well.. try these:

Randolph, T. W., Schiltz, E., Sederstrom, D., Steinmann, D., Mozziconacci, O., Schöneich, C., Freund, E., Ricci, M. S., Carpenter, J. F., & Lengsfeld, C. S. (2015). Do Not Drop: Mechanical Shock in Vials Causes Cavitation, Protein Aggregation, and Particle Formation. Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences, 104(2), 602–611. https://doi.org/10.1002/jps.24259

Telikepalli, S., Kumru, O. S., Kim, J. H., Joshi, S. B., O'berry, K. B., Blake-Haskins, A. W., Perkins, M. D., Russell Middaugh, C., & Volkin, D. B. (2015). Characterization of the Physical Stability of a Lyophilized IgG1 mAb after Accelerated Shipping-Like Stress. Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences, 104(2), 495–507. https://doi.org/10.1002/jps.24242

Zapadka, K. L., Becher, F. J., Gomes dos Santos, A. L., & Jackson, S. E. (2017). Factors affecting the physical stability (aggregation) of peptide therapeutics. Interface Focus, 7(6), 20170030. https://doi.org/10.1098/rsfs.2017.0030

 

[Kadeeglp123]

That was what I was gonna say, it was on the tip of my tongue

 

[BNLFL]

Ok, well.. try these:

Randolph, T. W., Schiltz, E., Sederstrom, D., Steinmann, D., Mozziconacci, O., Schöneich, C., Freund, E., Ricci, M. S., Carpenter, J. F., & Lengsfeld, C. S. (2015). Do Not Drop: Mechanical Shock in Vials Causes Cavitation, Protein Aggregation, and Particle Formation. Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences, 104(2), 602–611. https://doi.org/10.1002/jps.24259

Telikepalli, S., Kumru, O. S., Kim, J. H., Joshi, S. B., O'berry, K. B., Blake-Haskins, A. W., Perkins, M. D., Russell Middaugh, C., & Volkin, D. B. (2015). Characterization of the Physical Stability of a Lyophilized IgG1 mAb after Accelerated Shipping-Like Stress. Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences, 104(2), 495–507. https://doi.org/10.1002/jps.24242

Zapadka, K. L., Becher, F. J., Gomes dos Santos, A. L., & Jackson, S. E. (2017). Factors affecting the physical stability (aggregation) of peptide therapeutics. Interface Focus, 7(6), 20170030. https://doi.org/10.1098/rsfs.2017.0030

Thanks, and no offense, but I'm not reading all that.

 

[DrPEPr]

Thanks, and no offense, but I'm not reading all that.

No offence taken.

And no need to read them too. Just put them in your favorite LLM (e.g. NotebookLM/Gemini) and question the papers.

 

[endlrls]

Rabbit Hole research turns into one Hell of a Rat Race at times!
Jumping from hole to hole getting deeper inside, it's awesome that we can get into such research and so much info powered by AI , Science, the Mind and all started on these Fat Bodies we once made us feel inadequate, now we have trimmed up, found friends and groups of people with our same interest who love becoming a scientist in our studies and journeys! it's pretty darn cool I got to say!!

Agreed! I have many "conversations with George" (what I call google AI) about hypotheticals.....as well as conversations and discussions with my sister (on Tirz and Reta) and what we find out and share. A support group I think is ideal (like this group as well).
What a time to be alive! 🥰😍 (pardon the cheesy quote).

 

[harradm]

I am pinning 500mcg CJC with 500mcg DSIP at night (and getting incredible sleep). I am also pinning 500mcg MotsC, and 500mcg KPV in the morning (for inflamation and energy) plus 400mcg TB500 in the morning as well.
My doses are low because I am a hyper responder.
I stopped Kisspeptin because I didn't feel it did much. I also have a freezer full of other peps I plan to cycle (GHK-Cu, BPC, 5amino, SS31).
I stack them in the same syringe but some you cannot (GLPs you have to pin alone).
I attached a document that explains stacking and mixing of peps do's and don'ts. Take a look at it - it's a good read.

A lot of good info there! Thanks for sharing.

 

[Kadeeglp123]

That was what I was gonna say, it was on the tip of my tongue

Agreed! I have many "conversations with George" (what I call google AI) about hypotheticals.....as well as conversations and discussions with my sister (on Tirz and Reta) and what we find out and share. A support group I think is ideal (like this group as well).
What a time to be alive! 🥰😍 (pardon the cheesy quote).

 

[Kadeeglp123]

Ii so have enjoy this thread, it's been so great to get the info, even if they don't want to educate themselves after saying unless otherwise proven! It's right there but too much information to read? Over the head with words, lol I appreciated the info!