paypal just took me for $400

Lullabytreehugger said:
So here I thought paying a vendor with paypal would be the safer option (standard USD $ payment - non crypto) because in the event the vendor decides to scam you then you can open a dispute and get a refund?
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Nope. It is the rare vendor who would allow you to do PP/G&S. So far, I have used it only once with one vendor. No, I won't reveal the name, I don't want that option to disappear. If vendors allow PP at all, it's always F/F and you shouldn't opt in for buyer protection - red flags everywhere. You just have to choose your vendor wisely and hope it all works out. It has all worked out so far for me - no issues with being scammed - but use vendors that have been vetted, that lots of people use. No need to go find that one vendor no one has heard of.
 
MingHenry said:
Nope. It is the rare vendor who would allow you to do PP/G&S. So far, I have used it only once with one vendor. No, I won't reveal the name, I don't want that option to disappear. If vendors allow PP at all, it's always F/F and you shouldn't opt in for buyer protection - red flags everywhere. You just have to choose your vendor wisely and hope it all works out. It has all worked out so far for me - no issues with being scammed - but use vendors that have been vetted, that lots of people use. No need to go find that one vendor no one has heard of.
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The issue with bitcoin is once you send the coin amount; thats it if something goes wrong with the vendor you cant even dispute the transaction. Your is gone!
 
MingHenry said:
Nope. It is the rare vendor who would allow you to do PP/G&S. So far, I have used it only once with one vendor. No, I won't reveal the name, I don't want that option to disappear. If vendors allow PP at all, it's always F/F and you shouldn't opt in for buyer protection - red flags everywhere. You just have to choose your vendor wisely and hope it all works out. It has all worked out so far for me - no issues with being scammed - but use vendors that have been vetted, that lots of people use. No need to go find that one vendor no one has heard of.
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There are at least two vendors which allow PP G&S, but both of them lost a different item on PayPal invoice. So the chargeback feature doesn't really help. But both vendors delivered as promised.
 
Lullabytreehugger said:
So here I thought paying a vendor with paypal would be the safer option (standard USD $ payment - non crypto) because in the event the vendor decides to scam you then you can open a dispute and get a refund?
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Your only protection here is the community. Don't be one of the first 1000 people to buy from a vendor and your risk of getting outright scammed are almost zero.
 
stickfigure said:
There are at least two vendors which allow PP G&S, but both of them lost a different item on PayPal invoice. So the chargeback feature doesn't really help. But both vendors delivered as promised.
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Even if they listed peptides instead of, uh, cat litter, I'm not sure disputing it would be a safe thing to do for your paypal account. They're not controlled substances but I'm not sure that buying research chemicals from China is allowed in the paypal AUP, heh.
 
Superfluous said:
You have a particularly bad experience or picked up general negative vibes? (some of which I've already read)

Their prices are certainly tempting...
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Considering they are currently indicted by the US Justice Department for narcotics trafficking.... Just me personally, I wouldn't want to order from a vendor that has a target on their back courtesy of the US Government.
 
Hopefully not free surprise opioids in vials. It's one thing to inject reta instead of tirz. Injecting a mislabeled synthetic opioid is completely different risk.
 
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