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QSC - Don't call it a comeback

exploitedworkerbee said:
there is an exit scam coming for sure. At this point I’d need 6 months’ track record to go ahead with a qsc buy, and even then it would need to be a phenomenal deal and I would keep quantities small.
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I'm not going to "predict" an exit scam. However, I'm skeptical of the person who is impersonating Tracy.
 
keangkong said:
I'm not going to "predict" an exit scam. However, I'm skeptical of the person who is impersonating Tracy.
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I've decided to try bpc 157 maybe I'll take a chance on TrAIcy for the benefit of the forum
 
indolent said:
Call it a comeback:

Great new Tracy interview today--the-tracy-comeback--at K-Hole Unloaded.
Pull quote: "Eat dog shit"
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I'll save everyone the pain of going to that bizarre narcissist's server. I haven't read this yet, but here you have it: https://pastebin.com/LAcTSpEr

edit: ok, i've read it, it's dumb. enjoy.
 
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exploitedworkerbee said:
I'll save everyone the pain of going to that bizarre narcissist's server. I haven't read this yet, but here you have it: https://pastebin.com/LAcTSpEr

edit: ok, i've read it, it's dumb. enjoy.
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Can't believe I just read that. Thanks for sparing me from having to go to her weird little corner of the internet though...
 
HoopFan said:
Dumb doesn’t begin to describe this. Holy hell, glad I decided to not even bother with that vendor!View attachment 8917
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I've bought from QSC in the past and it was fine. I'm still using their T30 from last Labor Day. But..... you won't catch me buying from this current incarnation of QSC. Maybe if they start getting new stock and attempt to make right with everyone who's owed product. Maybe....... Luckily I don't need any peps so I'm on the sidelines for this and all the other vendor drama happening at the moment.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
I'll save everyone the pain of going to that bizarre narcissist's server. I haven't read this yet, but here you have it: https://pastebin.com/LAcTSpEr

edit: ok, i've read it, it's dumb. enjoy.
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Tracy made it clear that people who were burned won't be reimbursed quickly. My belief is that they'll never be paid at all. Previously, Tracy had described paying people back as being something that he'd do in order to maintain his reputation. Now he says the decision is made by the head of QSC

Tracy: "The decision of compensating buyers is made by company boss, no one will get any compensation from end 2024 until the brand is fully running, including production, international shipping, and this will also can be possible only when the case is closed, if the company decided to start compensations now we will be bankrupt, the priority is the suppliers, the logistics compagnies, the machinery purchase, so I rather get the hate now."
 
keangkong said:
Tracy made it clear that people who were burned won't be reimbursed quickly. My belief is that they'll never be paid at all. Previously, Tracy had described paying people back as being something that he'd do in order to maintain his reputation. Now he says the decision is made by the head of QSC

Tracy: "The decision of compensating buyers is made by company boss, no one will get any compensation from end 2024 until the brand is fully running, including production, international shipping, and this will also can be possible only when the case is closed, if the company decided to start compensations now we will be bankrupt, the priority is the suppliers, the logistics compagnies, the machinery purchase, so I rather get the hate now."
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I think "when the case is closed" is the takeaway here. A divorce in India was recently finalized after being filed 59 years ago.
 
Has anyone here actually ordered from New Tracy?
I'm ready to go on bpc but I haven't seen anyone say that actually ordered and received a kit

Anybody
 
clayd said:
Has anyone here actually ordered from New Tracy?
I'm ready to go on bpc but I haven't seen anyone say that actually ordered and received a kit

Anybody
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I have ordered three times and gotten two packages. My third is supposed to be delivered Monday. It's all been packed and labeled like it was when they were shut down.
 
clayd said:
Has anyone here actually ordered from New Tracy?
I'm ready to go on bpc but I haven't seen anyone say that actually ordered and received a kit

Anybody
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There are plenty of folks on Meso who have ordered stuff from Tracy since his comeback and received it. And a few who have not. Since I am not willing to purchase from Tracy until I'm made whole for my January order, I did not carefully read the posts criticizing him for not delivering stuff recently.
 
"Tracy's" prices aren't even super competitive right now. I just don't see the draw for his current pep offerings. Raws and oils, yeah I get it given the current situation. But buying year old peps at meh prices from QSC just isn't calling to me. And that's not even factoring in the fact that a bunch of people are currently in ripped off status, and there's a huge risk of some kind of exit scam. No thanks
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
I'll save everyone the pain of going to that bizarre narcissist's server. I haven't read this yet, but here you have it: https://pastebin.com/LAcTSpEr

edit: ok, i've read it, it's dumb. enjoy.
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I found this part interesting....

  1. Is QSC a manufacturer of raws, a lyophiliser or a reseller?
  2. 💬 QSC do not manufacter raws, no one do actually, the manufacters do not have direct access with western buyers, we do resell raws, we only manufacter the HGH and IGF LR3 powders, and we do all the brewing for steroid oils and pressing tablets, and we lyophilise the peptides after purchasing the raws for the factories.

Does this mean the market is even more fragile than I previously thought? Is there only one raws manufacturer? And SRY, QSC, are.... and ahem, Nexaph the only ones that lyo? Maybe a few other lyophilizers. But Tuk, SSA, GYC, and all those single female named sellers are just reselling from the same source.
 
brentm said:
Does this mean the market is even more fragile than I previously thought? Is there only one raws manufacturer?
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As I understand the market, it is much like a pyramid. The limited number of manufacturers are at the top of the pyramid, next level below is a larger group of finishers, an even larger group of vendors on the next level down, and then the large customer base on the level below.

The mfgrs don’t communicate with the vendors or customers. The finishers don’t communicate with the customers. GB operators would be considered vendors.

How do you understand the market?
 
PopTart said:
As I understand the market, it is much like a pyramid. The limited number of manufacturers are at the top of the pyramid, next level below is a larger group of finishers, an even larger group of vendors on the next level down, and then the large customer base on the level below.

The mfgrs don’t communicate with the vendors or customers. The finishers don’t communicate with the customers. GB operators would be considered vendors.

How do you understand the market?
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My understanding is there is an extremely small group of manufacturers of unlyophilized peptides. Janoshik stated: "I'm convinced that there are no more than 2 manufacturers of Retatrutide raws. I've actually dug quite deep into that one." He said that while he hasn't researched the number to tirzepatide raw manufacturers, he believes that number also to be small.

Both QSC and Uther claim that they lyophilize peptides. Whether they do or not is another question.

As a practical matter, you should assume that you're buying from a reseller. Buying from a reseller is not necessarily a bad deal. The manufacturers of raws will not deal with ordinary buyers.

While I suspect Tracy knows much about peptides are produced in China, I don't trust him.
 
brentm said:
I found this part interesting....

  1. Is QSC a manufacturer of raws, a lyophiliser or a reseller?
  2. 💬 QSC do not manufacter raws, no one do actually, the manufacters do not have direct access with western buyers, we do resell raws, we only manufacter the HGH and IGF LR3 powders, and we do all the brewing for steroid oils and pressing tablets, and we lyophilise the peptides after purchasing the raws for the factories.

Does this mean the market is even more fragile than I previously thought? Is there only one raws manufacturer? And SRY, QSC, are.... and ahem, Nexaph the only ones that lyo? Maybe a few other lyophilizers. But Tuk, SSA, GYC, and all those single female named sellers are just reselling from the same source.
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I vaguely remember jano saying based on their test results across the spectrum he feels there are 3-4 manufacturers
 
Ok I ordered a single kit of bpc from New Tracy. Got a tracking number in Chino CA 24 hours later. Still just a label, package not handed over yet but seems like it will be
 
keangkong said:
My understanding is there is an extremely small group of manufacturers of unlyophilized peptides. Janoshik stated: "I'm convinced that there are no more than 2 manufacturers of Retatrutide raws. I've actually dug quite deep into that one." He said that while he hasn't researched the number to tirzepatide raw manufacturers, he believes that number also to be small.

Both QSC and Uther claim that they lyophilize peptides. Whether they do or not is another question.

As a practical matter, you should assume that you're buying from a reseller. Buying from a reseller is not necessarily a bad deal. The manufacturers of raws will not deal with ordinary buyers.

While I suspect Tracy knows much about peptides are produced in China, I don't trust him.
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^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^
 
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