Reta + KLOW? Asking questions, needing answers.

[Shromo]

For whatever reason, CJC is not trending compared to tesa. And, of course, HGH is way more than tesa with the bros.

I see. I wouldn't be opposed to HGH or Tesa, and would probably prefer HGH, but the matter of fact is, I don't know where to get something of that caliber. I know Tesa is easy to find, but HGH seems a bit harder.

Also, with Tesa, combining it with Reta, what does that usually look like?

 

[Calm Logic]

Pretty much all the China vendors like SRY and SSA have HGH, including at some US warehouses.

 

[Shromo]

Pretty much all the China vendors like SRY and SSY have HGH, including at some US warehouses.

Well I'll be damned. Gonna have to look into that then. You said you've done it right? What's yout anecdotal experience/recommendations/advice?

 

[Calm Logic]

I am still a newbie in the bro department (AAS and HGH), especially compared to @Airborne Daddy, @hexagonal, @AndyPanda, etc.

Since I have Achilles tendonitis, that was my major reason to start HGH a few weeks ago. Is it helping? Maybe, but my symptoms come and go anyway, and HGH is a longer-term thing. I also have BPC-157 and TB-500 to try for tendonitis and recovery.

From what I have read, HGH is more like the icing on the cake for muscle growth compared to AAS, but they do work synergistically. So it's a slippery slope into AAS use, to be honest, but I like AAS 🙂

Regarding fat burning:

Thoughts on tesa?

Is Tesa worth the cost? Usually I’ll get a couple vials of something and try it out, before committing to a kit, but it seems like Tesa takes a while to get results. Is it worth getting kit?

glp1forum.com

 

[Shromo]

I am still a newbie in the bro department (AAS and HGH), especially compared to @Airborne Daddy, @hexagonal, @AndyPanda, etc.

Since I have Achilles tendonitis, that was my major reason to start HGH a few weeks ago. Is it helping? Maybe, but my symptoms come and go anyway. I also have BPC-157 and TB-500 to try for tendonitis and recovery.

From what I have read, HGH is more like the icing on the cake for muscle growth compared to AAS, but they do work synergistically. So it's a slippery slope into AAS use, to be honest, but I like AAS 🙂

Regarding fat burning:

Thoughts on tesa?

Is Tesa worth the cost? Usually I’ll get a couple vials of something and try it out, before committing to a kit, but it seems like Tesa takes a while to get results. Is it worth getting kit?

glp1forum.com

Gotcha. I'm gonna look into ordering some HGH and hope to hear back from some of the more experienced lads on here about it. Thanks a lot my man.

 

[Calm Logic]

One of my favorite posts by @hexagonal:

Individual response to HGH varies pretty wildly, and estrogen levels can impact it (more estrogen, more response, to a certain point)

4IU is enough to put me right above 500 IGF-1, which is more than you would need for fat loss/recomp type purposes, but 3-4 IU are pretty common amounts for people to settle on. Start a little low, titrate up after a couple of weeks. People tend to get swelling, edema, carpal tunnel, etc., if they go too high too fast.

I'm happy I respond well to HGH, since I respond like jack shit to testosterone itself. All the way up to 250mg/w now and still in reference range, lol.

One thing to keep in mind with both tesa/ip and regular HGH is that you will put on some additional water weight when you start, and potentially again as you go up in dosage, so the scale might move up instead of down as your body gets used to it.

There is also more info at the Meso forum, including articles there. Their article on HGH says 2-4 IU is a typical daily dose for a bodybuilder on steroids.

 

[Shromo]

One of my favorite posts by @hexagonal:



There is also more info at the Meso forum, including articles there.

Awesome - you've been a big help thus far. Thanks a lot dude.

 

[Shromo]

Doing some reading and shit, Anavar doesn't seem like a terrible option. Just gotta find out the risk vs reward ratio, lmao.

 

[narrow11]

I’m wondering about the dosage for Klow and Glow. I’ve been dealing with tight thighs after intense physical work, along with tension in other muscles. I previously tried GHK, but injecting it was a nightmare, and I might have overdone it with a 1 mg dose. Can Klow or Glow be injected directly into the muscle where I’m feeling tense and have issues?

 

[MsGizmo]

I’m wondering about the dosage for Klow and Glow. I’ve been dealing with tight thighs after intense physical work, along with tension in other muscles. I previously tried GHK, but injecting it was a nightmare, and I might have overdone it with a 1 mg dose. Can Klow or Glow be injected directly into the muscle where I’m feeling tense and have issues?

KLOW 80 vial mixed with 3mL BAC
Take 2.75mg daily until the entire vial is gone, then take a break for a few weeks.
10 units
Just ignore overfill.

I wouldn't inject into the muscle personally, but getting the injection as close to the injury site couldn't hurt

 

[narrow11]

Thanks for clarifying. I’ve been injecting BPC-157 directly into the muscle over the last few days, and the sharp pain and stiffness are gone. I’m working again tomorrow at my heavy lifting job, so I’ll report back on how it goes, but it’s definitely interesting for me.

 

[Such1943]

My KLOW protocol is to basically max out GHK-Cu at 3mg a day. Per the peptide calc I enter the GHK-Cu 3mg , strength 50, 3ml BAC. This gives me: 3 mg of GHK-Cu, 600 mcg of BPC-157, 600 mcg of TB-500, 600 mcg of KPV per 18 units. Helps keeps body lubed and hopefully repairing 45 years of abuse.

Also on Reta, SS-31, NAD+, Mots-c, TRT, and adding HGH 2UI next week.

When researching HGH vs Tesa/IPA it seemed like HGH works best for older guys as our natural production has fizzled out. Where Tesa(or JCJ)/IPA works best for younger guys getting there system kicked back on. (I see Airborn Daddy on the Metso forums, wild place. He would know best if I'm wrong. Hate to spread misinformation)

Been doing cardio daily for 40 min for a month or so, but just started 4 day upper/lower Monday after 15+ years off. Of course I went a little heavy and paying for it now. This week is a major test of recovery for me. Still have energy for cardio so that's a positive.