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At 310 lbs I started super low and slow at .5 mg for two weeks before moving up. Oct 4 310 lbs and december 17th 280lbs at 5 mgMaybe you won't respond until the higher doses 8-12 mg. Increase your dose, but not too fast.
It's not that uncommon to not respond to the lower doses. You are not at non-responder on the lower dose 4 mg.
Also consider if something else is going on, - did you have a full blood test panel before you started ? It's a good idea to have a baseline. If you have some metabolic issues, the drugs often need to be in higher doses to loose weight. You are only on 4 mg now. The medicine needs time to work.
And you don't say how much you need to loose, how high are you and what weight ?
nice post …Therapeutic levels are commonly described at a steady state of 6-8mg/week dosing for ~4-5 weeks. It doesn't take a month to get a concentration level commiserate with the average exposure of 6-8mg/week dosing, which is 7.4mg-9.9mg. It can take time for the body to adjust to the signaling, even if the average exposure is reached more quickly through different dosing schedules.
The 4-5 weeks is because our current exposure is culmination of your current dose, plus the doses taken over the last ~24-30 days (Reta has a 6 day half life, 4-5 half lives until it's eliminated).
1mg is .5mg in 6 days.
.5mg is .25mg in 6 days
.25mg is .125mg in 6 days
.125mg is .0625 in 6 days
.0625mg is .03125mg in 6 days <<< eliminated
Simplified math explanation, assuming instant absorption and a 6 day dose schedule.
Day 0: 1mg
Day 6: .5mg (Day 0) + 1mg (Day 6)= 1.5mg cumulative.
Day 12: .13mg (Day 0) + .5 (Day 6) + 1mg= 1.63mg
Day 18: .06mg (0) + .25mg (6) + .5mg (12) +1mg= 1.81mg
Day 24: .03mg (0) + .13mg (6) + .25mg (12) + .5mg (18)+1mg= 1.91mg
Day 30: .0 (0) + .03mg (6) + .13mg (12) + .25mg (18) + .5mg (24) +1mg= 1.91mg <<<steady state peak
Sema and tirz's main strength being appetite suppression or control resulting in calorie reduction. Reta's unique strength is glucagon signaling, which increases base metabolic maybe around 10% while still offering appetite control resulting in less calorie input. That's presumptively why the GLP and GIP signaling is reduced per mg exposure compared to Sema or Tirz ( Reta has maybe 1/10th the GLP expression of Sema) so the dosage can be high enough to meaningfully utilize the glucagon signaling to have the metabolic rate bump without overdoing the GLP/GIP signaling.
The half lives are shown here by the long gradual tails after the peaks (doses). Their cumulative stacking affect is shown by the 5.7mg current level when my 9 shots have only been 1-2.5mg each.
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Half life is important to understand and this shows it clearly.
I personally started at 308lbs and starting dose of .5mg. Clear results from the start.. December 17th 280lbs at 5mg.
Not perfect experience though…i popped 10 lbs over Christmas and flatlined loss for about a month.
Three things happened that I can point to.
-Christmas I cheated for a week (I assume that was the weight gain)
-ipamorelin started dec 23
-Reta supplier changed dec 23
Now Jan 23 sitting at 283 and at 8 mg for second week straight.
I get the weight gain but that resulting “stall” still has me a little puzzled
Thanks for your info