SS-31 + MOTs-C vs NAD+

[Gohengrin]

They're synergistic. Prime with SS-31 to repair mitochondria and then stack MOTS-C and NAD+.

I did that protocol, but felt absolute no energy from it. Tired as always.

 

[Jellybelly54]

IM is usually my go-to to avoid ISRs. Worked great for me with glutathione from China (and some testosterone in a cheap oil). Diluting the glutathione with more BAC helped a lot too. But haven't tried MOTS yet.

Should I be nervous about going IM on something that causes this much ISR?

 

[CNCCurrency]

Wondering how many running MOTS have skin reactions? After about the 3 rd shot I’ve developed significant injection site reactions. Almost like a Brute Enforcer Emeritus sting with raised, extremely itching , red bump that stays for days. I guess from what i have read that this is common. I don’t know if I can keep running this with these reactions. I had the same thing happen with KLOW . Wondering if I have a significant IgE allergy tendency ? Maybe I’ll try some steroid cream and benedryl topical at the injection site next time. I’m afraid to go IM and have an anaphylactic reaction? I’ve switched BAC water and I’m filtering the pep and maintaining aseptic technique for reconstitution btw.

I do, goes away after a few days. I do it on my thighs now and it's not as bad.

 

[Calm Logic]

Should I be nervous about going IM on something that causes this much ISR?

Do you have an extra vial or a larger vial to dilute this stuff? Usually IM can handle larger volumes like even 2+ mL, so you can dilute like crazy if you want.

Another option is to just try a smaller amount of your current concentration by IM, to be more careful, to compensate for not diluting further.

And I don't know about pH and all that with MOTS. So pH testing may be another option.

 

[Jellybelly54]

Do you have an extra vial or a larger vial to dilute this stuff? Usually IM can handle larger volumes like even 2+ mL, so you can dilute like crazy if you want.

Another option is to just try a smaller amount of your current concentration by IM, to be more careful, to compensate for not diluting further.

And I don't know about pH and all that with MOTS. So pH testing may be another option.

I could try diluting and IM I guess. Wondering if I should have an epi pen on standby though? Maybe next I’ll do a benedryl, Zyrtec, topical roid and Benadryl topical before injection. These injection sites itch SO BAD! Ugg

 

[Calm Logic]

If it is that bad, I would just resell it on B/S/T, haha.

But not a bad idea with oral Benadryl. I don't know about the creams before injection.

 

[gantou]

Wondering how many running MOTS have skin reactions? After about the 3 rd shot I’ve developed significant injection site reactions. Almost like a Brute Enforcer Emeritus sting with raised, extremely itching , red bump that stays for days. I guess from what i have read that this is common. I don’t know if I can keep running this with these reactions. I had the same thing happen with KLOW . Wondering if I have a significant IgE allergy tendency ? Maybe I’ll try some steroid cream and benedryl topical at the injection site next time. I’m afraid to go IM and have an anaphylactic reaction? I’ve switched BAC water and I’m filtering the pep and maintaining aseptic technique for reconstitution btw.

Mots isn't too bad for me. How much bac did you use to reconstitute? Sometimes diluting it more can help. I like to use 3ml of bac for Mots-C. For me NAD is the one in this stack that gets me, even if the PH is good I still get bruised when I inject it.

 

[Jellybelly54]

Mots isn't too bad for me. How much bac did you use to reconstitute? Sometimes diluting it more can help. I like to use 3ml of bac for Mots-C. For me NAD is the one in this stack that gets me, even if the PH is good I still get bruised when I inject it.

Only used 2mL and injected 2.5mg so a really big dose. Maybe I will decrease the dose, dilute, pretreat and cross my fingers

 

[Cdub100]

The burn mean it's working 😛

 

[Twowheelr2]

How often can you run the SS31/MOTS-C/NAD cycle? Do you need to take the SS31 again on subsequent cycles?

I'm waiting on some deliveries and I'll be running my first cycle of this pretty soon. Definitely excited to try it out.

The protocol I’m following is a 14 week cycle.

I pin a lot of of peptides. I rotate all over my whole midsection.

i did begin a GLOW cycle while running the NAD+, SS-31, MOTSc protocol. 3rd pin today. First pin in my glute, 2nd & 3rd abdomen. Not too bad at all. Best was 1/2 pin in abdomen followed by vibe gun. I think my timing will work out to finish up about 25 daily 2mg GLOW doses before the MOTSc begins in the protocol.

 

[Such1943]

Week 6 in the books. I've got roughly 2 days of SS-31 remaining and plan to start Most-C for an overlap. The initial 6 weeks have been excellent. The recent discussions about PIP from Most-C sounds fun, I haven't experienced much PIP from anything I've tried so far. NAD+ 150mg, Mots-C 5mg M/W/F in the morning until all vials are gone.

The burn mean it's working 😛

 

[jmon1977]

Wondering how many running MOTS have skin reactions? After about the 3 rd shot I’ve developed significant injection site reactions. Almost like a Brute Enforcer Emeritus sting with raised, extremely itching , red bump that stays for days. I guess from what i have read that this is common. I don’t know if I can keep running this with these reactions. I had the same thing happen with KLOW . Wondering if I have a significant IgE allergy tendency ? Maybe I’ll try some steroid cream and benedryl topical at the injection site next time. I’m afraid to go IM and have an anaphylactic reaction? I’ve switched BAC water and I’m filtering the pep and maintaining aseptic technique for reconstitution btw.

This is fairly common. I get the same type of reaction with MOTS-C and KLOW/GLOW, but it isn't debilitating or anything. It doesn't seem to be anything to be concerned with other than the annoyance.