SS-31 + MOTs-C vs NAD+

[Desieldogg]

I'm looking to battle some fatigue, and I've read endlessly about SS-31/MOTs-C/NAD+, but I'm still having trouble deciding how I should proceed. Should I start with the SS/MOT protocol, then move to NAD+? After SS, do I stay on MOT forever?

 

[Loeve]

They're synergistic. Prime with SS-31 to repair mitochondria and then stack MOTS-C and NAD+.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I'm glad this protocol is getting super popular all at once; it'll be cool in four months when a whole bunch of us are either like "YOU GUYS I HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY SO HAPPY" together, or "DIDN'T DO SHIT FOR ME" all together.

 

[Loeve]

I'm glad this protocol is getting super popular all at once; it'll be cool in four months when a whole bunch of us are either like "YOU GUYS I HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY SO HAPPY" together, or "DIDN'T DO SHIT FOR ME" all together.

Did you make it or did it originate here? I just had the PDF shared with me.

 

[randompersonrandom]

Did you make it or did it originate here? I just had the PDF shared with me.

no, I don't know where it originated; only that it's been posted here a lot lately.

 

[Such1943]

I'm glad this protocol is getting super popular all at once; it'll be cool in four months when a whole bunch of us are either like "YOU GUYS I HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY SO HAPPY" together, or "DIDN'T DO SHIT FOR ME" all together.

I’m all for it. I’m starting the protocol most likely in December.

 

[Doug5421]

The protocol spinning around seems cool in theory, but imo, think the most benefit will come from indefinite NR/NMN supplementation w/ periodic cycles of SS-31 due to repair and upkeep. MOTS-C, possibly for performance enhancement. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Twowheelr2]

They're synergistic. Prime with SS-31 to repair mitochondria and then stack MOTS-C and NAD+.

This is a 14 Week protocol. Weeks 13 and 14 are the same as Week 12..MOTS-c and NADS+. The PDF has links to files and research documentation to explain the reasoning behind this schedule. I started it Firday.

 

[Twowheelr2]

View: https://youtu.be/MPMJLA38o8M?si=HqZrRzuXPIUedmsN

 

[PAPoots]

So what kind of feeling should I expect from NAD+. I'm in my 3rd week and have titrated up to 50mg and pin M,W, F first thing in the morning. This is v30 units when 500mg vial is reconstituted with 3ml. I also take 500mcg of Semax daily SubQ.

No feelings yet. I'm about 8 weeks away from kicking in the MOTS-c protocol. I'll also have finished a 20 day, 5mg in the evening Epitalon round in 3 more days.

The only thing that has happened is my sleep scores have dropped from the high 80s to 70s or lower.

Is this like a Tesa protocol where you gain water weight and lose visceral fat, and you don't see the results until sometime after the protocol is complete?

I was really hoping to feel a little more wakefulness in the am and having some better morning workouts.

 

[Chili777]

I've been on oral NR (300mg) for years and it's affect is subtle. It's not that I notice anything special when I'm taking it, it's that I do notice when I don't. If you got quality NAD, I would just trust that it's working. My 2 cents.

 

[Such1943]

I just started the protocol this week. I noticed some energy, hard to describe but I’ll call it clean, I guess. My coffee consumption was down from the Reta, but I did not even make a pot this week. My sleep app shows I fell asleep later and woke up earlier than usual Wed, Thurs and Fri. So far so good I would say. Placebo? I’ll report back next week. 45/M

	Monday	Tuesday	Wednesday	Thursday	Friday	Saturday	Sunday
Week 1 12/1	NAD+ 150mg SS-31 3mg	SS-31 3mg	NAD+ 150mg SS-31 3mg	SS-31 3mg	NAD+ 150mg SS-31 3mg	SS-31 3mg	SS-31 3mg

 

[badugib]

I want to start that 14 week protocol from that pdf file as well. Once my ss-31 and nad+ arrives. Has anyone followed that procedure? And what were your results?

 

[Jellybelly54]

Somewhere in there someone should work in 5A1MQ. Mix in that freaky orange stuff for added energy and increased NAD+ through the NNMT inhibition.

 

[PopTart]

I want to start that 14 week protocol from that pdf file as well. Once my ss-31 and nad+ arrives. Has anyone followed that procedure? And what were your results?

I’ve been doing the protocol for 6+ weeks - starting mots tomorrow. Going to pin mots on my gym days to see if it boosts performance. I don’t “feel” anything from NAD but that doesn’t mean that it’s not working. I get a huge energy and mental clarity boost from SS-31. I’m in my early 60s. I try to stick to OMAD most days to trigger mitophagy. It’s definitely a YMMV stack as some at my age experience a benefit while others don’t.