SS-31 + MOTs-C vs NAD+

[Desieldogg]

I'm looking to battle some fatigue, and I've read endlessly about SS-31/MOTs-C/NAD+, but I'm still having trouble deciding how I should proceed. Should I start with the SS/MOT protocol, then move to NAD+? After SS, do I stay on MOT forever?

 

[Loeve]

They're synergistic. Prime with SS-31 to repair mitochondria and then stack MOTS-C and NAD+.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I'm glad this protocol is getting super popular all at once; it'll be cool in four months when a whole bunch of us are either like "YOU GUYS I HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY SO HAPPY" together, or "DIDN'T DO SHIT FOR ME" all together.

 

[Loeve]

I'm glad this protocol is getting super popular all at once; it'll be cool in four months when a whole bunch of us are either like "YOU GUYS I HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY SO HAPPY" together, or "DIDN'T DO SHIT FOR ME" all together.

Did you make it or did it originate here? I just had the PDF shared with me.

 

[randompersonrandom]

Did you make it or did it originate here? I just had the PDF shared with me.

no, I don't know where it originated; only that it's been posted here a lot lately.

 

[Such1943]

I'm glad this protocol is getting super popular all at once; it'll be cool in four months when a whole bunch of us are either like "YOU GUYS I HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY SO HAPPY" together, or "DIDN'T DO SHIT FOR ME" all together.

I’m all for it. I’m starting the protocol most likely in December.

 

[Doug5421]

The protocol spinning around seems cool in theory, but imo, think the most benefit will come from indefinite NR/NMN supplementation w/ periodic cycles of SS-31 due to repair and upkeep. MOTS-C, possibly for performance enhancement. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Twowheelr2]

They're synergistic. Prime with SS-31 to repair mitochondria and then stack MOTS-C and NAD+.

This is a 14 Week protocol. Weeks 13 and 14 are the same as Week 12..MOTS-c and NADS+. The PDF has links to files and research documentation to explain the reasoning behind this schedule. I started it Firday.

 

[Twowheelr2]

View: https://youtu.be/MPMJLA38o8M?si=HqZrRzuXPIUedmsN

 

[PAPoots]

So what kind of feeling should I expect from NAD+. I'm in my 3rd week and have titrated up to 50mg and pin M,W, F first thing in the morning. This is v30 units when 500mg vial is reconstituted with 3ml. I also take 500mcg of Semax daily SubQ.

No feelings yet. I'm about 8 weeks away from kicking in the MOTS-c protocol. I'll also have finished a 20 day, 5mg in the evening Epitalon round in 3 more days.

The only thing that has happened is my sleep scores have dropped from the high 80s to 70s or lower.

Is this like a Tesa protocol where you gain water weight and lose visceral fat, and you don't see the results until sometime after the protocol is complete?

I was really hoping to feel a little more wakefulness in the am and having some better morning workouts.