Thoughts on testing vs not testing?

[markandfrank]

I’ve been ordering through Skye for over a year now and am about to transition to gray (unless Skye is considered gray??🤣). Joined a Telegram and a few Discord groups last night and after further studying: do you all typically test your vials even if reviews have been posted and look good? I know of the testing groups and how that process works. I guess maybe it’s a preference thing, but I’m looking for all opinions and feedback.

 

[Superfluous]

I'm a non tester (cough, freeloader) relying on the wisdom of the crowd to keep the suppliers honest. I do inject myself with a micro dose 1st from each new order though and wait 24 hours before I do a full dose, just in case I have a reaction to anything in there (as even the fillers might vary for all I know).

 

[DwightTheDelight]

Skye is grey as well. The few vials I've used were untested. I'd be lying if I said I felt all warm and fuzzy about it though.

 

[markandfrank]

I'm a non tester (cough, freeloader) relying on the wisdom of the crowd to keep the suppliers honest. I do inject myself with a micro dose 1st from each new order though and wait 24 hours before I do a full dose, just in case I have a reaction to anything in there (as even the fillers might vary for all I know).

That was my plan…the whole process of group testing just sounds a little tedious and I also don’t want to pay full price myself. I guess you really can’t have your cake and eat it too unfortunately 🙁 lol

 

[markandfrank]

Skye is grey as well. The few vials I've used were untested. I'd be lying if I said I felt all warm and fuzzy about it though.

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Lol cute pic. Have you tested before? It just seems like quite the process. Or maybe I’m thinking about it too much.

 

[DwightTheDelight]

Lol cute pic. Have you tested before? It just seems like quite the process. Or maybe I’m thinking about it too much.

No, I haven't directly tested anything.

 

[Superfluous]

If it makes you feel better just try to observe if there's any actual horror stories on here in terms of being deliberately defrauded or sold anything dangerous from any of the vendors before you pick one. Almost all the bad reports are from a supplier being an idiot (things being sent to wrong address, things missing, not labeling boxes correctly) rather than being malicious. If you only order a single common drug such as Tirz from a known vendor the risk is likely much less - if you start ordering a selection box of niche peptides (which much less testing and turnover than Tirz) from a new vendor then yeah there's a bigger chance you get something not right.

 

[beefsteak]

I wait until other people get angry then get angry myself. It usually the most affordable method.

 

[Int96]

Skye is definitely grey and insanely overpriced.

 

[markandfrank]

I wait until other people get angry then get angry myself. It usually the most affordable method.

Mob mentality!!!

 

[markandfrank]

Skye is definitely grey and insanely overpriced.

I’m so over their prices. It was safe and reliable but need something cheaper.

 

[mopo89]

It's hard to find an option for testing in Canada that isn't ridiculously expensive, so I haven't personally sent a vial of anything in. I have given money towards testing though, just to share the cost burden.

 

[Int96]

I’m so over their prices. It was safe and reliable but need something cheaper.

Skye charges $2000 for a kit of T30 compared to SRY at $165. Lol!

 

[Vicki]

I've done group testing and have tested my own. For stuff that might have bad side effects with the wrong dose I always test before using it. For other peps, I'm comfortable with just using vendor tests if the dose ranges vary a lot.

Lately, I'm leaning more towards group buys with testing built in for most things now though. Its actually quite the hassle to get into group tests sometimes.

 

[nonyabizznez]

"I got my kit and sent a vial for testing and it tested bad. Told vendor and based on their 99% guarantee they shipped me a new kit"
The above is a quote from No One! Never seen it!

If one claims they're going through this with a vendor they rarely back it up with the actual test. They'll say it's their $, their test which usually reads as bullshit in context with their other posts. That being said I have no doubt there are people who hypothetically find out there's cyanide in their Tirz and feel no compulsion to inform other buyers. This is why I appreciate those in our community who post results (and would be happy to financially compensate).

 

[markandfrank]

"I got my kit and sent a vial for testing and it tested bad. Told vendor and based on their 99% guarantee they shipped me a new kit"
The above is a quote from No One! Never see it!

If one claims they're going through this with a vendor they rarely back it up with the actual test. They'll say it's their $, their test which usually reads as bullshit in context with their other posts. That being said I have no doubt there are people who hypothetically find out there's cyanide in their Tirz and feel no compulsion to inform other buyers. This is why I appreciate those in our community who post results (and would be happy to financially compensate).

And that’s why I’m torn on testing or not! I’m so scared I’d have fentanyl or cyanide in mine 🥴 I know that’s a stretch, but can’t say it’s never crossed my mind.

 

[GimmeABreak]

I have personally paid for private testing of Tirz vials from SRY and ASC (and posted the COA's here) and been involved in group buy testing where I a always volunteer to to be a vial donor on group tests. When you are vial donor you are then 100% certain that your batch has been tested. I also pay for testing of a variety of peps (many that I don't even own) on a popular group test server. This isn't to say that I test everything. I have pinned plenty of vials without testing first.

Anything I am putting into long-term storage I want to make sure has a good test. This can be either me paying the $300 myself, group test or third party test that I know is from the same batch (PGB or others). I may also test again when I pull the vials out of storage if they have been stored for a >1 year. I bought most of my hoard in October so I have some time to make this decision.

Peptide Test is in the process of setting up a group test system where one person sets up the test and then participants log into PT to pay their share, vial donors send their vials directly to PT. The results are shared back to the group. I think this is a great idea, 3-4 people can choose to create their own private group test very easily and it reduces your test cost to $100 or less (depending on the number or people and number of vials). I think the test cost is like $300 plus $100 for each additional vial from the same batch.

 

[GimmeABreak]

And that’s why I’m torn on testing or not! I’m so scared I’d have fentanyl or cyanide in mine 🥴 I know that’s a stretch, but can’t say it’s never crossed my mind.

You don't have fent or cyanide in your vial you have a much greater chance of having sema, when you ordered Tirz or Reta.

Sending a vial off for testing will tell you if you have the pep that you bought, the mass (how much of the pep) and the purity (how much of the pep is in good condition) thats it.

It won't tell you if there is fent, cyanide or boogers in it unless you pay for a much more expensive analysis (several thousand dollars) and provide several vials for this testing.

 

[markandfrank]

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I have personally paid for private testing of Tirz vials from SRY and ASC (and posted the COA's here) and been involved in group buy testing where I a always volunteer to to be a vial donor on group tests. When you are vial donor you are then 100% certain that your batch has been tested. I also pay for testing of a variety of peps (many that I don't even own) on a popular group test server. This isn't to say that I test everything. I have pinned plenty of vials without testing first.

Anything I am putting into long-term storage I want to make sure has a good test. This can be either me paying the $300 myself, group test or third party test that I know is from the same batch (PGB or others). I may also test again when I pull the vials out of storage if they have been stored for a >1 year. I bought most of my hoard in October so I have some time to make this decision.

Peptide Test is in the process of setting up a group test system where one person sets up the test and then participants log into PT to pay their share, vial donors send their vials directly to PT. The results are shared back to the group. I think this is a great idea, 3-4 people can choose to create their own private group test very easily and it reduces your test cost to $100 or less (depending on the number or people and number of vials). I think the test cost is like $300 plus $100 for each additional vial from the same batch.

wow - I didn’t know Peptide Test was working on that. That would definitely make things easier, and I’m sure many more people would test with a system like that. Thanks for sharing!

 

[FreeSpectator8]

There are many good GB groups available if you look around, most of them make it pretty painless other than normal CN vendor issues. Peptidechat is a great resource for finding these places

Additionally you can find B/S/T groups where people sell extra kits and vials from GB's so you dont have to wait for testing and shipping if you are ok with a slight premium.

 

[GimmeABreak]

There are many good GB groups available if you look around, most of them make it pretty painless other than normal CN vendor issues. Peptidechat is a great resource for finding these places

Additionally you can find B/S/T groups where people sell extra kits and vials from GB's so you dont have to wait for testing and shipping if you are ok with a slight premium.

The only thing I don't like about GB's is it can take a long time (1-3 months) to complete the ordering, receiving and 3rd party testing process. I typically steer clear of them now because this, but I am sure I will jump back in for the right pep/deal.

 

[FreeSpectator8]

The only thing I don't like about GB's is it can take a long time (1-3 months) to complete the ordering, receiving and 3rd party testing process. I typically steer clear of them now because this, but I am sure I will jump back in for the right pep/deal.

Yeah for sure, thats why I recommend the B/S/T groups to get around that. You can find decent people selling tested peps for decent prices, but you gotta go with known members and be careful of scammers.

 

[jas0441]

If your pep it not giving you 'good feels' then how will you know if it's YOU or the PEP, unless you have an independent test result that you have confidence in? I don't buy anything anymore that I cannot get a test report through a group test. The cost is usually $20-$30 and well worth the peace of mind.

 

[geoguy78]

And that’s why I’m torn on testing or not! I’m so scared I’d have fentanyl or cyanide in mine 🥴 I know that’s a stretch, but can’t say it’s never crossed my mind.

They'd charge a lot extra for fentanyl. One vial probably holds enough for an entire city....

 

[FreeSpectator8]

your more likely to get nothing in your peptides than some random harmful substance

 

[beefsteak]

The only thing I don't like about GB's is it can take a long time (1-3 months) to complete the ordering, receiving and 3rd party testing process. I typically steer clear of them now because this, but I am sure I will jump back in for the right pep/deal.

Johnny 5 still waiting on their GB from early November. It's a T30 kit for $180. Mind you this was from BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

It's fucking insanity. IT'S GOING TO BE 4 MONTHS BEFORE IT REACHES ANYBODY. Imagine wasting 4 months of your life tracking this shit.

It's always ZYH as well. A bunch of other GBs are still waiting on their ZYH gb. And the crazy part is that Johnny put up 7 more group guys from ZYH that's active at this moment.

 

[FreeSpectator8]

Johnny 5 still waiting on their GB from early November. It's a T30 kit for $180. Mind you this was from BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

It's fucking insanity. IT'S GOING TO BE 4 MONTHS BEFORE IT REACHES ANYBODY. Imagine wasting 4 months of your life tracking this shit.

It's always ZYH as well. A bunch of other GBs are still waiting on their ZYH gb. And the crazy part is that Johnny put up 7 more group guys from ZYH that's active at this moment.

yeah some of these GB's pick the most random vendors it feels like.

 

[Windingroads06]

Harm reduction or safety.

As a Healthcare professional when I administer medications, no matter what the route of administration, I assume the pharmacy has some kind of third party testing to ensure quality, purity and sterility. For Patient Safety.

As a purchaser of gray market peptides for personal use, I can not trust or rely on anyone to take care of me. I have to take care of myself.

When I realized I couldn't rely on my insurance to cover the cost of glp meds a couple years ago, I decided to take matters into my own hands and do what I had to to become not obese.

I went down the rabbit hole and discovered other things along the way.

Tracy et. al. have pushed gray glp drug prices so low that it is affordable to purchase the med and DO the testing. Jano is about $300 for glps. If your dose is 10mg/week and you spend $250 for a Tirz 40mg kit +$300 for testing your total cost for a 9 month supply is about $600 total. Considering that branded meds can be about 1K a month or higher, this is a fantastic deal!

If you don't do your homework on the sources and you don't do the testing, you are a LAZY IDIOT.

And you are probably a "glpKaren Fishsteak"

 

[zpped]

"I got my kit and sent a vial for testing and it tested bad. Told vendor and based on their 99% guarantee they shipped me a new kit"
The above is a quote from No One! Never seen it!

You obviously not paying attention then.

 

[nonyabizznez]

If you don't do your homework on the sources and you don't do the testing, you are a LAZY IDIOT.

And you are probably a "glpKaren Fishsteak"

Had me up until the end.

You're testing one vial out of 10 or more and absorbing the total cost. That's 10% assurance on a vial you're not getting back. You would assume all vials come off the same "run". Now amplify that run to a large group of recipients. Your 1 in 10 now becomes 1 in maybe 1000. If you accept that your remaining 9 vials are identical to the tested one then it would translate the 997 remaining vials also represent the tested usually few. So your $300 testing on a $50 Sema kit is now $3.

Looks like I'm making an argument for group buys. Maybe I am now that I've got enough stash to anticipate needs months in advance (years🤣). I'm happy to help finance tests for those submitting from my assumed "run" and I'm a sucker for matching crimp/lid colors. I know certain vendors and buyers say lid colors don't matter but I'm sure we all look for them in test reports. I also factor in testing results posted by our kind forum members in purchasing decisions even if I'm paying a bit more for piece of mind.