Tirzhelp telegram nuked.

[Inigomntya]

This is the wrong thread for this comment.

Just kidding 😁

Seriously screwed up my face for a minute 😆

 

[Inigomntya]

Agree 100%. It's Lilly's attorneys that did it and it's all driven by corporate greed.

Lilly's CEO has openly lied about grey market tirz claiming their testing showed poor purity and viruses, etc. There are hundreds of tests disproving that.

*GASP* they lied?! 😲

 

[penewbie]

I see someone else who's thin skinned, but that's ok

"no u"

 

[GtownBrown]

Not really... That place is heavily moderated and free speech, especially if it goes against the hive mind, is very discouraged. I've never seen a place just indiscriminately delete so many comments. People have been banned just for not taking their discussion to a different channel. I think the word "deplorable" is doing a lot of work in that statement. 🤷‍♀️

Elon, is that you?

 

[Kinsip]

My impression is that it was pretty hard to get banned from that group. It's like the glp1forum: You have to work very hard to get banned.

They’ve banned any mention of SNP and associated users as of today for unknown reasons. Suss.

 

[penewbie]

They’ve banned any mention of SNP and associated users as of today for unknown reasons. Suss.

I don't see any banning of SNP mentions?

But if it did, it might have to do with SNP users openly discussing doxxing tirzhelp mods, which have gotten so bad that Cain had to make an announcement, after already blew up of course.

lol pep of our lives, so toxic and petty.

Also, first ever post by commenter is drama? Suss.

​

 

[Kinsip]

I don't see any banning of SNP mentions?

But if it did, it might have to do with SNP users openly discussing doxxing tirzhelp mods, which have gotten so bad that cain had to make an announcement.

lol pep of our lives, so toxic and petty.

Also, first ever post by commenter is drama? Suss.

​

They removed SNP from the vendor list without announcement and banned a ton of people. There’s discussion about on the SNP TG.

Urgh yeah it is just kinda drama but it just made me kinda disappointed because i thought it was a place for info and informed decision making.

No one really seems to have any idea about the doxxing. It was on a pen vendor TG?

 

[penewbie]

They removed SNP from the vendor list without announcement and banned a ton of people. There’s discussion about on the SNP TG.

Urgh yeah it is just kinda drama but it just made me kinda disappointed because i thought it was a place for info and informed decision making.

No one really seems to have any idea about the doxxing. It was on a pen vendor TG?

You can ask Cain about it, he knows.

Also ask him who are all the users he banned for doxxing. Because actions speak louder than words, and I don't see anyone who gotten banned on SNP.

 

[chmuse]

They removed SNP from the vendor list without announcement and banned a ton of people. There’s discussion about on the SNP TG.

Urgh yeah it is just kinda drama but it just made me kinda disappointed because i thought it was a place for info and informed decision making.

No one really seems to have any idea about the doxxing. It was on a pen vendor TG?

Well that's rude. Wonder what happened.

 

[Kinsip]

You can ask Cain about it, he knows.
View attachment 5602

Also ask him who are all the users he banned for doxxing. Because actions speak louder than words, and I don't see anyone who gotten banned on SNP.

I don’t see why a few people doxxing results in SNP being scrubbed from the vendor list, particularly without announcement. Like ok doxxing bad but it’s irrelevant to 99% of SNP users.

 

[penewbie]

I don’t see why a few people doxxing results in SNP being scrubbed from the vendor list, particularly without announcement. Like ok doxxing bad but it’s irrelevant to 99% of SNP users.

Because SNP fanboys have gotten unhinged, and start spouting off crazy conspiratorial talk about anyone who doesn't acknowledge the superiority of Cain, his products and his services. This attitude, Cain and his groupie moderators have carefully cultivated.

Is what I'd like to think.

But in reality, it's probably because Cain did nothing about the doxxing, even after tirzhelp mods talked to him about it, apart from making a "doxxing is bad, mmkay" announcement.

 

[chmuse]

Because SNP fanboys have gotten unhinged, and start spouting off crazy conspiratorial talk about anyone who doesn't acknowledge the superiority of Cain, his products and his services. This attitude, Cain and his groupie moderators have carefully cultivated.

Is what I'd like to think.

But in reality, it's probably because Cain did nothing about the doxxing, even after tirzhelp mods talked to him about it, apart from making a "doxxing is bad, mmkay" announcement.

Were people banned or anything?

I swear we need a pep drama newsletter.

 

[keangkong]

I don’t see why a few people doxxing results in SNP being scrubbed from the vendor list, particularly without announcement. Like ok doxxing bad but it’s irrelevant to 99% of SNP users.

If SNP got banned, that means Stairmaster1 blames Cain for what happened.

 

[keangkong]

Were people banned or anything?

I swear we need a pep drama newsletter.

No, we don’t. We already hear about all the drama.

 

[chmuse]

Aw he signed out before I could decide if it was worth tagging him and reminding him we can see when he's here

 

[RestingGhostFace]

They removed SNP from the vendor list without announcement and banned a ton of people. There’s discussion about on the SNP TG.

Urgh yeah it is just kinda drama but it just made me kinda disappointed because i thought it was a place for info and informed decision making.

No one really seems to have any idea about the doxxing. It was on a pen vendor TG?

This is not true. Best to find out the facts before coming to another forum to spread drama. Cain knows why, the members that were a part of the issue knows why as well.

 

[RestingGhostFace]

If SNP got banned, that means Stairmaster1 blames Cain for what happened.

Just like other vendors have been removed for how they handled things, so was Cain.

 

[RestingGhostFace]

Because SNP fanboys have gotten unhinged, and start spouting off crazy conspiratorial talk about anyone who doesn't acknowledge the superiority of Cain, his products and his services. This attitude, Cain and his groupie moderators have carefully cultivated.

Is what I'd like to think.

But in reality, it's probably because Cain did nothing about the doxxing, even after tirzhelp mods talked to him about it, apart from making a "doxxing is bad, mmkay" announcement.

Exactly this. lets also add the bs "Dont talk pep drama" mod posts in snp, while mods are still at this very moment allowing it. As if members of of tirzhelp are not customers as well.

 

[YoYoFat]

Two brand new accounts bringing their sides of a dispute outside of the relevant TGs to an unrelated forum.

This doesn’t help, folks.

 

[RestingGhostFace]

Two brand new accounts bringing their sides of a dispute outside of the relevant TGs to an unrelated forum.

This doesn’t help, folks.

New or not....Facts are facts, and being new here does not mean we are new everywhere YoYo...

 

[Kinsip]

T

Just like other vendors have been removed for how they handled things, so was Cain.

Thats fine but they usually post why the vendor was removed and why they’re banned from the vendor list. So now people cannot even discuss this vendor without being banned from the group, organize group testing etc etc.

Anyway I just spent the past hour reading all the posts here on nexaph and it gave me a good idea about the pros and cons, nothing of which I could find about on STG.

My main issue is not nexaph but the extreme censorship and lack of explanation. I really call BS on the doxxing thing being the main issue.

 

[RestingGhostFace]

T

Thats fine but they usually post why the vendor was removed and why they’re banned from the vendor list. So now people cannot even discuss this vendor without being banned from the group, organize group testing etc etc.

Anyway I just spent the past hour reading all the posts here on nexaph and it gave me a good idea about the pros and cons, nothing of which I could find about on STG.

My main issue is not nexaph but the extreme censorship and lack of explanation. I really call BS on the doxxing thing being the main issue.

No one will ever know to be honest. However, im sure they have the proof they needed to make the decisions they needed to for the community they run.

 

[Kinsip]

No one will ever know to be honest. However, im sure they have the proof they needed to make the decisions they needed to for the community they run.

Well I guess now I’ve found this place for more info at least.

 

[chmuse]

Well, welcome to the forum both of you. 🤷‍♀️ That's why I was joking about a newsletter. Too much misinformation spreads in the pep world, and sometimes it turns out to be a big deal, sometimes it's a nothing burger.

 

[RestingGhostFace]

I

Well, welcome to the forum both of you. 🤷‍♀️ That's why I was joking about a newsletter. Too much misinformation spreads in the pep world, and sometimes it turns out to be a big deal, sometimes it's a nothing burger.

love that you used “Nothing Burger”

 

[YoYoFat]

New or not....Facts are facts, and being new here does not mean we are new everywhere YoYo...

As you said above, you don’t actually know the facts. Whatever the facts actually are, I’m most inclined to think that STG would like this whole thing to simmer down instead of it being brought to other platforms. That’s my impression, anyway.

Still, I’m particularly bummed for the newbies. Nexaph is a fantastic gateway for newbies to get into grey kits, to acclimate them to the whole grey community, after which they can spread their grey wings and explore other vendors. But now newbies who find their way to STG won’t even know Nexaph exists because they’re not on the vendor list and all mentions are apparently being poofed. There are tons of other vendors for newbies to use, of course, but Cain just made it soooooo dang easy. I wish as easy an option still existed on STG for the newbies’ benefit (and yes, being able to use a CC and avoid customs is a huge draw for newbies). Because that’s what STG is there for, getting people started and acclimated to the entire grey world. Banning an easy vendor with no zero/bunk peps or refusals to reship doesn’t seem to be in newbies’ best interests.

Ah well. I do hope they’re able to be friends again someday. 🤞🏽

 

[fetefille]

Apropos of nothing, I pinky swear*: anyone remember what it was like before the fda and EL scared the living shit out of compound folks?

*don’t believe this, my pinky swears ain’t worth shit

 

[Glp1judd]

Fat ppl are so dramatic.

🤣😎🤦🏻‍♂️🤪😝💕

 

[hexagonal]

This is not true. Best to find out the facts before coming to another forum to spread drama. Cain knows why, the members that were a part of the issue knows why as well.

Ah, I for one trust a random new signup that provides no details beyond vague "CAIN KNOWS WHAT HE DID"

You don't come across as some sort mysterious arbiter of truth who 'isn't new everywhere,' you come across as some weird self important random person.

 

[beefsteak]

Yoyo sucks so much of Cains cock and posts like 500 times a day on his channel I'm surprised she's not mod on his telegram. Maybe he thinks she's insufferable too.

Anyway, Yoyo accused this forum of doxxing on tirzhelp but it seems like the post was removed.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

T

Thats fine but they usually post why the vendor was removed and why they’re banned from the vendor list. So now people cannot even discuss this vendor without being banned from the group, organize group testing etc etc.

Anyway I just spent the past hour reading all the posts here on nexaph and it gave me a good idea about the pros and cons, nothing of which I could find about on STG.

My main issue is not nexaph but the extreme censorship and lack of explanation. I really call BS on the doxxing thing being the main issue.

They probably got sick of the shill army this place has running around everywhere

 

[chmuse]

How old is Nexa again? Started in like September right?

Edit: forgot to hit the quote button and don't know how to edit it in in the pretty box

 

[GtownBrown]

I think there is some truth to this. Cain has figured out the secret sauce to making grey kits available to the masses. I'm not sure how he's getting away with using PayPal. PayPal is even sending the tracking info for the orders. He definitely has a following and is selling out of everything he's stocking.

Seems to me that Nexa is set up as a legitimate research chemical business—Chinese owned with a manufacturing and distribution branch in Wyoming. That in itself is not illegal. If you’re set up correctly with all the proper paperwork, why wouldn’t you be able to take credit cards and PayPal? It’s an unregulated market.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Seems to me that Nexa is set up as a legitimate research chemical business—Chinese owned with a manufacturing and distribution branch in Wyoming. That in itself is not illegal. If you’re set up correctly with all the proper paperwork, why wouldn’t you be able to take credit cards and PayPal? It’s an unregulated market.

I just don’t know where to start. I don’t think a single sentence here is accurate.

 

[Valerie]

Why? It's great to have a place for the reddit crew/noobs to mainly hang out (you don't want them here lol). Plus their testing setup/results setup are pretty useful all the way around.

Hoard them into their own space. Direct the Facebook group moms there too. It's 100% the right move.

I concur ! The most helpful place when just moving to grey. No pretense. No judgement. No exams. Just information.

 

[nonyabizznez]

I just don’t know where to start. I don’t think a single sentence here is accurate.

100%

Seems to me that Nexa is set up as a legitimate research chemical business—Chinese owned with a manufacturing and distribution branch in Wyoming. That in itself is not illegal. If you’re set up correctly with all the proper paperwork, why wouldn’t you be able to take credit cards and PayPal? It’s an unregulated market.

I buy from Nexaph and I don't believe a word of this. I was waiting to see if it was tongue in cheek or just baiting. Can't believe it took an hour to get a response. I guess bullshit is easier to pick up as a solid then freshly shat.

I can open a bakery and sell cupcakes and cocaine. My legitimate cupcake business doesn't make my cocaine business legit. If you have a problem with cocaine in the analogy substitute Tirzepatide or most other things he sells.

ETA - what would even be more on point is if I said I baked the cupcakes but was actually ordering them from China. 🧁

 

[GtownBrown]

I just don’t know where to start. I don’t think a single sentence here is accurate.

Well, you know everything, so clarify. I am just saying what I have observed and supposed from doing business with Nexa. If I need to have documented evidence for every thought posted on this forum, there’s really not any point in participating in it. Why would I need to discuss anything if I already knew everything?

 

[Deeubee]

Well, you know everything, so clarify. I am just saying what I have observed and supposed from doing business with Nexa. If I need to have documented evidence for every thought posted on this forum, there’s really not any point in participating in it. Why would I need to discuss anything if I already knew everything?

It's like this, When you order some things from temu, the store is listed in china, the products are made and sourced in china but the store front itself, even though it says: 'YuNoHu Inc' based Guangzhou, It's actually being sold out of Oregon or Cali by John and Jade doe, who but tonnes of stuff from several companies in Guangzhou at bulk prices and resell, and Temu incentivizes them to continue doing so

 

[keangkong]

Seems to me that Nexa is set up as a legitimate research chemical business—Chinese owned with a manufacturing and distribution branch in Wyoming. That in itself is not illegal. If you’re set up correctly with all the proper paperwork, why wouldn’t you be able to take credit cards and PayPal? It’s an unregulated market.

Finally I found someone who agrees with me that Cain (该隐, Gāi yǐn) is actually Chinese.

 

[beefsteak]

Looks like Stairmaster just banned Nexaph from the TirzHelp channel. Cain made an announcement on it. What a dirtbag move.

 

[penewbie]

 

[penewbie]

Cain pretending not to know about his members that engaged in doxxing behaviour, claiming they were part of another server. - They were discussing it in another server, but their hate towards STG came directly from Cain and his groupies. They were never banned by Cain, despite his claims that doxxing is a bannable offense.

Cain claiming STG has always been biased towards Amo and against SNP - same old paranoid accusations that made his unhinged fans decide to take action against STG.

Cain claiming, THIS IS UNFAIR! - As if he isn't the third vendor being banned YTD, and the only vendor whose fanboys directly attacked STG.



Frankly, happy to see him go. May his rabid dogs be quarantined away in their little corner of the internet.

 

[normal]

All of this drama is so fucking weird lmao

 

[hexagonal]

All of this drama is so fucking weird lmao

this community does not take after your namesake

 

[RestingGhostFace]

As you said above, you don’t actually know the facts. Whatever the facts actually are, I’m most inclined to think that STG would like this whole thing to simmer down instead of it being brought to other platforms. That’s my impression, anyway.

Still, I’m particularly bummed for the newbies. Nexaph is a fantastic gateway for newbies to get into grey kits, to acclimate them to the whole grey community, after which they can spread their grey wings and explore other vendors. But now newbies who find their way to STG won’t even know Nexaph exists because they’re not on the vendor list and all mentions are apparently being poofed. There are tons of other vendors for newbies to use, of course, but Cain just made it soooooo dang easy. I wish as easy an option still existed on STG for the newbies’ benefit (and yes, being able to use a CC and avoid customs is a huge draw for newbies). Because that’s what STG is there for, getting people started and acclimated to the entire grey world. Banning an easy vendor with no zero/bunk peps or refusals to reship doesn’t seem to be in newbies’ best interests.

Ah well. I do hope they’re able to be friends again someday. 🤞🏽

Girl shut up. Be bummed. You should have been bummed in snp while you were there watching then trash stg. Them coming back acting all surprised. I KNOW THAT ABOUT YOU!!! You didnt give a damn until doxing got involved. You’re just as much part of the problem. So save the bs. Silly. And don’t say nothing else to me either.

 

[Kinsip]

Girl shut up. Be bummed. You should have been bummed in snp while you were there watching then trash stg. Them coming back acting all surprised. I KNOW THAT ABOUT YOU!!! You didnt give a damn until doxing got involved. You’re just as much part of the problem. So save the bs. Silly. And don’t say nothing else to me either.

aight I think I’m good with getting banned for one comment in a different TG. you guys are unhinged.

 

[RestingGhostFace]

aight I think I’m good with getting banned for one comment in a different TG. you guys are unhinged.

Ironic…ditto.

 

[GtownBrown]

It's like this, When you order some things from temu, the store is listed in china, the products are made and sourced in china but the store front itself, even though it says: 'YuNoHu Inc' based Guangzhou, It's actually being sold out of Oregon or Cali by John and Jade doe, who but tonnes of stuff from several companies in Guangzhou at bulk prices and resell, and Temu incentivizes them to continue doing so

Yes, this is not the part I needed clarified. My observation is that there’s a Wyoming based business from where this product is shipped. It’s also my observation that there may be a finishing operation at that location due to the speed at which they are recently able to turn orders around. The fact that they can process credit card payments indicated a registered business, that’s all. Again, I have no knowledge of the inner workings of nexaph. I’m just putting pieces together from my own observations. I know my payment went to China because I had to pay an international fee.

I know @exploitedworkerbee had beef with this guy who oversees this market. I don’t know much about that other than he claims Cain is not trustworthy. I personally don’t find any of these vendors trustworthy. What I do know is what I have experienced, which is that Nexaph has put quality product in my hand quickly and easily. And what I have observed about this forum is that a lot of people here are condescending to me just because I don’t know all the backstory/ all the research/ all the science. It’s been made clear to me in the last few months that my contributions to the discussions here are not valued or wanted. So be it.

 

[beefsteak]

Cain pretending not to know about his members that engaged in doxxing behaviour, claiming they were part of another server. - They were discussing it in another server, but their hate towards STG came directly from Cain and his groupies. They were never banned by Cain, despite his claims that doxxing is a bannable offense.

Cain claiming STG has always been biased towards Amo and against SNP - same old paranoid accusations that made his unhinged fans decide to take action against STG.

Cain claiming, THIS IS UNFAIR! - As if he isn't the third vendor being banned YTD, and the only vendor whose fanboys directly attacked STG.



Frankly, happy to see him go. May his rabid dogs be quarantined away in their little corner of the internet.

The same bias is what makes Cain safe. Cain knows he's on thin ice. Cain knows everyone loves to shit on him. Cain's one bad test result away from a Krysia 60 minute video.

Mofos want him to fail but he hasn't yet. By playing dirty the shackles are possibly coming off resulting in lower quality and increased pricing. The power is getting to stairmaster's head.

 

[penewbie]

The same bias is what makes Cain safe. Cain knows he's on thin ice. Cain knows everyone loves to shit on him. Cain's one bad test result away from a Krysia 60 minute video.

Mofos want him to fail but he hasn't yet. By playing dirty the shackles are possibly coming off resulting in lower quality and increased pricing. The power is getting to stairmaster's head.