Upset husband wants me to quit

[hexagonal]

And this is why there are so many single mothers out there. No doubt avoiding an ounce of accountability.

I would argue that if a man divorces a woman, or pushes her to divorce, because he is incapable of letting her make her own decisions about her healthcare, he is the one who is refusing to be accountable to his vows.

I can understand wanting to avoid experimental drugs or the grey market, and I think it would be reasonable to voice those concerns, particularly if there are children in the picture, but if he wants to control her ability to have compounded or name brand tirz, that says far more about him than it does anyone else.

 

[MsGizmo]

Even the crazy ones with dirty feet.

lol .. have we met before?

 

[randompersonrandom]

I can't help you ease his worries, because your marriage is not any of the three I've experienced, and I can't even really advise. I CAN weigh in on what I'd do; I'd do the best I could to explain why I think this is the best call for me, answer any questions of his to the best of my ability and promise to research any that I didn't know the answers to and get back with him (and keep that promise), let him know that I love him and that I love his concern, agree to anything that I can easily do to help him feel less anxious about the situation, and also not argue with him about anything that I've decided. Because there's really nothing to argue ABOUT; this is my body, I've put in the reading and made my own choices, and that's how it is. That's a subject I'd close, but gently.

Again, my hypothetical situation is different from yours; I'm five years out from my last marriage, and I believe that one probably will BE my last marriage, because I very much like being my own mistress and saying yes to connection but no to partnership. I hope you find what your right answer is.

 

[AndyPanda]

Increasingly women are saying that being single is a happier life..

Those ones should definitely stay that way then.

 

[AndyPanda]

Threaten to spend money on couples counseling or prescription Zepbound.

And in counseling, be sure to explain how she put their business all over the internet for strangers to chime in because she trusts randos more than the man she married.

 

[MsGizmo]

And in counseling, be sure to explain how she put their business all over the internet for strangers to chime in because she trusts randos more than the man she married.

She didn't ask for, or need, his opinion. She is her own person making her own choices on her own health. All she wants is to help him calm down. News flash for ya buddy. Woman have not been put on this earth just for male entertainment.

I have been married for nearly 40 years but that doesn't give either me or my husband the right to dictate what the other one of us does with our own body.

 

[deleted.user.17]

Are you clinically obese? If so, have him compare the side effects of obesity vs glp-1s? Reta isn't FDA approved, it's still experimental, so you can't use the "this drug has been proven safe and effective by the government" argument though......

No, I’ve never been overweight 😬 I guess I basically microdose to stay lean.

 

[AndyPanda]

She didn't ask for, or need, his opinion. She is her own person making her own choices on her own health. All she wants is to help him calm down. News flash for ya buddy. Woman have not been put on this earth just for male entertainment.

I have been married for nearly 40 years but that doesn't give either me or my husband the right to dictate what the other one of us does with our own body.

Poor guy. Must be some sort of simp.

 

[MsGizmo]

Poor guy. Must be some sort of simp.

ROFL. Says the guy who fumbles one night stands.

 

[MrBMG]

Or he doesn’t want to deal with all the extra skin. I met a chick on Bumble once who portrayed herself as gorgeous. She had a nice face, but when the clothes came off I was like, “nope”

Bro.. this ish is a diabolical mic drop! After reading through the rest of the thread I was crying laughing coming back to this post😂😂😂

 

[AndyPanda]

I'm faithfully married but never had expectations or standards. Everyone deserves to be loved. Even the crazy ones with dirty feet.

Expectations are premature letdowns.

 

[m100568]

Dosages you stacked? Asking for a friend. 😉

I had my own system. I went up to 15mg Tirz and up to 5mg Reta. I held there for a month and then I then titrated down on Tirz to 5mg and up to Reta on 12mg. Weight losss was steady either way. No stalls.

 

[JoonyO]

I had my own system. I went up to 15mg Tirz and up to 5mg Reta. I held there for a month and then I then titrated down on Tirz to 5mg and up to Reta on 12mg. Weight losss was steady either way. No stalls.View attachment 9054

Ok then. You began and ended with 15 and 5. Got it.

 

[peptideusername]

Increasingly women are saying that being single is a happier life..

When the alternative is finding absolute gems like @AndyPanda, I couldn't imagine spending one more day alone.

 

[AndyPanda]

When the alternative is finding absolute gems like @AndyPanda, I couldn't imagine spending one more day alone.

You’re going to make me cry. You’re so sweet. I love you too!

 

[keangkong]

I am the worst person in the world to offer relationship advice ("You know why divorce is so expensive? Because it's worth it."), but I can definitely understand where he's coming from.

Since reta is experimental and there are still a lot of unknowns, you might want to consider moving to sema or tirz to ease his concerns and keep the peace since both have been approved by our government overlords and more importantly have and are being used safely by millions of people around the world. Reta may reach that point some day too, but until then I totally get why people may have concerns about it (I was one of them until about 6 months ago).

I was thinking that you shouldn't switch medicines just to appease your spouse. However, that type of attitude may explain why I'm divorced.

 

[hexagonal]

And in counseling, be sure to explain how she put their business all over the internet for strangers to chime in because she trusts randos more than the man she married.

Marriage counselors are not going to suggest that either partner should avoid getting outside opinions on things they are unsure of.

Getting feedback from people, particularly the ones that are at least somewhat knowledgeable in the subject in question when you are unsure of enough details yourself is a totally rational thing to do. The context informs the decision.

No, I’ve never been overweight 😬 I guess I basically microdose to stay lean.

I suspect this might be part of why he is so concerned - you're not overweight and never have been, so the benefits of these drugs is significantly less for you than for someone who has been or is overweight, while you are then taking on additional risk.

I'm not saying you shouldn't take them, but you are taking two significant risks here - one in using an unapproved drug, and another in buying it from underground sources - while only partially utilizing it for it's primary purpose. Much of the media attention and online discourse from people that don't know much about GLP-1s has focused on the negative side effects and people just generally having a "it sounds too good to be true so there's no way it is" kind of attitude towards drugs, so if that's all he's been exposed to, he's got a heightened level of concern around the risks.

 

[fetefille]

One less child to deal with.

"one less bell to answer, one less egg to fry"

 

[AndyPanda]

I would argue that if a man divorces a woman, or pushes her to divorce, because he is incapable of letting her make her own decisions about her healthcare, he is the one who is refusing to be accountable to his vows.

I can understand wanting to avoid experimental drugs or the grey market, and I think it would be reasonable to voice those concerns, particularly if there are children in the picture, but if he wants to control her ability to have compounded or name brand tirz, that says far more about him than it does anyone else.

Maybe he doesn’t want to control anything, and just loves her exactly the way she is.

 

[mlke6]

Threaten to spend money on couples counseling or prescription Zepbound.

did you recently post on meso?

 

[MsGizmo]

Maybe he doesn’t want to control anything, and just loves her exactly the way she is.

Yes, that IS control .. HE doesn't want her to change anything .. who is that serving? Again .. we are not here just to please a man.

 

[mlke6]

Yes, that IS control .. HE doesn't want her to change anything .. who is that serving? Again .. we are not here just to please a man.

Just all the extra side benefits they are finding and researching on these meds should make the bro excited. I get if the concern is over FDA approval but really what does that really mean with our government. Look at all the foods... hell our municipal water.

 

[Phatmax]

My husband started reading about reta today and decided that he doesn't like me using peptides. He saw an article about how eli lilly is being sued for the serious side effects and is terrified that something bad is going to happen to me. He's a good husband and is just worried about me. Now, I have never used more than the lowest dose and I don't have any serious side effects. I also haven't tried any other peptides. I make sure I hit appropriate calorie goals, hydrate, take vitamins, creatine, and omega 3's, and exercise daily. Wondering if anyone could help me show him literature/data that can ease his worries?

I'm taking reta myself and have seen all good things down 34lbs in 2 months and looking about Online from the trials its all good here one i found....
cholesterol and LDL cholesterol are down about 30-33% My triglycerides are down 70% My good cholesterol is up about 10% I don't have asthma any more so far as I can tell. Haven't used my inhaler in 10 months. My fatty liver disease has resolved(confirmed by CT scan) My blood pressure has normalized. It used to be 130/90, now 105/70 usually. My renal function measured by GFR has increased and Cystatin-C (a more accurate measure of kidney function) has decreased

 

[Graymaxxem]

Increasingly women are saying that being single is a happier life..

I work with teenagers and young adults. Many of them do not see the point of marriage. Birth and marriage rates are plummeting for a reason.

 

[deleted.user.17]

Marriage counselors are not going to suggest that either partner should avoid getting outside opinions on things they are unsure of.

Getting feedback from people, particularly the ones that are at least somewhat knowledgeable in the subject in question when you are unsure of enough details yourself is a totally rational thing to do. The context informs the decision.



I suspect this might be part of why he is so concerned - you're not overweight and never have been, so the benefits of these drugs is significantly less for you than for someone who has been or is overweight, while you are then taking on additional risk.

I'm not saying you shouldn't take them, but you are taking two significant risks here - one in using an unapproved drug, and another in buying it from underground sources - while only partially utilizing it for it's primary purpose. Much of the media attention and online discourse from people that don't know much about GLP-1s has focused on the negative side effects and people just generally having a "it sounds too good to be true so there's no way it is" kind of attitude towards drugs, so if that's all he's been exposed to, he's got a heightened level of concern around the risks.

You’re right. I was hoping I could find some info that says “Hey it’s not that bad or dangerous”. He saw how someone went blind while using other glps and I wanted to illustrate that those people are not eating/ being conscious of nourishing their bodies… and that is the source of the worst side effects. Not the peptide directly

 

[deleted.user.17]

Maybe he doesn’t want to control anything, and just loves her exactly the way she is.

He doesn’t understand peptides, thinks injections are spooky, and doesn’t want me to have some long lasting side effect 10 years from now. All valid and he’s being a good husband. He’s the best

 

[hexagonal]

You’re right. I was hoping I could find some info that says “Hey it’s not that bad or dangerous”. He saw how someone went blind while using other glps and I wanted to illustrate that those people are not eating/ being conscious of nourishing their bodies… and that is the source of the worst side effects. Not the peptide directly

I don't know that we have any evidence that the people who have experienced NAION have done so because of what they were eating after starting GLP-1s.

Most side effects are, from my interpretation of the available information - as a layperson - is that they are almost certainly just what you are predisposed via genetics to or what state your body was in prior.

The honest answer based on the information we have today really just is "These are an incredibly widespread class of drugs with a whole host of positive health effects. Serious side effects are exceedingly rare based on all of our current knowledge. We have less data on retatrutide but phase 3 trials have not been discontinued and have even had extended programs added in some of them, which indicates there has not been anything of significant concern in the trials at this point in time. The peptides I am injecting do come from a Chinese underground lab, but there is community organized testing to help verify the quality and quantity of the peptide in the vial."

 

[hexagonal]

Maybe he doesn’t want to control anything, and just loves her exactly the way she is.

You express that by saying "I love you exactly the way you are and there's no need to take any potentially risky drugs to change that."

You can have a respectful conversation explaining your apprehension around the risks.

You can express that because of those risks, you would personally prefer that she stops.

I would even say that she has the responsibility to try and explain to him why she believes this to not be a risky behavior (and indeed, deleted.user.17 seems to be attempting to do exactly that) because if you are going to take actions that worry your partner I believe it is the right thing to do to try and allay those concerns.

But ultimately, he needs to respect her ability to have autonomy over her own body. The onus isn't on her to respect his desires about her body. Marriage is a partnership, not something that makes the wife subservient to her husband's whims.

 

[deleted.user.17]

My husband isn't trying to control what I do at all and he would never do that. He's very very sweet. The whole point of this post was to just provide good information to him so he feels less freaked out. I thought maybe yall would have the best resources. It seems like Andy might have some unresolved trauma and maybe my post triggered him lol. Sorry Andy!

 

[Calm Logic]

Actually, I have a counterexample.

Hospitalization for hiccups, which really drove home the problem of all of these GLPs with a one-week half-life:

GYC Reta 50 GB

I know a lot of people haven’t received theirs yet but I’m hoping to find anyone who has received the recent GYC Reta 50 GB and started using it. I’ve been using Reta from other sources (Nexaph, SSA and QSC) for a long time. But what I am experiencing after trying this GYC Reta is unlike...

glp1forum.com

Someone else with a related issue:

Severe hiccups / diaphragm spasms on Reta

Tldr; Has anyone else experienced hiccup problems on reta? Does anyone have any advice? Long version: Beginning September 1st, I've had off-and-on severe hiccup problems. The first time it happened (9/1), I had moved from 5 mg to 7 mg of Reta weekly two weeks prior and was doing extremely...

glp1forum.com

The tablets of orforglipron from China (and the pens of liraglutide from India) are interesting to me since they have a shorter half-life. Though they are less effective for weight loss, they could be stacked with other GLPs or cagri.

From Google Gemini:

Medication	Primary Receptor Agonism	Half-Life	Dosing Frequency Supported
Liraglutide	GLP-1	13 hours	Once daily (Subcutaneous)
Orforglipron	GLP-1	29–49 hours (Approx. 1.2 to 2 days)	Once daily (Oral)
Tirzepatide	GLP-1 and GIP	5 days	Once weekly
Retatrutide	GLP-1, GIP, and Glucagon	Approximately 6 days	Once weekly
Semaglutide	GLP-1	7 days (1 week)	Once weekly
Cagrilintide	Amylin	159–195 hours (Approx. 6.6 to 8.1 days)	Once weekly