WARNING: ABC Allen has a lot of nerve

[keangkong]

I've been reaching out Allen since he popped back up on telegram, whatsapp, and sent an email about my order from Sept 12th. He didnt respond but I kept messaging on tg.. He finally replied and said I dont know a ......... , never heard of the name. I had to post screenshots of our conversation, confirmation transfer etc. I see he read it and hasnt responded yet.

Is the Telegram Message address that you used?


TG: @Allen_peptide

 

[Sara360]

4,443 kits will fit inside a cubic yard.

Sounds like you’re talking from experience 😂

 

[Rejuvenateme000!]

Is the Telegram Message address that you used?


TG: @Allen_peptide

@Allen_pep and the email [email protected]

 

[randompersonrandom]

4,443 kits will fit inside a cubic yard.

and hey, if the apartment is air conditioned, so much the better!

 

[Airborne Daddy]

oh yeah, I should be clear--I'm positive that most "US Warehouses" are "the walk in closet of some guy's two bedroom apartment in Philly or Amarillo or Champagne." That's ok with me.

Gotta be Philly why not Pittsburgh

 

[randompersonrandom]

Gotta be Philly why not Pittsburgh

Champagne, IL and Amarillo TX track for you but Philly is a bridge too far??

 

[randompersonrandom]

This is my general feeling, as well. I don' even mind if the cost is a bit higher getting it from US warehouses, just having it already here (or with an embedded supply chain that gets it there independently) makes me feel less anxious about where the product is and that I'll get it. Totally convincing myself this, of course, but I know that.

May I ask who you've used that you're happy with that has the US warehouse? I've got a couple on my list of options, but wouldn't mind a positive experience to add to the checklist.

The only from-China vendor I've ever bought from was GYC. I'd order a couple of kits to hit MOQ, go about my business, then when my packages would arrive I'd pack it into thermoses into the freezer; gloat over it, and repeat a week or two later until I had to stop because ok, that's MORE enough. I picked them because I liked how they handled ZeroPepgate the previous winter, they took Paypal at the time, and they'd never been in a disorganized or sketchy scandal that I could find. I know someday they will, and that will break my heart.

 

[Jfrick11]

Message him and/or post right on his thread

I've done all of that and messaged the mods...I actually had to go in through the pepchat server because he still has his accounts locked so no one can post directly on them.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Champagne, IL and Amarillo TX track for you but Philly is a bridge too far??

I'm 2 hours away from the city of absolutely no brotherly love in Pennsyltucky but the Eagle fans would stone you. Fortunately I'm a Steelers guy and ain't sayin nawthin....

 

[Rejuvenateme000!]

I've done all of that and messaged the mods...I actually had to go in through the pepchat server because he still has his accounts locked so no one can post directly on them.

I see your post! Thank you!!! I'm SimplyTerri in there. I cant figure out how to post but Thank you!

 

[desinr-gal]

So.. Is this forum accepting sponsors who have ripped off members?

 

[randompersonrandom]

You seem to be doing the right things to minimize risk. I sometimes order from Peptide Group Buys, which appears to be a low risk vendor, in my opinion. (Hopefully, I didn't just jinx them.) I also ordered from SRY. Simply due to luck/timing, I didn't get burned with SRY, although I will say that it appears probable that folks who were stiffed by SRY were not intentionally stiffed.

I've thought about them! (PGB, I mean, not SRY). If I do this long enough, I'll likely try them out, and if they don't ship from within the US, they'll be the first group I try out that doesn't. And I don't think intention matters much to me, honestly. I sort of doubt MOST vendors who end up ultimately ripping someone off set out to intentionally do so. They were just disorganized, greedy, arrogant, didn't care much about the long view, didn't reduce their legal risk, or just got unlucky. That last factor isn't one that you can realistically control for at all, but I think that when you start seeing clear signs on the other factors, your risk goes up.

Please do NOT assume that I'm victim blaming for people who get ripped off; this is just how I personally try to reduce my own ripoff risks. Someday it'll fail, and I know it'll upset me so much when it happens to me, so I do the best I can to delay that day.