WARNING: ABC Allen has a lot of nerve

Rejuvenateme000! said:
I've been reaching out Allen since he popped back up on telegram, whatsapp, and sent an email about my order from Sept 12th. He didnt respond but I kept messaging on tg.. He finally replied and said I dont know a ......... , never heard of the name. I had to post screenshots of our conversation, confirmation transfer etc. I see he read it and hasnt responded yet.
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Is the Telegram Message address that you used?


TG: @Allen_peptide
 
ThatNextGril said:
This is my general feeling, as well. I don' even mind if the cost is a bit higher getting it from US warehouses, just having it already here (or with an embedded supply chain that gets it there independently) makes me feel less anxious about where the product is and that I'll get it. Totally convincing myself this, of course, but I know that.

May I ask who you've used that you're happy with that has the US warehouse? I've got a couple on my list of options, but wouldn't mind a positive experience to add to the checklist.
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The only from-China vendor I've ever bought from was GYC. I'd order a couple of kits to hit MOQ, go about my business, then when my packages would arrive I'd pack it into thermoses into the freezer; gloat over it, and repeat a week or two later until I had to stop because ok, that's MORE enough. I picked them because I liked how they handled ZeroPepgate the previous winter, they took Paypal at the time, and they'd never been in a disorganized or sketchy scandal that I could find. I know someday they will, and that will break my heart.
 
keangkong said:
You seem to be doing the right things to minimize risk. I sometimes order from Peptide Group Buys, which appears to be a low risk vendor, in my opinion. (Hopefully, I didn't just jinx them.) I also ordered from SRY. Simply due to luck/timing, I didn't get burned with SRY, although I will say that it appears probable that folks who were stiffed by SRY were not intentionally stiffed.
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I've thought about them! (PGB, I mean, not SRY). If I do this long enough, I'll likely try them out, and if they don't ship from within the US, they'll be the first group I try out that doesn't. And I don't think intention matters much to me, honestly. I sort of doubt MOST vendors who end up ultimately ripping someone off set out to intentionally do so. They were just disorganized, greedy, arrogant, didn't care much about the long view, didn't reduce their legal risk, or just got unlucky. That last factor isn't one that you can realistically control for at all, but I think that when you start seeing clear signs on the other factors, your risk goes up.

Please do NOT assume that I'm victim blaming for people who get ripped off; this is just how I personally try to reduce my own ripoff risks. Someday it'll fail, and I know it'll upset me so much when it happens to me, so I do the best I can to delay that day.
 
desinr-gal said:
So.. Is this forum accepting sponsors who have ripped off members?
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If the forum cancelled the sponsorship of a vendor the first time someone posts something that says the person was ripped off with no support screenshots, then the forum would have few sponsors. Am I saying that the person who claimed he or she was ripped off was lying? No, I don't have much information as to what happened. Also, I don't know about miscommunications between the posting party and the vendor. I'm not asking the aggrieved forum member to post the stuff here, however, if he wanted assistance in dealing with vendor, he probably ought to talk to a moderator. Before cancelling a sponsor, glpforum may want actual proof. Although I don't speak for glpforum, I suspect that if Zippity believed a vendor was ripping people off, Zippity would ban the sponsoring vendor, On one occasion I remember, a forum member complained that that vendor had ripped that person off. It soon became obvious that the person was lying and had never purchased anything from that vendor. That's one instance. I doubt that is the situation here. I do remember reading several posts here where someone claimed that a vendor had ripped the person off and it turned out there was some form of miscommunication. I do note that the complaint appears in this thread, which vendor is not permitted to respond to. Vendors can only respond in the vendor threads. We also don't know whether the vendor is even able to match the username here with the purchaser.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I've thought about them! (PGB, I mean, not SRY). If I do this long enough, I'll likely try them out, and if they don't ship from within the US, they'll be the first group I try out that doesn't. And I don't think intention matters much to me, honestly. I sort of doubt MOST vendors who end up ultimately ripping someone off set out to intentionally do so. They were just disorganized, greedy, arrogant, didn't care much about the long view, didn't reduce their legal risk, or just got unlucky. That last factor isn't one that you can realistically control for at all, but I think that when you start seeing clear signs on the other factors, your risk goes up.

Please do NOT assume that I'm victim blaming for people who get ripped off; this is just how I personally try to reduce my own ripoff risks. Someday it'll fail, and I know it'll upset me so much when it happens to me, so I do the best I can to delay that day.
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I don't like con people even regardless of whether there were signals that should show a person should have used caution. As for me, I believe I have always acted at least reasonably in making purchases. Yet one time I was stiffed. By stiffed, I mean I didn't get any peptides and the vendor didn't make things right. In my case, I believe the vendor probably intended to send me peptides when he took my order. There is a danger in paying with crypto people whose real names we don't know and who live in a foreign country. Veterans here will tell you that seemingly reliable will suddenly turn bad. I'm not trying to scare anyone out of purchasing GLP-1 drugs. I do think it's good to bear in mind that these purchases carry more risk than buying something from WalMart or Amazon.
 
desinr-gal said:
So.. Is this forum accepting sponsors who have ripped off members?
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It's been made abundantly clear that vendors are not vetted by the forum and that the forum neither recommends or eschews any of them. View the vendors here as you would any ad you see on a city bus. Revenue has to come from somewhere but the transit authority isn't endorsing.
 
Update:
I received 2 of 4 kits I ordered.
Allen reached out and asked if I wanted a refund or the missing kits re-sent. I told him to send the kits. Unfortunately, they are out of that and he offered to send the same product, different MG. Thing is, I paid for two kits of 20, he offered to send one kit of 40. Cool, but Im out 25USD. I asked him to send a kit of 50 instead. We'll see what happens.
 
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ZuZuPetals said:
It's been made abundantly clear that vendors are not vetted by the forum and that the forum neither recommends or eschews any of them. View the vendors here as you would any ad you see on a city bus. Revenue has to come from somewhere but the transit authority isn't endorsing.
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Pre vetting is a different story.. I am talking about not providing product after payment. and I guess in this instance there wasn't a lot of proof, but this forum did ban others for less egregious reasons in the past. Also I misunderstood..I was under the impression that there were more than one person missing their products, and that seemed sketchy to me, if the vendor was still on this forum actively advertising. I have the tendency to believe what people say, which isnt always true.
 
keangkong said:
If the forum cancelled the sponsorship of a vendor the first time someone posts something that says the person was ripped off with no support screenshots, then the forum would have few sponsors. Am I saying that the person who claimed he or she was ripped off was lying? No, I don't have much information as to what happened. Also, I don't know about miscommunications between the posting party and the vendor. I'm not asking the aggrieved forum member to post the stuff here, however, if he wanted assistance in dealing with vendor, he probably ought to talk to a moderator. Before cancelling a sponsor, glpforum may want actual proof. Although I don't speak for glpforum, I suspect that if Zippity believed a vendor was ripping people off, Zippity would ban the sponsoring vendor, On one occasion I remember, a forum member complained that that vendor had ripped that person off. It soon became obvious that the person was lying and had never purchased anything from that vendor. That's one instance. I doubt that is the situation here. I do remember reading several posts here where someone claimed that a vendor had ripped the person off and it turned out there was some form of miscommunication. I do note that the complaint appears in this thread, which vendor is not permitted to respond to. Vendors can only respond in the vendor threads. We also don't know whether the vendor is even able to match the username here with the purchaser.
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well said. I thought it was a bigger problem than one guy with a dispute. I need to read more carefuly.
 
desinr-gal said:
Pre vetting is a different story.. I am talking about not providing product after payment. and I guess in this instance there wasn't a lot of proof, but this forum did ban others for less egregious reasons in the past. Also I misunderstood..I was under the impression that there were more than one person missing their products, and that seemed sketchy to me, if the vendor was still on this forum actively advertising. I have the tendency to believe what people say, which isnt always true.
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Your belief about other people missing their products is not completely wrong. Many others had recently complained about not getting product with Allen. However, it appears those problems are now getting resolved.
 
Are the issues with ABC Allen solely the shipipng/receiving goods? I previously ordered two kits from them and received the items. Any concern about the actual product?
 
Glad to hear Allen seems to slowly but surely be working toward making all of this right. An apology and short explanation of what went wrong would go a long way for a lot of people though.
 
I had to send screen shots because "Allen" claimed he didn't know me. I got a response Oct 15th s ago saying, " Hi honey, I will check again now".
then Oct 17th, sending me a message saying, " did you delete messages?" I said No, you never responded after sept 13th, that's me trying to get an answer multiple times. I said, " you have the transaction id showing the money was completed"! waiting for a response, but I see he's still selling and made a post about reta 10
At this point why would I even want this product. Everyone always says there is a risk, but to continue selling without fixing ALL previous orders is blatant thievery unless fixed!
 
Rejuvenateme000! said:
I had to send screen shots because "Allen" claimed he didn't know me. I got a response Oct 15th s ago saying, " Hi honey, I will check again now".
then Oct 17th, sending me a message saying, " did you delete messages?" I said No, you never responded after sept 13th, that's me trying to get an answer multiple times. I said, " you have the transaction id showing the money was completed"! waiting for a response, but I see he's still selling and made a post about reta 10
At this point why would I even want this product. Everyone always says there is a risk, but to continue selling without fixing ALL previous orders is blatant thievery unless fixed!
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As someone who was recently made whole by Allen, I would say to give him some grace. I was super pissed off and figured I was out several hundreds of dollars. I pretty much figured I was taking an "L" on this one and Allen made it right. It took A LOT longer than I anticipated, but at the end of the day I got what I purchased. It beat the alternative 🤷🏽
 
It seems that he’s still sorting out previous order issues. His telegram group is back open and not locked down, which is a good sign. There are some in the group saying they placed orders and received shipping a few hours latter.

I plan to place another order to see if he’s gotten better, but only time will tell. I still have faith in him until I officially get burned.
 
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