WARNING: ABC Allen has a lot of nerve

[keangkong]

I've been reaching out Allen since he popped back up on telegram, whatsapp, and sent an email about my order from Sept 12th. He didnt respond but I kept messaging on tg.. He finally replied and said I dont know a ......... , never heard of the name. I had to post screenshots of our conversation, confirmation transfer etc. I see he read it and hasnt responded yet.

Is the Telegram Message address that you used?


TG: @Allen_peptide

 

[Sara360]

4,443 kits will fit inside a cubic yard.

Sounds like you’re talking from experience 😂

 

[Rejuvenateme000!]

Is the Telegram Message address that you used?


TG: @Allen_peptide

@Allen_pep and the email [email protected]

 

[randompersonrandom]

4,443 kits will fit inside a cubic yard.

and hey, if the apartment is air conditioned, so much the better!

 

[Airborne Daddy]

oh yeah, I should be clear--I'm positive that most "US Warehouses" are "the walk in closet of some guy's two bedroom apartment in Philly or Amarillo or Champagne." That's ok with me.

Gotta be Philly why not Pittsburgh

 

[randompersonrandom]

Gotta be Philly why not Pittsburgh

Champagne, IL and Amarillo TX track for you but Philly is a bridge too far??

 

[randompersonrandom]

This is my general feeling, as well. I don' even mind if the cost is a bit higher getting it from US warehouses, just having it already here (or with an embedded supply chain that gets it there independently) makes me feel less anxious about where the product is and that I'll get it. Totally convincing myself this, of course, but I know that.

May I ask who you've used that you're happy with that has the US warehouse? I've got a couple on my list of options, but wouldn't mind a positive experience to add to the checklist.

The only from-China vendor I've ever bought from was GYC. I'd order a couple of kits to hit MOQ, go about my business, then when my packages would arrive I'd pack it into thermoses into the freezer; gloat over it, and repeat a week or two later until I had to stop because ok, that's MORE enough. I picked them because I liked how they handled ZeroPepgate the previous winter, they took Paypal at the time, and they'd never been in a disorganized or sketchy scandal that I could find. I know someday they will, and that will break my heart.

 

[Jfrick11]

Message him and/or post right on his thread

I've done all of that and messaged the mods...I actually had to go in through the pepchat server because he still has his accounts locked so no one can post directly on them.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Champagne, IL and Amarillo TX track for you but Philly is a bridge too far??

I'm 2 hours away from the city of absolutely no brotherly love in Pennsyltucky but the Eagle fans would stone you. Fortunately I'm a Steelers guy and ain't sayin nawthin....

 

[Rejuvenateme000!]

I've done all of that and messaged the mods...I actually had to go in through the pepchat server because he still has his accounts locked so no one can post directly on them.

I see your post! Thank you!!! I'm SimplyTerri in there. I cant figure out how to post but Thank you!

 

[desinr-gal]

So.. Is this forum accepting sponsors who have ripped off members?

 

[randompersonrandom]

You seem to be doing the right things to minimize risk. I sometimes order from Peptide Group Buys, which appears to be a low risk vendor, in my opinion. (Hopefully, I didn't just jinx them.) I also ordered from SRY. Simply due to luck/timing, I didn't get burned with SRY, although I will say that it appears probable that folks who were stiffed by SRY were not intentionally stiffed.

I've thought about them! (PGB, I mean, not SRY). If I do this long enough, I'll likely try them out, and if they don't ship from within the US, they'll be the first group I try out that doesn't. And I don't think intention matters much to me, honestly. I sort of doubt MOST vendors who end up ultimately ripping someone off set out to intentionally do so. They were just disorganized, greedy, arrogant, didn't care much about the long view, didn't reduce their legal risk, or just got unlucky. That last factor isn't one that you can realistically control for at all, but I think that when you start seeing clear signs on the other factors, your risk goes up.

Please do NOT assume that I'm victim blaming for people who get ripped off; this is just how I personally try to reduce my own ripoff risks. Someday it'll fail, and I know it'll upset me so much when it happens to me, so I do the best I can to delay that day.

 

[keangkong]

So.. Is this forum accepting sponsors who have ripped off members?

If the forum cancelled the sponsorship of a vendor the first time someone posts something that says the person was ripped off with no support screenshots, then the forum would have few sponsors. Am I saying that the person who claimed he or she was ripped off was lying? No, I don't have much information as to what happened. Also, I don't know about miscommunications between the posting party and the vendor. I'm not asking the aggrieved forum member to post the stuff here, however, if he wanted assistance in dealing with vendor, he probably ought to talk to a moderator. Before cancelling a sponsor, glpforum may want actual proof. Although I don't speak for glpforum, I suspect that if Zippity believed a vendor was ripping people off, Zippity would ban the sponsoring vendor, On one occasion I remember, a forum member complained that that vendor had ripped that person off. It soon became obvious that the person was lying and had never purchased anything from that vendor. That's one instance. I doubt that is the situation here. I do remember reading several posts here where someone claimed that a vendor had ripped the person off and it turned out there was some form of miscommunication. I do note that the complaint appears in this thread, which vendor is not permitted to respond to. Vendors can only respond in the vendor threads. We also don't know whether the vendor is even able to match the username here with the purchaser.

 

[keangkong]

I've thought about them! (PGB, I mean, not SRY). If I do this long enough, I'll likely try them out, and if they don't ship from within the US, they'll be the first group I try out that doesn't. And I don't think intention matters much to me, honestly. I sort of doubt MOST vendors who end up ultimately ripping someone off set out to intentionally do so. They were just disorganized, greedy, arrogant, didn't care much about the long view, didn't reduce their legal risk, or just got unlucky. That last factor isn't one that you can realistically control for at all, but I think that when you start seeing clear signs on the other factors, your risk goes up.

Please do NOT assume that I'm victim blaming for people who get ripped off; this is just how I personally try to reduce my own ripoff risks. Someday it'll fail, and I know it'll upset me so much when it happens to me, so I do the best I can to delay that day.

I don't like con people even regardless of whether there were signals that should show a person should have used caution. As for me, I believe I have always acted at least reasonably in making purchases. Yet one time I was stiffed. By stiffed, I mean I didn't get any peptides and the vendor didn't make things right. In my case, I believe the vendor probably intended to send me peptides when he took my order. There is a danger in paying with crypto people whose real names we don't know and who live in a foreign country. Veterans here will tell you that seemingly reliable will suddenly turn bad. I'm not trying to scare anyone out of purchasing GLP-1 drugs. I do think it's good to bear in mind that these purchases carry more risk than buying something from WalMart or Amazon.

 

[xguambombx]

Just received my tracking number from Allen for an order placed back on September 23rd. Figured I update you guys.

 

[mrhevia]

I got contacted by Allen asking me if I wanted the products or a refund. I said the products and I just received a tracking number.

 

[Fina44]

Received 9/14 order on Sunday

 

[ZuZuPetals]

So.. Is this forum accepting sponsors who have ripped off members?

It's been made abundantly clear that vendors are not vetted by the forum and that the forum neither recommends or eschews any of them. View the vendors here as you would any ad you see on a city bus. Revenue has to come from somewhere but the transit authority isn't endorsing.

 

[lasveganon]

welp add me to the list of people who have been made whole.

Just received my refund from Allen.

Others in my inbox also reporting their stuff has been delivered.

 

[arent18]

Update:
I received 2 of 4 kits I ordered.
Allen reached out and asked if I wanted a refund or the missing kits re-sent. I told him to send the kits. Unfortunately, they are out of that and he offered to send the same product, different MG. Thing is, I paid for two kits of 20, he offered to send one kit of 40. Cool, but Im out 25USD. I asked him to send a kit of 50 instead. We'll see what happens.

 

[desinr-gal]

It's been made abundantly clear that vendors are not vetted by the forum and that the forum neither recommends or eschews any of them. View the vendors here as you would any ad you see on a city bus. Revenue has to come from somewhere but the transit authority isn't endorsing.

Pre vetting is a different story.. I am talking about not providing product after payment. and I guess in this instance there wasn't a lot of proof, but this forum did ban others for less egregious reasons in the past. Also I misunderstood..I was under the impression that there were more than one person missing their products, and that seemed sketchy to me, if the vendor was still on this forum actively advertising. I have the tendency to believe what people say, which isnt always true.

 

[desinr-gal]

If the forum cancelled the sponsorship of a vendor the first time someone posts something that says the person was ripped off with no support screenshots, then the forum would have few sponsors. Am I saying that the person who claimed he or she was ripped off was lying? No, I don't have much information as to what happened. Also, I don't know about miscommunications between the posting party and the vendor. I'm not asking the aggrieved forum member to post the stuff here, however, if he wanted assistance in dealing with vendor, he probably ought to talk to a moderator. Before cancelling a sponsor, glpforum may want actual proof. Although I don't speak for glpforum, I suspect that if Zippity believed a vendor was ripping people off, Zippity would ban the sponsoring vendor, On one occasion I remember, a forum member complained that that vendor had ripped that person off. It soon became obvious that the person was lying and had never purchased anything from that vendor. That's one instance. I doubt that is the situation here. I do remember reading several posts here where someone claimed that a vendor had ripped the person off and it turned out there was some form of miscommunication. I do note that the complaint appears in this thread, which vendor is not permitted to respond to. Vendors can only respond in the vendor threads. We also don't know whether the vendor is even able to match the username here with the purchaser.

well said. I thought it was a bigger problem than one guy with a dispute. I need to read more carefuly.

 

[keangkong]

Pre vetting is a different story.. I am talking about not providing product after payment. and I guess in this instance there wasn't a lot of proof, but this forum did ban others for less egregious reasons in the past. Also I misunderstood..I was under the impression that there were more than one person missing their products, and that seemed sketchy to me, if the vendor was still on this forum actively advertising. I have the tendency to believe what people say, which isnt always true.

Your belief about other people missing their products is not completely wrong. Many others had recently complained about not getting product with Allen. However, it appears those problems are now getting resolved.