WARNING: ABC Allen has a lot of nerve

[Jfrick11]

As someone who was recently made whole by Allen, I would say to give him some grace. I was super pissed off and figured I was out several hundreds of dollars. I pretty much figured I was taking an "L" on this one and Allen made it right. It took A LOT longer than I anticipated, but at the end of the day I got what I purchased. It beat the alternative 🤷🏽

I’m curious about the advice to “give him grace.” He oversold, underdelivered, and then went dark without any explanation. Yes, he made it right financially for you —over a month later, and not for everyone —and that doesn’t demonstrate how he handles a tough situation with integrity. He eventually w ded up paying you , and that deserves acknowledgment, but not grace. Grace is for someone who maintained integrity and class throughout.

If you choose to buy from him again, just understand this isn’t normal risk—he’s already shown you exactly how he handles a crisis. And in a market like this, that matters.

 

[arent18]

I’m curious about the advice to “give him grace.” He oversold, underdelivered, and then went dark without any explanation. Yes, he made it right financially for you —over a month later, and not for everyone —and that doesn’t demonstrate how he handles a tough situation with integrity. He eventually w ded up paying you , and that deserves acknowledgment, but not grace. Grace is for someone who maintained integrity and class throughout.

If you choose to buy from him again, just understand this isn’t normal risk—he’s already shown you exactly how he handles a crisis. And in a market like this, that matters.

He didn't pay me back. He delivered the product I purchased. If you are on his Telegram, he put a message out in mid September saying that "he was alright, working through some issues and logistics". This was due to the Typhoons in China.

Again, I was pissed because I was told the products I purchased were in the US warehouse. After a while I gave up. I figured it was a complete loss and had my doubts about his "situation". The radio silent was also BS and I would advise against that if avoidable.

Needless to say, he has been refunding several buyers and getting products to people that purchased them quickly in the last week or so. That gave me enough confidence to come here and write what I did.

I hope everyone that ordered receives their product or a refund. I genuinely believe he is trying to make things right.

 

[Rejuvenateme000!]

As someone who was recently made whole by Allen, I would say to give him some grace. I was super pissed off and figured I was out several hundreds of dollars. I pretty much figured I was taking an "L" on this one and Allen made it right. It took A LOT longer than I anticipated, but at the end of the day I got what I purchased. It beat the alternative 🤷🏽

Grace has been given. How can take new orders with shipping and not the overs from a month ago? People who got their orders are quick to have a change of heart and ask for grace. It gives well I got mine he/ she is a great seller". I have already sent the transaction and I got another message asking for it again. I dont know.

 

[Rejuvenateme000!]

It seems that he’s still sorting out previous order issues. His telegram group is back open and not locked down, which is a good sign. There are some in the group saying they placed orders and received shipping a few hours latter.

I plan to place another order to see if he’s gotten better, but only time will tell. I still have faith in him until I officially get burned.

That's the thing no cares unless it happens to them. shame shame. If it ever does, I wouldn't post " well I got mine" to you. I would be disappointed with you. but hey were strangers. People don't care about a lot of things unless it happens to them.

 

[Jfrick11]

He didn't pay me back. He delivered the product I purchased. If you are on his Telegram, he put a message out in mid September saying that "he was alright, working through some issues and logistics". This was due to the Typhoons in China.

Again, I was pissed because I was told the products I purchased were in the US warehouse. After a while I gave up. I figured it was a complete loss and had my doubts about his "situation". The radio silent was also BS and I would advise against that if avoidable.

Needless to say, he has been refunding several buyers and getting products to people that purchased them quickly in the last week or so. That gave me enough confidence to come here and write what I did.

I hope everyone that ordered receives their product or a refund. I genuinely believe he is trying to make things right.

For clarity... He went dark, closed his wallet, stopped responding, locked his telegram topics, long before the typhoon (the typhoon BTW that didn't seem to effect other companies). His issues started before that.
And for me too, he sold me product that didn't exist, even after I was very specific with him about time restraints on my end.
I too hope he continues to make all those he dicked whole. But that does earn him grace in my eyes. Too little too late m. That would have come from communication, explanations and updates about the problems as they were occurring, a humble apology after, and sans the shady behavior during.

 

[randompersonrandom]

That's the thing no cares unless it happens to them. shame shame. If it ever does, I wouldn't post " well I got mine" to you. I would be disappointed with you. but hey were strangers. People don't care about a lot of things unless it happens to them.

It's rough. It's nothing to do with kindness or empathy; we're all simply better off if we decide that strangers or not, we're a unified community and you can't screw any of us without most of us howling for blood. I've heard @Airborne Daddy talk about how it's that way on Meso, and I so approve, because it makes it riskier for a vendor to screw or mistreat one of their members.

 

[KYRivianMan]

He is back and people are buying from him again.

 

[fatty33]

Holy hell. I went to their discord in curiosity, even though I don't need to be looking at new vendors. I'm used to the GYC discord, where it's here's the specials, here's the questions answered, here's the review, here's the testing talk, have a nice day. The Andy's one is...not that. I mean, there's that, but there's also a lot of stuff that absolutely nobody asked for (like soup recipes and a section for pet pics) that I'm nevertheless kinda charmed by.

Edit, ok, this discord is an absolute fever dream. B e e-bear hash browns made with chocolate. What is happening here? View attachment 9053

APS - Announcement

🔊APS discord group has been nucked, I'll post new ones as soon as it is available. Considering that many servers have been hit recently, Please keep APS email address：[email protected] , you can place orders via email...

glp1forum.com

APS posted this.

 

[lasveganon]

Some girl on tiktok who has apparently been in the peptide and group buy space for a long time is on a revenge tour and getting discords nuked the past couple days

 

[randompersonrandom]

APS - Announcement

🔊APS discord group has been nucked, I'll post new ones as soon as it is available. Considering that many servers have been hit recently, Please keep APS email address：[email protected] , you can place orders via email...

glp1forum.com

APS posted this.

It got nuked because we don't deserve it.

 

[xguambombx]

That's the thing no cares unless it happens to them. shame shame. If it ever does, I wouldn't post " well I got mine" to you. I would be disappointed with you. but hey were strangers. People don't care about a lot of things unless it happens to them.

I get where you’re coming from, and I get your perspective . At the end of the day, this whole space operates in the grey. Everything we share is based purely on personal experience.

Have I been burned before by other sources? Absolutely. Do I understand the risks? 100%. I just share my own experience so others can make their own judgment calls.

If he ends up not making things right for people here, I’d stand in solidarity and stop ordering from him but right now, based on what I’m seeing, I plan to test another order just to gauge whether things have actually improved. Like I said before time will tell, and I’ll share my results either way.

 

[arent18]

That's the thing no cares unless it happens to them. shame shame. If it ever does, I wouldn't post " well I got mine" to you. I would be disappointed with you. but hey were strangers. People don't care about a lot of things unless it happens to them.

I didn't intend my post to come off as a "I got mine" post. If you read it that way and I offended you, I apologize. We are all in this together and I truly hope all of you are reimbursed or receive your kits.

 

[keangkong]

That's the thing no cares unless it happens to them. shame shame. If it ever does, I wouldn't post " well I got mine" to you. I would be disappointed with you. but hey were strangers. People don't care about a lot of things unless it happens to them.

Most of the folks who were complaining about Alan a short time ago are not complaining about him. If folks stopped dealing with a vendor as soon as one person had a problem with the vendor, then it would be extremely difficult to buy peptides. It seems that the majority of people who complain about a vendor end up eventually reporting that issue is resolved. While you might want others to boycott the vendor until your issues are resolved, others get to decide what they're going to do. If I believe that a vendor has scammed someone, then I'll avoid that vendor. You could call that solidarity but it's probably more that if the person was willing to scam another person, the person has a good chance of scamming me.

 

[AndyPanda]

Gotta be Philly why not Pittsburgh

I grew up near Pittsburgh and it is way cleaner than Filthydelphia. 😂

 

[lasveganon]

Most of the folks who were complaining about Alan a short time ago are not complaining about him. If folks stopped dealing with a vendor as soon as one person had a problem with the vendor, then it would be extremely difficult to buy peptides. It seems that the majority of people who complain about a vendor end up eventually reporting that issue is resolved. While you might want others to boycott the vendor until your issues are resolved, others get to decide what they're going to do. If I believe that a vendor has scammed someone, then I'll avoid that vendor. You could call that solidarity but it's probably more that if the person was willing to scam another person, the person has a good chance of scamming me.

Yeah I posted the thread as a simple warning for people based on my anger that he hadnt reached out to anyone but somehow still found the time to get online and post that he was resuming sales.

I think to each his own on how they go forward with Allen and not everyone is going to give him grace but for me personally I feel like he really did put the effort and people, including myself, had some decent history with him.