WARNING: AVOID AMINOS RESEARCH AT ALL COSTS!!! DANGER!!!

[Ladylaw]

My guess is that if you were to slap a Tirz label on a vial of his new GLP-1and sent it off for testing as Tirz, it would come back as 99% pure. I think this was a ham-fisted attempt to re-enter the Tirz market.

 

[Revo39564]

The AA sequence should actually be in the patent for it. That's partly why the other manufacturers are able to make it. The patent requires how the molecule is created in the lab, and the AA sequence. Anyone with enough lab equipment can just

The patent for Tirzepatide from Eli Lilly is US9474780. Not going to direct link a source here for it out of a most likely overabundance of caution, but just searching that number will pull up any number of sources showing that full patent. The AA sequence is in there.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/janoshik-analytical-laboratory-testing-services.134405067/page-53#post-3330639

Screenshotting here for those who don't want to click to Meso, Zippity can feel free to remove this screenshot if there are any concerns about it, the link is definitely fine.

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Also the Chinese developed a new method for making tirzepatide that they developed and applied for a patent…..

CN110903355A - Preparation method of Tirzepatide - Google Patents

The invention provides a preparation method of Tirzepatide, which adopts special protective amino acids Boc-Tyr (tBu) -Aib-Glu (OtBu) -Gly-OH and Fmoc-Lys (AEEA-AEEA-gamma Glu (α -OtBu) -Eicoside acid (mon-tBu)) -OH, and solves the problem of low product purity in a large-scale preparation method.

patents.google.com

 

[mostlydamp]

They’re “halting their project indefinitely” so everyone can calm down.

While I agree, I think it needs to be discussed. Someone who would do this is either uneducated or sociopathic. I once made a joke about a crazy vendor being like a Batman villain. Well here we are again, just a different kind of villain. It's worth getting at least sort of worked up about.

 

[Deleted member 1393]

I feel something like this is usually the straw that breaks the camels back, watch people get sick or worse from this. this will bring more restrictions/pressure from pharma to stop the sale of peptides.
damn, how nuts you need to be to inject yourself with a "new peptide" he made in his sink..
and im sure theres people out there wanting this... ugh....

All this followers 🐑 were jumping head first to test his product. I don't understand their obsession with him. It's pretty sickening

 

[moonpies4misfits]

But yeah, looks like my question and yours were answered later on, Janoshik was provided with a reference by AR, and tested it against said reference. As much as Janoshik is a highly, highly valued part of this greater overall community, he is exactly one single part of it: Does provided sample contain what the test request is looking to see if it contains?

I still trust Janoshik, but this definitely brings up another point as to the importance of doing your due diligence - just because it has a COA does not mean it's a safe compound, and I fear that baby peppers (I say that like I'm not just a toddler pepper 🤣) may get a false sense of security just because they saw an accurate fill and high purity on a report.

 

[Deleted member 1393]

Yeah this is super sketch. Peppys has shut down all conversation about it because Brandon funds the site. View attachment 1650

I made a post about it on peps yesterday not to share screenshots but they basically said that they are not supporting him and will protect their platform regardless of he funds or not. They will make some type of post about it at some point. They were deleting all posts from others about the subject

 

[Deleted member 1393]

Please, please do not worry about the product that is now in your hands! I am not here to "endorse" AR but I cannot bear the idea of you now being anxious about your purchase.

Although this latest "new peptide" development is very troubling and absolutely unacceptable, their known-peptide products have maintained an impeccable reputation for quality. Everything has always been tested, always meets purity and quantity standards. A great deal of third-party testing has confirmed their own Janoshik testing. It has NOT all been a ruse. This has been a very good vendor; I have a lot of their product from the "before times," and I won't hesitate to use any of it.

That being said, I will never purchase from them again, because I will not support this new venture that has crossed the line.

His products are standard to what is expected. I don't understand the constant rooting for him and even in his group.

"Omg Brandon, thank you for doing what a business is expected to do and taking my money and delivering my items* 🤦🏻‍♀️

The amount of posts praising him is weird.
I order from other company and they do just fine.

 

[buffaloindierocker]

While I won't be trying this novel peptide anytime soon (folks - it truly is novel, not a blend), it seems the promises that came about from the initial announcement are based not on observations, but educated guesses based on the sequence of AAs and how it compares with the sequence of existing Incretin Mimetics like Sema and Tirz.

We have no idea how exactly this incretin mimetic binds to GLP-1/GIP or any other receptors.

Does it even bind? If it does, does it behave like we want it to? Does it behave more like a liraglutide or dulaglutide, or does it have a nice and long half life like semaglutide? All of these have similar edits on the AA sequence.

Furthermore, when it binds, is it aggressive? Does it have an affinity for any other receptors that could be problematic?

I feel like their language behind the announcement is irresponsible. I feel that anyone who's looking to try this on themselves right out the gate are being irresponsible to themselves.

WITH THAT SAID: This community, for YEARS has hid behind the "Nah these are totally research peptides for my uhhh, Pet Narwhal!" claiming "research" when we know what is really meant. We have seen people use peptides that failed out of trials, have iffy safety profiles, may or may not mess with your endocrine system. We've seen people use peptides as a gateway into DNP and serious PEDs.

I don't think this community can have it both ways. The title of this post is alarmist and unnecessary.

You're using peptides for research? Boom - here's the perfect candidate for research.

You're using peptides for "research?" - then maybe walk away from this one, but you can at least allow it to be discussed because it sure as shit ain't going anywhere.

 

[Deleted member 1393]

I still trust Janoshik, but this definitely brings up another point as to the importance of doing your due diligence - just because it has a COA does not mean it's a safe compound, and I fear that baby peppers (I say that like I'm not just a toddler pepper 🤣) may get a false sense of security just because they saw an accurate fill and high purity on a report.

Jano just does molecular weigh?

 

[geoguy78]

Lmao they probably halted the project indef because Eli Lilly or Novo Nordisk already hold a patent for "Gliptide" and put the smackdown on it already. Pharm companies spam patents on similar chemicals

 

[ZakAP]

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Should probably pick a different name for this concoction... A simple google search shows this name has already been taken.

"Sulglycotide Also known as Gliptide, this non-systemic drug is used to treat gastritis and peptic ulcers."

 

[Deleted member 1393]

I got kicked out of his group lol he went around deleting certain posts that would draw attention with COHR.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

I just joined the group to be nosey and see the comments. He's gone and deleted every single post in the group aside from his new one basically crying about how the "actions of a few" ruined his vibe.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I fear that baby peppers (I say that like I'm not just a toddler pepper 🤣) may get a false sense of security just because they saw an accurate fill and high purity on a report.

(rant incoming, although I think @moonpies4misfits and I are in agreement so please don't take this as directed at you)

Let's not forget that they're not babies, they're grown ass adults injecting mystery powder from overseas dealers whose real names they don't even know. It's important we call it what it is. Even the domestic stuff ultimately tracks back to the above. It's never 100% safe and never will be, that's just not the nature of the situation.

We as a community do these folks a disservice by spoon feeding them reports and sources that feeds their desperation-fueled search for a "safe" alternative to unaffordable pharma sources. People need to take some time to understand the landscape they're venturing into and exercise a little bit of critical thinking. If they don't that is on them, not on the guy who does the testing or even the guy who is trying to make a buck telling you what you want to hear. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

 

[Revo39564]

Chinese filing for patents is an oxymoron.

Well they developed a process to make tirz in kg lots with a purity over 99 percent and low risk of contamination…… they are following the path of Japan from making cheap junk to high quality ……

 

[Deleted member 1393]

Well they developed a process to make tirz in kg lots with a purity over 99 percent and low risk of contamination…… they are following the path of Japan from making cheap junk to high quality ……

But they can't follow a simple testing trial protocol for a new peptide.

 

[Revo39564]

But they can't follow a simple testing trial protocol for a new peptid

But they can't follow a simple testing trial protocol for a new peptide.

They are developing several peptides now in China. It appears Eli Lilly is using the Chinese military and maybe some of their prisoners for testing.

 

[Deleted member 1393]

That doesn't make it any better and so messed up in so many ways. Yet here in the U.S we have this buffoon not even trying.

 

[Revo39564]

That doesn't make it any better and so messed up in so many ways. Yet here in the U.S we have this buffoon not even trying.

Yes not found of the Chinese concentration camps but China makes 100 year plans. One party rule- dictatorship advantage. The Chinese EV capability is amazing…. Have seen the BYD cars and they are very nice … Now China is focusing on pharmaceutical development … and lots of US pharmaceutical companies are there to “help”

 

[MarisWinter]

His products are standard to what is expected. I don't understand the constant rooting for him and even in his group.

"Omg Brandon, thank you for doing what a business is expected to do and taking my money and delivering my items* 🤦🏻‍♀️

The amount of posts praising him is weird.
I order from other company and they do just fine.

The reaction you describe is why I say there is cult-like behavior. What I saw in the fb group and on his CS Channel should be looked at VERRY suspiciously/

 

[MarisWinter]

Woah. The item about the prisons…..please,cite.

 

[buffaloindierocker]

Woah. The item about the prisons…..please,cite.

It would be tough to find anything on Lilly partnering with China to do this, if it even happened at all, but Uyghurs in China have been imprisoned, experimented on, violated horribly, been forced to give their hair for sale, and much more - China has a modern history of some messed up stuff that a lot of people seem to be willing to turn a blind eye to .

 

[Revo39564]

Woah. The item about the prisons…..please,cite.

Woah. The item about the prisons…..please,cite.

Pfizer accused of testing drugs at Chinese Army hospitals by lawmakers

A group of US representatives have sent a public letter to the FDA urging for more information about clinical trials conducted by big pharma in China.

www.dailymail.co.uk

They were congressional hearings last August about this . There is a link in the story for the letter written by the US

 

[Revo39564]

It would be tough to find anything on Lilly partnering with China to do this, if it even happened at all, but Uyghurs in China have been imprisoned, experimented on, violated horribly, been forced to give their hair for sale, and much more - China has a modern history of some messed up stuff that a lot of people seem to be willing to turn a blind eye to .

Bulldozing mosque and forcing muslem men to shave beards. Over a million imprisoned for “re- education “ Slave labor for clothing , etc

 

[Revo39564]

It would be tough to find anything on Lilly partnering with China to do this, if it even happened at all, but Uyghurs in China have been imprisoned, experimented on, violated horribly, been forced to give their hair for sale, and much more - China has a modern history of some messed up stuff that a lot of people seem to be willing to turn a blind eye to .

It would be tough to find anything on Lilly partnering with China to do this, if it even happened at all, but Uyghurs in China have been imprisoned, experimented on, violated horribly, been forced to give their hair for sale, and much more - China has a modern history of some messed up stuff that a lot of people seem to be willing to turn a blind eye to .

US pharmaceutical companies are heavily invested in China. They are going to have a degree of separation from the research subjects. They can always claim ignorance. But of course it is probably true they don’t care enough to know…. Only care about outcomes.

 

[PeptideJedi]

Lmao they probably halted the project indef because Eli Lilly or Novo Nordisk already hold a patent for "Gliptide" and put the smackdown on it already. Pharm companies spam patents on similar chemicals

I believe they hold patent that specific chain and also SIMILAR chains to it ..from what I remember reading in the patent

 

[Tomes]

Wow, just catching up here. This is complete insanity and is just one of the examples of narcissistic and cult-like behavior in this little hobby. At some point, people are going to start getting very hurt or worse.

Regarding what this guy funds / participates in, does he have access to discords as well, or is his involvement "confined" to peppys and FB?

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

Let's go Brandon.

I'm going to try and get some.

 

[mostlydamp]

Why is that Let's Go Brandon? I don't understand what that means in this context. Edit - is that Republican for YOLO?

 

[MagnoliaBanks]

Yeah this is super sketch. Peppys has shut down all conversation about it because Brandon funds the site. View attachment 1650

Which I hate, because I love peppys. And now it’s like double edged sword vibes if we need to discuss how AR’s post and claims made us feel vs oh shit am I going to be deleted if I state how I feel. But the point of peps is for us to discuss our personal experience!