Will the price go down?

[Supremo22]

The price is already going down really quickly. From $330 to $170 for 10mg kit in upcoming GB.

 

[Calm Logic]

The price is already going down really quickly. From $330 to $170 for 10mg kit in upcoming GB.

Of course, I don't know any GBs that ship to the more exotic countries like Australia.

 

[headward]

FYI, a very big frog gb just announced 10mg elora for $170/kit. Shipping probably $15. Endo/mass/purity testing included. But won't receive it for 8-12 weeks. Also doing r30 for $89.

 

[flipperdosan]

The price is already going down really quickly. From $330 to $170 for 10mg kit in upcoming GB.

What is GB?

 

[Supremo22]

GB = group buy

 

[SoCalGirl]

could you pm me the detail ?

That particular GroupBee opens first thing tomorrow - 6/19

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

Yes it will drop, out there about 40% less if you want to buy 50 kits

 

[Rezwalker]

That particular GroupBee opens first thing tomorrow - 6/19

dm me the info please 🙂

 

[HouseCat]

Yes, as other manufacturers enter the scene, prices will definitely drop. But it will be interesting how Changsha actually tests or if they even able to deliver. It won’t be cheap if it’s a scam. I was thinking today, if I get scammed it’s probably this one.

I’m right there with you, crossing my fingers for good Changsha results! My money’s in the slot machine, I pulled the lever and waiting for triple cherries 🍒🍒🍒

 

[Goonwise]

FYI, a very big frog gb just announced 10mg elora for $170/kit. Shipping probably $15. Endo/mass/purity testing included. But won't receive it for 8-12 weeks. Also doing r30 for $89.

Is the R30 from LN as usual or some other vendor? Did El Frog say something in that regard?

 

[FNG33]

Is the R30 from LN as usual or some other vendor? Did El Frog say something in that regard?

unkown for the R.

 

[Grogu]

I’m right there with you, crossing my fingers for good Changsha results! My money’s in the slot machine, I pulled the lever and waiting for triple cherries 🍒🍒🍒

I’m actually hearing more about Changsha than I orginally thought and my level of confidence has been raised from zero to about 50% 😂.

I thought that Changsa had been mostly involved with just one group buy channel, but Changsha has been involved with others. Whether this equates to deliverability on elora, I still have doubts. I also think that with all the buys out there that Changsha may have over extended themselves. But what do I know, I’m not from this home world. As we would say on my home world “Anything about Changsha, I know not.”

 

[Calm Logic]

I was thinking elora was way too expensive to even consider but I sat down and tried to work out how much it would cost compared to cagri which I am currently taking at 0.25 every 4 days, ( as well as tirz4.25/reta 1.5/2days )

At $300 usd per 100mg it is $3 per mg, cagri cost about $100 usd for 50mg or $2/mg

Max dose of elora used in the studies was 9mg , max dose of cagri was 2.4mg , definitely not a precise way of working out relative doses but works out to elora 3.75:1 cagri

So at current dose of 0.5 cagri/w approx equivalent elora dose would be 2mg /week, or $1 usd /week for cagri vs $6 usd/week for elora.

So , a lot more expensive at 6x the price but cheap by any reasonable standard, and not dearer than current tirz/reta dose that is about $10 aud/week. My guess is if it really does have less side effects than cagri, where I cannot really increase doses due to increased nausea, it would be easy to keep bumping up the dose to where it started getting expensive.

I had a lot of trouble finding the full papers for cagri and could only find the abstracts which did not have detailed side effect rates, but what I have seen suggests it has more side effects than elora, and that elora at lower doses at least of 3mg or less has quite low rates of nausea and fatigue, only 10% or so. And possibly has better muscle sparing effects, and higher maximum weight loss effects. And possibly better additional weight loss when added on to reta or tirz. Cagri did not really show much additional weight loss when added on to semaglutide.

elora weight loss 1mg 7-8% 3mg 10-12% 6mg 18% 9mg 20% at 48 weeks weight still going down
compared with cagri phase 1 1.2mg 15% 2.4mg 17%

I still have runway left with reta. But I am tempted with getting elora sooner than later. Though reta is so much cheaper than elora, Gemini favors elora + reta over supraclinical doses of reta:

Feature	12 mg Retatrutide + 6 mg Eloralintide	Supraclinical Retatrutide (15+ mg)
Estimated Weight Loss	~35% or greater	~30–35% (approaching diminishing returns)
Receptor Activity	Balanced multi-pathway (GLP-1, GIP, Glucagon, Amylin)	Extreme Glucagon overdrive
Primary Mechanism	Profound dual-pathway satiety and targeted meal termination	Forced, relentless metabolic burn
Lean Mass Impact	High risk of loss due primarily to severely restricted caloric intake	Severe, forced muscle catabolism regardless of intake
Glycogen Status	Can be maintained with targeted carbohydrate nutrition	Chronic, irreversible depletion from constant hepatic dumping
Cardiovascular Risk	Moderately elevated resting heart rate	High risk of chronic cardiovascular stress and arrhythmias
Primary Bottleneck	Physical inability to consume adequate maintenance calories	Systemic toxicity and physical exhaustion

 

[woundcarping]

I have plenty of runway left with reta. But I am getting tempted, rather than wait for larger kits like E30. Though reta is so much cheaper than elora, Gemini favors elora + reta over supraclinical doses of reta:

I don't know that I'd trust Gemini's assessment... it seems sensational over accurate.

Receptor activity... "Extreme glucagon overdrive" but somehow Reta and Elora is "dual pathway"... pretty sure it has 4 paths.

Primary mechanism for either is assuredly calorie restriction.

Glycogen Status: "Chronic, irreversible depletion..." Really?

Cardio risk: "High risk of chronic cardio stress and arrhythmias".. Really? 12mg is safe but 15mg makes it a high risk?

Primary Bottleneck: "System toxicity and physical exhaustion"... sounds scary...


Sincerely, someone who's been on supraclincal dosing for two+ months and counting.

 

[Calm Logic]

Less chance of overdose with elora than cagri:

CAGRI Overdose???

Let me jump in here, please. Wife's research rat took 3.75mg/ .75ml BAC water Cagri instead of her usual 7.5mg Tirz yesterday. Is now very nauseous and vomiting to point of dry heaves. What dangers should I be monitoring for and what can I do to ease her discomfort. She's the main care giver...

glp1forum.com

Sincerely, someone who's been on supraclincal dosing for over two months and counting.

Do you experience diminishing returns?

 

[woundcarping]

Do you experience diminishing returns?

Well yes, of course.