QSC result just released.
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Gamma662keV
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What garbage!
Have you talken with @Qingdao Sigma ?
hoe much mg you ordered? 5mg?
hoe much mg you ordered? 5mg?
Are you ok?
scurvy-dabbler
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I’m watching this here, Peppys, and the discord. Waiting on Tracy to respond.
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If I'm not mistaken there are one or more vials from this same batch either at or on the way to Jano for testing.
I don't know anything about these Chromate folks, but everything I've seen so far tends to indicate that they have not yet mastered testing GLP-1's accurately.
I don't know anything about these Chromate folks, but everything I've seen so far tends to indicate that they have not yet mastered testing GLP-1's accurately.
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Tracy's response will be classic Tracy. Probably will say if it's not a Jano test he doesn't give a fuck.
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exacly, will have hard time to keep track with all the newbie labs that pop up every week trying to make some pennies from testing, especially that the batch is tested recently by jano. So better save your money.
FourthQuintile
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The Chromate lab doesn't seem to have the best reputation on Meso, and they've only been around on there publicly for less than 6 months time. Much like when looking at or testing a new and previously untested supplier, a new and untested testing service likely needs to have multiple tests that come back with consistent results before we can say their results are accurate and definitive. I recall reading about Jano having some issues at the very early stages, but startup issues are really not that different from any new business. But Chromate started with testosterone oil testing, which seems easier (and is definitely cheaper) than peptide testing, so it seems likely to me that it's not something that is just going to be very accurately nailed down overnight. If it was that simple, I sense we would have a lot more sources for testing (ignoring that there are also seemingly legal issues about operating such a service).
It just stinks because I feel we would all benefit from having an additional high quality testing service so that we aren't all (both buyers and sellers) effectively relying on Janoshik alone. I always dislike when a system has a really glaring single point of possible failure that would hurt the entire rest of the system. But it seems we are still looking for that alternate tester.
It just stinks because I feel we would all benefit from having an additional high quality testing service so that we aren't all (both buyers and sellers) effectively relying on Janoshik alone. I always dislike when a system has a really glaring single point of possible failure that would hurt the entire rest of the system. But it seems we are still looking for that alternate tester.
Freddy
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I know this thread and esp. The manufacture response just lit up some huge red flags for me. To many others to use.
Would you still say QSC's reliable in this case? Im just about to buy from them but am now a bit hesitant. Any other suppliers youd recommend?
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I've purchased from QSC several times in the past year without any problems whatsoever, and know a number of others who have as well.
I still think they're reliable, especially for tirz and sema. Are they perfect? Nope, but neither are 99.9% of the other Chinese suppliers. Every supplier is only as good as their most recent batch that tested well. QSC's consistency has improved a lot in the past year, and even though they've had some screwups along the way they are still a safer bet than most of these new suppliers popping up who nobody has ever heard of and who don't really have enough tests over time (or any tests at all) to prove their products imho. They are also one of the only suppliers who send everything out for testing on their own.
Anyone looking for hand-holding, warm and fuzzy feelings, being called "dear", "sweetie" and "friend", or expecting Amazon-like delivery and customer service should probably shop elsewhere.
Thanks for clearing things up! The reason I ask is because im buying Thymulin and SS31 which arent the usual peptides people go for, and Ive heard that suppliers arent as consistent with less popular peptides. Ill give it a shot and keep you guys posted!
FourthQuintile
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In fairness, the new assistants to Tracy have increased the speed of response noticeably. I emailed for a price list recently and got a response with it in under 3 minutes. I haven't ordered from the Alisa sales agent(s) but they seem a bit disorganized overall. Tracy generally is on top of things as long as not backed up, and the new assistants seem to be limiting any getting backed up. Just don't send "buying steroids gonna get swoll" or "buying tirzepatide gonna get smoll" as your bank transfer comment...
I'm also very encouraged by the new sometimes available group buys, the procedure for them, and the guarantees effectively underwriting free replacement in case of testing that shows either insufficiently high purity or insufficiently high product amount contained. It seems to show a lot of confidence on the part of Tracy and QSC that the products offered in the group buys will test at the high levels promised, because they will be out a fairly significant amount of money if the products test poorly. Also the resulting discounted price and (for many but not all countries) free shipping makes the pricing extremely competitive if not better than most other sources that I've seen, and the track record for QSC is longer than those other sources. Considering the terms of the group buys, just my opinion, but it seems to be about as good of an overall purchase method as exists that I've seen in terms of quality assurance of getting what you've paid for. The only better way of assurance I see is sending one of your own vials to Janoshik on every order.
I've purchased from Tracy probably half a dozen times in the past year myself, and the only major issue was the one time promo offered for free express shipping with guaranteed reship, as many packages (including mine) either got flagged at customs, or got caught up in a shipper strike action, and ended up getting returned. The reship (non-express) came through smoothly without issue. Also, I personally prefer not being called "dear" or "sweetie" as a minor plus of ordering from Tracy; this isn't a family dinner invite, it's a business transaction 😀.
Broken Chef
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Good to know!! I've seen Chromate results on several suppliers sites. Thanks for letting us know this! I'll be looking for suppliers with Jano tests.
dionysos
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Incidence of these testing labs on US Vendor sites is: Janoshik 1st by a large margin, MZBiolabs 2nd, and Chromate a very distant 3rd.
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dionysos
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Is this the complete lab report?
CiciZig69
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My batch of tirz was on point.
Sally-Matilda
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Oh, I rather enjoy being called Dear.... that way I know they really care! ;-)
dionysos
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Yes DEAR, we really, really do care!
When did you send your payment, dear?
SWEETIE! When will you buy more?
😬 😬 😬
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You know they're serious when they double-up on the accolades. "Dear friend" is a surefire way to know you've got them right where you want them! 🤣
Broken Chef
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I like what I'm reading about QSC, and you made a good point about group buys!
I'd like to get a 10mg Sema kit and am wondering what I need to do to get in on a group buy??
I'm watching the QSC supplier thread, a new post today, but no Sema on the list.
I'll keep ordering single vials until I can catch a group buy, but plan to switch to tirz once I plateau, so I'm hoping to get in on this soon... If it's 6 months down the road, a kit might be more than I need. I have no idea how long I'll get by on Sema, but am figuring about a year before I plateau and switch to tirz.
Can you remind me who I contact to order from QSC? I think I did that before but can’t find their contact info.
Barbiedeaux
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This may not be the correct place to post this but I am buying from QSC. I need some help please on how to use Bitcoin. I tried coinbase and I don’t know why I cannot figure this out. Please someone ??
Barbiedeaux
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What form of payment do you use? I need some help figuring this out.
Well, I'm no help. I just chickened out on sending a money transfer via Wise. I made it to the point where I had to connect my chequing account to Wise via something called "Plaid."
It was entering my bank account number *and my password* that I couldn't bring myself to do.
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Plaid is actually trustworthy and used as the intermediary for many banks and services like Quicken, Monarch, Venmo, Coinbase, etc.
But yeah I can see how the process with Wise can seem a little sketchy the first couple of times.
For those trying to wrap their head around using crypto to pay, here is a link to some material created by the mods at PGB that might help familiarize you with the process. It's somewhat specific to PGB but still has some good information. Ironically since setting it up to pay for a PGB purchase, I've already made 2 other non-peptide purchases with crypto and all have gone smoothly. It's just "different", especially for those of us on the mature side of the fence... https://factorygirl202.notion.site/Current-GB-Payment-Guidelines-c9118b2ba2de4769b3821aa6ce830366
But yeah I can see how the process with Wise can seem a little sketchy the first couple of times.
For those trying to wrap their head around using crypto to pay, here is a link to some material created by the mods at PGB that might help familiarize you with the process. It's somewhat specific to PGB but still has some good information. Ironically since setting it up to pay for a PGB purchase, I've already made 2 other non-peptide purchases with crypto and all have gone smoothly. It's just "different", especially for those of us on the mature side of the fence... https://factorygirl202.notion.site/Current-GB-Payment-Guidelines-c9118b2ba2de4769b3821aa6ce830366
I don’t use Coinbase, but I would imagine most apps are the same. There should be a “Send” option. Then you can either scan their QR code or copy-and-paste their crypto address. And then specify the amount to send in your local currency or bitcoin amount.
A bitcoin address looks like this:
1A1zP1eP5QGefi2ZZZZfTL5SLmv7DivfNa (this is a fake address, I put 4 Z’s in the middle)
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FWIW, the common advice lately has been not to send payment directly from a crypto exchange (Coinbase, Binanace, Kraken, etc.) but instead from a self-custody wallet like Exodus. It seems that the exchanges very quickly mark certain wallet addresses as suspicious and either block you from sending or worse a lot of people have had their accounts frozen or cancelled.
Agreed. I moved my bitcoin into BlueWallet. Fees are cheaper. Not that I buy a lot of things with bitcoin.
I promised I would report back to you...I managed to send payment in a way that did not cause me to spend my day with my stomach in knots! I did it through Wise, and took the money from my bank account via an e-transfer. I found it really stressful to consider giving my bank account password to an app, however trustworthy said app might be. I'm not so much worried about the app itself as I am of data breaches...anyway, so far as I know, I have paid up for the QSC sale (one kit of 10mg Tirz and one of 15 mg Reta). Fingers crossed I'm not deluding myself, and all is well. 🙂
CiciZig69
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It depends on supplier.
I sent an email with order information but haven’t heard back.
When did you send it?
Yesterday.
Response times are varied, but they are rarely immediate. Sometimes can be a day or two.
I may need your assistance in purchasing if yours goes well. I'm on in my mature years and are freaked out about bitcoin and bank transfers too.
Barbiedeaux
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Thank you!
AlexDavis43
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It's not always a "send" option. On Kraken, there's a "withdraw" option where you copy/paste the BTC address you were given. It's just as easy, just try to have the funds in there a few days before you attempt a transfer. Sometimes they place a hold.
Can you help me with that? How do you send payment through wise?
How to you know how to send money to QSC through bank transfer? I was asking Tracy about bitcoin but that is intimidating to me and I don’t want to use that as a payment method. I would prefer to use the bank transfer method, but Traci did not provide me with the bank transfer method information. Today is the last day of June and I want to be sure I secure those prices, does anybody have the information for bank transfer?
