DeathI know that reta is still in clinical trials and is not fda approved, but worst case scenario, whats the most harm reta could do to someone if it ends up having an issue.
I’d think freaky cancers are on the table.
EL expanded the number of trials and extended the length of the trials. If there were serious negative indications they would not have done this. It makes sense from their behavior that the side effects are not substantially worse than tirzepatide. It does cost hundreds of millions to do all these trials.I know that reta is still in clinical trials and is not fda approved, but worst case scenario, whats the most harm reta could do to someone if it ends up having an issue.
We laugh so we don’t cry. It’s one of those uncomfortable truths about what we are all doing here, even pharma users. There is no free lunch, we just don’t really know what the other shoe dropping is going to look like (to mix metaphors).I know I shouldn't have laughed at this
I would prefer to believe if not free lunch for some of us on these newer GLP-1 medications, there is at least a free dessert. I've only recently begun with sema, but given that I was approaching death at my starting weight, my results so far feel like a new lease on life. My problem seems to have a genetic component stretching through generations in both directions. Perhaps my "disease" evolved in some earlier age for surviving famines or slavery, but in the current environment it is maladaptive. Although my experience is limited, I'm hoping I've finally found what my body has been lacking all of these years. So yeah, definitely not free, and there are side effects of varying severity, but for most we're still better off than we were. While we still live, it doesn't have to be a zero-sum game.We laugh so we don’t cry. It’s one of those uncomfortable truths about what we are all doing here, even pharma users. There is no free lunch, we just don’t really know what the other shoe dropping is going to look like (to mix metaphors).
Sure, totally agree. There are lots of meds that are a net positive so we take them even with known side effects. I’m just saying that glp1s are pretty new and SO heavily tilted in the positive direction that it’s hard to accept that some presently unknown side effects won’t come along to even things out a bit more. Perhaps that won’t happen and these are indeed a rare class of miracle drug that is all good, almost no bad. That’s what I’ll be hoping for because i take em.I would prefer to believe if not free lunch for some of us on these newer GLP-1 medications, there is at least a free dessert. I've only recently begun with sema, but given that I was approaching death at my starting weight, my results so far feel like a new lease on life. My problem seems to have a genetic component stretching through generations in both directions. Perhaps my "disease" evolved in some earlier age for surviving famines or slavery, but in the current environment it is maladaptive. Although my experience is limited, I'm hoping I've finally found what my body has been lacking all of these years. So yeah, definitely not free, and there are side effects of varying severity, but for most we're still better off than we were. While we still live, it doesn't have to be a zero-sum game.
Apologies if I strayed off- topic.
The other side of this argument would be how taking a "perfect" drug would have potential negative effects.Sure, totally agree. There are lots of meds that are a net positive so we take them even with known side effects. I’m just saying that glp1s are pretty new and SO heavily tilted in the positive direction that it’s hard to accept that some presently unknown side effects won’t come along to even things out a bit more. Perhaps that won’t happen and these are indeed a rare class of miracle drug that is all good, almost no bad. That’s what I’ll be hoping for because i take em.
Eh, smaller doses generally = smaller side effects
However recent info from the trials reveal that there seems to be a coorelation between your current blood pressure and whether or not you will get a rise in heart rate from reta
Low blood pressure = more likely to get heart rate increase
One size definitely doesn't fit all in this arena.
Reta spiked my rate to ~125 after only 2 hrs. after my first dose, and it took 4 weeks after stopping to return to my normal 68-70.
Started Tirz then at 2.5, have advanced to 7.5 every 5 days and and Surv2 3 days later and still normal HR.
Agreed. I take reta too. However, I will not advise anyone that the medicine won't cause death because without the clinical trials having been completed, I can't give a less severe worst case outcome.Death
I would have loved to have tried reta. However, in my case, I have heart issues. Death IS the very worst thing that can likely happen and this is why I, myself, won't touch it.Agreed. I take reta too. However, I will not advise anyone that the medicine won't cause death because without the clinical trials having been completed, I can't give a less severe worst case outcome.