Hospira BAC Availability

[ZippityDooDah]

Anyone buy from peptide.shop ?

$16 for what looks like counterfeit Hospira BAC? No thanks.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Wow, I been away too long and can't believe how much they raised bac water . What a scam. Is there another brand other than Hospira recommended?

As best as I can discern from FDA filings available online, Pfizer/Hospira is the only company producing BAC (that is "FDA-approved" anyway) for the US market.

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

Anyone buy from peptide.shop ?

$16 a vial seems high.

 

[Calm Logic]

I love me some Indian Parma; however, I would be remiss if I didn’t remind people that water in India has some of the dirtiest water on earth. Please be careful. I don’t know any of you personally, but you are my peeps now and while it’s fun to rag on each other sometimes, I do care about your safety.

After reading about it more, I will only use the Indian BAC water as a backup:

Drug-Resistant Bacteria Tied to Products Imported from India

The FDA has long been criticized for lapses in inspections of overseas manufacturing in China and India, which are the two major producers of drugs and raw ingredients for medicines.

www.supplychainbrain.com

Three deaths, eight cases of blindness and dozens of infections have been traced to EzriCare artificial tears, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), leading to a widespread recall this year.

For tablets from India, I try to get ones by Sun Pharma if possible, since they are the most inspected by the FDA it seems, as the fourth largest generic manufacturer in the world.

Another manufacturer I trust is Dr. Reddy, which has contracts with Merck.

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

There were bird dropping, feathers and other animal faces on pain med production line in India recently.

 

[Calm Logic]

I can't find anything about it yet.

Was it one of the small, race-to-the-bottom manufacturers?

 

[roksolidz]

I bought from Ebac last summer. I think their label was white where the common Hospira label is currently black (where the expiration date is). This difference was part of the counterfeit speculation. Apparently (word on the street) was an acceptable (non counterfeit) Hospira bac water possibly sourced from Canada, a practice they may have had to discontinue. They are still around with Hospira looking "generic" water.

I used 3 bottles of the "Canadian" Ebac Hospira w/o issue.

I was on a forum last night and someone there stated they had bought 5vials of Hospira bac water. You're saying these are fake/counterfeit?

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I was on a forum last night and someone there stated they had bought 5vials of Hospira bac water. You're saying these are fake/counterfeit?

There is legitimate Pfizer BAC from Canada that is labeled to comply with the language laws, and because the Hospira brand name was retired in Canada after the Pfizer acquisition in ~2015 they had to remove that branding from the labels so they only bear the Pfizer name and logo.

However there is A LOT of fake "Canadian" BAC showing up on the market lately so it's a huge crapshoot and not worth it IMHO. I covered some of it here: https://glp1forum.com/threads/beware-fake-hospira-bac-water.4162/

P.S. @roksolidz, you're brand new here so follow the rules and quit mentioning vendor names in every single post and spamming threads like this one with that crap.

 

[nonyabizznez]

I was on a forum last night and someone there stated they had bought 5vials of Hospira bac water. You're saying these are fake/counterfeit?

Nope! I did not say that. Plz read the above response☝️then re-read mine above it. 🧐

 

[roksolidz]

Nope! I did not say that. Plz read the above response☝️then re-read mine above it. 🧐

Gotcha...misunderstood. Thank you for clarification.

 

[Omegladon]

I’m still searching over the net for a good reliable source. In the meantime I have unlimited access to Hospira Sterile Water and NaCL water… the torment whenever I see them overflowing in their bins looking just like the Bacteriostatic I need… *sigh.

 

[zpped]

I’m still searching over the net for a good reliable source. In the meantime I have unlimited access to Hospira Sterile Water and NaCL water… the torment whenever I see them overflowing in their bins looking just like the Bacteriostatic I need… *sigh.

sterile water for injection is good for single use. so if you buy kits at your dose and use a vial at a time...

what is NaCL water?

saline

 

[AndyPanda]

I’m still searching over the net for a good reliable source. In the meantime I have unlimited access to Hospira Sterile Water and NaCL water… the torment whenever I see them overflowing in their bins looking just like the Bacteriostatic I need… *sigh.

I’ve mentioned this a few times. I promise this will be the last time I do. 🤣 I’ve used B-Complex ampules to recon. It contains the same amount of BA as BAC, and I have seen some compounding pharmacies combining B-12 with Tirzepatide. I have not seen it with Semaglutide and definitely not Retatrutide because it’s not even FDA approved, so you will need to do research. FWIW, I don’t think the B-Vitamins are much use subcutaneously, but they do not affect the peptide.

 

[Morbius]

That seems like a reasonable alternative.

Looks like you can get veterinary B complex cheap and without a prescription, haha.

 

[hexagonal]

I’m still searching over the net for a good reliable source. In the meantime I have unlimited access to Hospira Sterile Water and NaCL water… the torment whenever I see them overflowing in their bins looking just like the Bacteriostatic I need… *sigh.

You can always just add your own BA to the sterile water, too.

 

[Omegladon]

You can always just add your own BA to the sterile water, too.

I’ve thought about it, I’ve read someone’s post about doing that and others had concerns over it. So unsure how to weigh the inconvenience and risk at the moment.

 

[AndyPanda]

I’ve thought about it, I’ve read someone’s post about doing that and others had concerns over it. So unsure how to weigh the inconvenience and risk at the moment.

I think is relatively safe if you get the right kind of water. McKesson sterile water is cheap and from a “trustworthy” company. I would not recommend using distilled water or saline as I’ve seen mentioned in the past, but people do way riskier things like inject unconfirmed peptides that have only been used on mice in trials. 😝

The process just seems like a lot of work to me. I’ve used sterile water and split vials into a few weeks with no problems.

People do things like smoke, vape, drink excessive alcohol, smoke marijuana, eat processed foods constantly and then judge people for doing things that are objectively benign.

If things get hard enough to find, I guarantee folks would use tap water for these life changing drugs.

 

[Wellwell]

Have we seen any tests popping up for vendor bac yet? I expected we would see people posting tests at this point but I guess not.
I've still got two cases of hospira so I guess I'm good for a while and with the recent test results that were shared about out of date bac still being good for a while I'm not that worried.

 

[Omegladon]

I think is relatively safe if you get the right kind of water. McKesson sterile water is cheap and from a “trustworthy” company. I would not recommend using distilled water or saline as I’ve seen mentioned in the past, but people do way riskier things like inject unconfirmed peptides that have only been used on mice in trials. 😝

The process just seems like a lot of work to me. I’ve used sterile water and split vials into a few weeks with no problems.

People do things like smoke, vape, drink excessive alcohol, smoke marijuana, eat processed foods constantly and then judge people for doing things that are objectively benign.

If things get hard enough to find, I guarantee folks would use tap water for these life changing drugs.

Interesting, I’ve got a lot of work to do already as far as information gathering as I’m kind of new but I’m keeping it on the back burner. For me I have access to hospira sterile water vials, essentially more than I could ever use so it would be great if there was a simple way and sufficiently Safe way of making them work.

 

[hexagonal]

I’ve thought about it, I’ve read someone’s post about doing that and others had concerns over it. So unsure how to weigh the inconvenience and risk at the moment.

I'm not sure what particular risks making your own BAC from sterile water would carry that general reconstitution and injection wouldn't. Follow the same sterility procedures, get the dosing right, and you should be generally fine.

What concerns did people have? I might be missing something, so curious to their reasoning.

 

[Iamnew2this]

I think is relatively safe if you get the right kind of water. McKesson sterile water is cheap and from a “trustworthy” company. I would not recommend using distilled water or saline as I’ve seen mentioned in the past, but people do way riskier things like inject unconfirmed peptides that have only been used on mice in trials. 😝

The process just seems like a lot of work to me. I’ve used sterile water and split vials into a few weeks with no problems.

People do things like smoke, vape, drink excessive alcohol, smoke marijuana, eat processed foods constantly and then judge people for doing things that are objectively benign.

If things get hard enough to find, I guarantee folks would use tap water for these life changing drugs.

It'll be the luck of the draw! 👍

 

[Omegladon]

I'm not sure what particular risks making your own BAC from sterile water would carry that general reconstitution and injection wouldn't. Follow the same sterility procedures, get the dosing right, and you should be generally fine.

What concerns did people have? I might be missing something, so curious to their reasoning.

I just kind of took that impression away without holding on to the specifics, if I find again I’ll be sure to link it here. The things I guess comes to my mind now is just maintaining sterility as I make each vial and the also the bottle of benzyl alcohol I imagine would also be a prime source for potential contamination depending how often I use it and store it.

 

[hexagonal]

I just kind of took that impression away without holding on to the specifics, if I find again I’ll be sure to link it here. The things I guess comes to my mind now is just maintaining sterility as I make each vial and the also the bottle of benzyl alcohol I imagine would also be a prime source for potential contamination depending how often I use it and store it.

If you manage to infect the benzyl alcohol I'd be very impressed.

 

[FlowerFairy]

I think it should work out just fine. The sodium chloride is compatible with all bodily fluids. That's why I think it should work. Hospira is just the golden standard.

But it’s not compatible with all peptides. Tirz yes. Ipamorelin and CJC no. There are others, but I don’t know them all.

I was about to research how to get an NPI sooo I’m THAT person 😂

You apply for it and 2 medical professionals must vouch for you. I’m an RN, had to get one to check for multiple opioid script fills between the “real” script our doc was supposed to be writing.

Even without a license, you can get a NPI on your own as a LLC, but I don't know the finer points and legal details. (Like I don't know if a caregiving company could get one, but I assume so. And there is the paperwork involved, so it would likely only be practical for someone who happens to have such a business.)

They can. All medical facilities have NPI numbers.

 

[FlowerFairy]

I'm dealing with that now with one of the IndiaMart vendors I sent money to. Got price quote for item plus shipping to USA. Sent money. Then it hit me up for more shipping because had to send "DHL" (should have known because most send Indian Air Mail). No comms for a week. Then sends me a EMS tracking number out of China because "we have problems with DHL". Chinese customs gets the package and black balls it sending it back to the shipper. Package never made it out of China. Now Indian seller is saying "We complain. Awaiting supplier response".

We complain? I should complain. If I wanted product from China I would have ordered from China. But at this point the Indian has my money, and I'm in for a pound(ing) now.

IndiaMart is way sketch than SSA or SRY, or even LSPL/AVA for that matter. Use with caution.

Yeah I just got scammed by an IndiaMART vendor trying to buy pens. I’m still sad. I just wanted my pink and green pens!

 

[Iamnew2this]

But it’s not compatible with all peptides. Tirz yes. Ipamorelin and CJC no. There are others, but I don’t know them all.


You apply for it and 2 medical professionals must vouch for you. I’m an RN, had to get one to check for multiple opioid script fills between the “real” script our doc was supposed to be writing.


They can. All medical facilities have NPI numbers.

I've found out that it's also not compatible with reta. I didn't think about the sodium adversely interacting with specific peptides and their make up. Only it's compatibility with human fluids and tissue. Now, CJC and Ipamorelin, as well? That's great to know!👍