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Anyone else started a TRT journey with grey?

Donpablodoc said:
I thought you needed 1-1.5” for adults and .5-1” for kids for IM.
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Depends on the location, your body fat deposits in the area, etc.


I know a lot of people do delts with a 5/8" needle


I just do subq though
 
I ordered Test-C and HCG from PCT.Zone. I'm at 175mg divide into 2 doses per week, sc. The test-c leaves red lump for a few days but doesn't hurt.
 
AndyPanda said:
A three month supply of Test-E 250mg is $25.
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@AndyPanda could you share with me how you get for these prices or actual sources from India or otherwise? I was looking at getting the Depo Test C since it is the branded stuff but indian vendor are quoting like $35.

Also I was looking at Test-C and doing 2x a week subq. Is there a benefit to Test-E instead? Thought it was more expensive usually.
 
Test-E and Test-C are pretty much the same as far as half-life and viscosity. I use Test-E because I find it a little doesn’t seem to drop off like Test-C making feel like crap for a day or two before my next injection. I was ordering from India but the shipping is so disrupted at the moment that I don’t trust it. i will DM you a source.
 
I do both. My NP writes a script for the bare minimum but her bitch boss Dr is constantly reminding me that she may stop it and tell me to see an endocrinologist for my script, so what I do is this. I get a supply from a reputable UGL and use that somewhat liberally and get blood work done independently from the NP and about a month away from getting bloodwork done through the NP I use what she prescribed at a lower dose. With the UGL I use 60 mg on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays but when I use the pharma grade I do 40 mg instead. The micro dosing keeps the estrogen and hematocrit at bay. Doing things this way keeps my t levels on the upper end of the range and middle range when I get my blood work through the NP
 
BigGuy73 said:
I do both. My NP writes a script for the bare minimum but her bitch boss Dr is constantly reminding me that she may stop it and tell me to see an endocrinologist for my script, so what I do is this. I get a supply from a reputable UGL and use that somewhat liberally and get blood work done independently from the NP and about a month away from getting bloodwork done through the NP I use what she prescribed at a lower dose. With the UGL I use 60 mg on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays but when I use the pharma grade I do 40 mg instead. The micro dosing keeps the estrogen and hematocrit at bay. Doing things this way keeps my t levels on the upper end of the range and middle range when I get my blood work through the NP
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Also, this way, I always have a good supply of pharma grade with a script if I need to travel
 
BigGuy73 said:
Yourmuscleshop is #1
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Their last Test Cyp lab is from Apr 2024.

I wouldn't order from these guys at all - there's no reason for test reports to be that old, particularly for such a high volume oil as test c. Product pages should link directly to a test report for the batch being sold, the same way we so frequently demand testing linked in the product lists from the Chinese peptide vendors.

For sourcing, SST/Meso are more reliable and have more honest community interaction than steroidwiki does.

(Though we're also supposed to point people to other places for AAS sourcing discussion on here rather than discuss it ourselves, so we should probably leave this to check one of the other forums previously discussed for continued source discussions)
 
hexagonal said:
Their last Test Cyp lab is from Apr 2024.

I wouldn't order from these guys at all - there's no reason for test reports to be that old, particularly for such a high volume oil as test c. Product pages should link directly to a test report for the batch being sold, the same way we so frequently demand testing linked in the product lists from the Chinese peptide vendors.

For sourcing, SST/Meso are more reliable and have more honest community interaction than steroidwiki does.

(Though we're also supposed to point people to other places for AAS sourcing discussion on here rather than discuss it ourselves, so we should probably leave this to check one of the other forums previously discussed for continued source discussions)
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FWIW I’ve been using their Test C with no problems, it is virtually painless and very smooth. Just as good as pharma gear but cheaper.
 
Mysoph said:
Test results showed I had a pretty low T level (Total 192 ng/dL). For reference, I am a 42 year old male. My general practitioner is good to proceed with TRT using topicals, or refer to an endocrinologist. The cost of this will be very high and not covered well by my insurance. My doctor is fairly OK with testing whatever I ask him to regularly and knows I take a few off-script peptides already, so I don't feel uncomfortable being vague and telling him I am doing this from some telehealth or medspa and keeping it vague so I can still have regular testing.

I am considering trying the grey market Testosterone Cypionate in a micro-dosing regimen, subcutaneously. I am a bit nervous to do this despite having experimented with several other peptides and analogues. Something about exogenous "replacement". Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has had the same thoughts or any experience with this?
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My RS (61 year old). had similar testo numbers in June. Zero experience w/ TRT or any other protocol. Telemed issued clomiphene citrate in tab form. Testo went from 407 to 750 in 45 days (Estradiol also rose which was not desired). I then went to the grey and put my RS on ENclomiphene (it's slightly different - google it) and testo is now 870 and estradiol has decreased to acceptable normal levels. FWIW - YMMV
 
I'm in India. We have Test E easily available at dirt cheap prices. Cypionate, not so much. A 250 mg ampoule costs like 1.1 dollars. With the injection and medicine. My endo started me on 250 mg every 3 weeks. Which is a bad protocol. Should be 100 a week. Better to split into more shots to manage estrogen and estradiol and hematocrit. So for me it's basically do it yourself kind of a thing to learn and figure out. HCG if you still want to have kids in the future. Not necessary. You may want to get tested regularly though to keep a check on your readings. IM or SubQ is always a split vote and you should try both and decide based on reports which one works for you. I would have liked to try Cypionate as well just because of the longer half life and see how it impacted my overall health but I'm starting with Enanthate and hoping that'll be ok as well. I don't know whether the authorities and this forum let's me, but if any of you want this from India, I could try and ship it to you guys at cost. Or you could just ask a local pharmacy here to do that. You'd have to manage the restrictions in your country though.
 
Been taking TRT from grey for a few months now. Seems to have worked great so far for what I wanted, extra energy etc! Remember to take HCG too, and do proper research on dosage etc before buying 😊
 
Since the topic was re-invigorated recently, I suppose it is worth sharing what I did end up doing. I went with a hybrid approach. I used TRT nation for the baseline bloodwork and Rx, received my first vial, but also bought from a grey vendor and from India. My GP won't prescribe injections, but he will draw labs for me. So, from here on out, I am exhausting my grey/India supply, but getting all the requisite testing through my GP.

I feel great and things are working incredibly well. My libido is back (sometimes with a vengeance, lol). I am 43 and am dating a 26 year old. Not that I would recommend that as a rule, nor that my TRT journey made it happen; and I certainly don't want to start a fight with any self-righteous moral purists over the age gap. I just say it as to say 6 months ago I wouldn't have had the drive or stamina to even imagine that scenario a possibility.

Between the GLP and TRT journeys, and better diet and exercise, I have actually been able to lose over 80lbs (in 10 1/2 months), but my lean muscle mass has barely moved. BP and cholesterol are slightly up, but the concerns over those minor elevations are small compared to the rampant inflammation, blood sugar swings, and general complications that come from obesity.

All this to say: Life is good. 🙂
 
Mysoph said:
Since the topic was re-invigorated recently, I suppose it is worth sharing what I did end up doing. I went with a hybrid approach. I used TRT nation for the baseline bloodwork and Rx, received my first vial, but also bought from a grey vendor and from India. My GP won't prescribe injections, but he will draw labs for me. So, from here on out, I am exhausting my grey/India supply, but getting all the requisite testing through my GP.

I feel great and things are working incredibly well. My libido is back (sometimes with a vengeance, lol). I am 43 and am dating a 26 year old. Not that I would recommend that as a rule, nor that my TRT journey made it happen; and I certainly don't want to start a fight with any self-righteous moral purists over the age gap. I just say it as to say 6 months ago I wouldn't have had the drive or stamina to even imagine that scenario a possibility.

Between the GLP and TRT journeys, and better diet and exercise, I have actually been able to lose over 80lbs (in 10 1/2 months), but my lean muscle mass has barely moved. BP and cholesterol are slightly up, but the concerns over those minor elevations are small compared to the rampant inflammation, blood sugar swings, and general complications that come from obesity.

All this to say: Life is good. 🙂
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Are you taking HCG too? I'm trying to find one of these good indian vendors for cheap but legit Test (E or C) and HCG -- would you mind sharing?
 
AndyPanda said:
Test-E and Test-C are pretty much the same as far as half-life and viscosity. I use Test-E because I find it a little doesn’t seem to drop off like Test-C making feel like crap for a day or two before my next injection. I was ordering from India but the shipping is so disrupted at the moment that I don’t trust it. i will DM you a source.
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My RS is looking to research TRT. So many India sources with no real way to interpret ratings and hard to tell who is legit.
 
So, 😆, today I hit a nerve in my thy while injecting test with a 1.5 inch 25 gauge needle, because it’s the leanest part of my body and my entire leg jerked. It hurt like hell. Anyone else ever experience this? Should I be worried
 
I’ve done the same thing get trt through a doctor but get done extra through grey. Anyone ever try ssa’s test? Recently got some because it was $11 so why not
 
AndyPanda said:
So, 😆, today I hit a nerve in my thy while injecting test with a 1.5 inch 25 gauge needle, because it’s the leanest part of my body and my entire leg jerked. It hurt like hell. Anyone else ever experience this? Should I be worried
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No help from me, but that made me clear my message history with a fella about purchasing some of these meds. 😳😬😳 Is this the pain comes before beauty I’ve heard about?
 
BooneDonk said:
No help from me, but that made me clear my message history with a fella about purchasing some of these meds. 😳😬😳 Is this the pain comes before beauty I’ve heard about?
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Maybe. It was such a strange, involuntary feeling. Like being electrocuted or getting a sharp Charley horse. I’ve injected before and bled but this was a new experience. I’ve m still alive though! So, there is that. Lol
 
AndyPanda said:
So, 😆, today I hit a nerve in my thy while injecting test with a 1.5 inch 25 gauge needle, because it’s the leanest part of my body and my entire leg jerked. It hurt like hell. Anyone else ever experience this? Should I be worried
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I’ve had this happen but in my delt, like an involuntary muscle twitch. It was such a weird feeling. Why such a long ass needle though? My husband and I both use 28g 1/2”. He does ventro glute and I rotate delts and glutes.
 
Superchicken1 said:
I’ve had this happen but in my delt, like an involuntary muscle twitch. It was such a weird feeling. Why such a long ass needle though? My husband and I both use 28g 1/2”. He does ventro glute and I rotate delts and glutes.
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I'm not on trt but all my buddies that inject do it in the ventro glute with a 27ga 1/2 inch syringe. Been debating on starting and would definitely do the smallest needle possible instead of a harpoon.

Also, some people even do subq. Guess it depends on the volume and carrier oil?
 
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