I'm in my mid-50s and glad to say that I still have very good hair, and still naturally black in color. Many men my age don't have this, and so I am appreciative of what I have, and want to preserve it.
Very interesting. Anecdotal reports are just that. I did more searching and found many references to rapid weight loss can be a cause, but they seemed to emphasize the importance of protein and the other macros to help prevent it. We definitely know GKU-Cu requires zinc supplementation.
It's probably a culmination of things with your wife. Not the med per say...shocking the system with change...not only weight loss. First thing the body does in any type of * alerted state* is drop what isn't necessary..( if only that was weight.lol). So your wife changed the routine..body said oh shit..and let go of hair..
So much researching! I keep reading about people here and elsewhere adding in 50mg of zinc daily while doing this protocol - but from what I've read that is too much zinc. The overall max is no more than 40mg of zinc a day, and that women need only between 8-15 mg a day. What I've read in the research is either an 8 to 1 ratio or a 4 to 1 ratio of zinc to copper - ghk-cu. For the 8 to 1 ratio 8mg of zinc to 1mg of copper, 12mg zinc to 1.5mg copper, 15mg for 1.75mg copper. Zinc should be taken 2 hours before the injecting the Glow Protocol, and anecdotal research seems to indicate that the Glow Protocol can cause insomnia, so best to do in the AM. Also that zinc and iron supplements should not be taken together. I really don't know if I get enough zinc daily from my food - not a meat eater, etc. Also have severe hypothyroidism and I wonder why my DR has never had me add zinc because those without a well-functioning thyroid don't absorb much zinc anyway. I want to get this right and not overdose on zinc!
Wow...with the thyroid issue that is a bit weird. Definitely something to ask. I didn't do the math like you...just kinda said " well I do eat meat...sooo let's grab a smaller amount " lol
I do see the way you live your life! I'm like that more often than not, but not with these meds - what I do find absolutely astonishing is that my doctor, with whom I've worked on my thyroid and related metabolic issues - never discussed with me (and I wasn't researching like crazy back then and didn't even think to ask) what other vitamins, minerals, etc. I don't absorb with severe hypothyroidism!
I agree with this and thank you for posting the ratios! This is a great example of how even the most "well-known / well-respected" peptide forums (not talking about this one!!!) are rife with misinformation and even downright dangerous info, and everyone needs to do their own research (literally).
That's wild about what the zinc supplement says about taking copper! For me, when it comes to supplements, I don't think more is better. I don't take a multivitamin, only reacted iron with dinner and 50000iu of vitamin D once a week, for three weeks each month, because I don't absorb enough iron or vit d from food because of my thyroid. Planning for the Glow protocol, I've done so much research, and bought a 10mg zinc supplement (not a zinc lozenge) because that's more than enough it seems. And this afternoon, I went through my fridge to see if I could find how much zinc there is in what I eat regularly - no zinc in my Oikos Pro yogurt; no zinc in my cottage cheese, no zinc in the collagen peptides I use, but there is zinc in the eggs I eat (1 hard-boiled egg has 0.53mg of zinc which is 4.8% of the RDA for men and 6.6% RDA for women), and there's a little zinc in the fruits I eat almost every day - strawberries, cherries, raspberries, and some zinc in the flaxseed meal I have almost every day, 2.8mg in one 11 oz premiere protein shake bottle, and 4 mg in one 11.5oz Fairlife protein shake. So really that's probably enough zinc without adding a supplement even taking the ghk-cu. The more you know...
I take a 22mg dose...plus what I eat. Just cover the bases..lol
That's interesting about the 60% bioavailability! Means one doesn't have to worry about immediately overdosing on zinc!
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Thanks for that! I have the multi-peptide calculator bookmarked, but have seen several different dosing protocols. Wasn't sure where to start and have never stacked before.
Hi @Bikechick - I'm trying to see how you got to 10 units. I calculated using 3ml of BAC and the 50mg of GHK-cu as the base, and get 1mg is 6 units, 1.5mg is 9 units, and 1.75mg is 10.5 units. Are you just rounding down to 10 so close to 1.75? And is that where you started - at 1.75mg? Thanks!
From what I've read, researched, and learned from Anela (Glow Protocol founder, I guess), she blends all 3 together in the 3ml vial of GHK-cu - 1.5ml BAC in the BPC-157, 1.5 ml BAC in the TB-500, then draws up both and puts into the GHK-cu vial. There seem to be many protocols - including one that says no need to ever go off - but hers is 6 weeks on - daily, then three weeks off. Her dosing schedule is 1mg at 6 units, 1.5mg at 9 units, and her preferred dose is 1.75mg at 10.5 units. And of course the zinc while on this blend.
Looking that over myself... I'd think you'd need to add different amounts of Bac to each vial in order to get the right dosing as the protocols arent using the same amounts of each peptide. Then put them all in 1 vial.
uh, yeah, that sounds more along the lines of precision dosing.
And she encourages dividing up even the 1mg-6 unit injection into 2 injections of 3 units each - apparently injections with GHK-cu at three or under greatly reduce/eliminate ISRs, and injecting them next to each other, and THEN, and only with these peptides, using a hand massager on the area for 2-5 minutes after injecting. I actually bought a cheap hand massager, and because this is a daily series of injections for the 6 weeks on, I bought a reusable cartridge pen that comes with pen needles and extra cartridges, to use with this protocol, because I'd really like to not have to draw up every day and then inject myself at least 2x each time. At 1.5mg (9 unit) dose that would be 3 injections each time, and I guess 4 with the 1.75mg/10.5 unit injection.
is this a titration schedule, or pick what you want, lol?
I was thinking as you are - doesn't each pep need it's own different amount of BAC before blending together? If you figure that out - let me know. Anela seems to do all together, total 3mg BAC. I bought 2 vials of each from Pacific Wave Peptides - probably overspent. but for this I wasn't interested in the extra expense and need of private testing and chose a reputable domestic provider who provides Janoshik COAs for the batches being sold, both on the website and the COAs were included with my order!
Anela sent me that so I follow her advice. That screenshot is the mix and dose I use
Good grief Charlie Brown!
She uses 1.75mg - but apparently all those dosing schedules are fine - and I'll start with 1mg - 6 units for the first two weeks and see if there's any adverse reactions, and if not, then I'll move to 1.5mg for the next two weeks, and if all is ok, I'll move to 1.75mg for the final 2 weeks. And if that goes well, after the three week break, I'd probably start a second round at 1.75 for six weeks. Am certain I didn't calculate for enough. One set of vials will last 50 days at 6units, but only 33 days at 9 units. So I didn't figure right in the case of 1.75.
It would depend on the dose of each... using equal doses of the BP and TB, and being they are both 10mg, simplifies this. Wasn't planning to include GHK, but why not, at this point, lol
I'm trying to understand - do you use different amounts of BAC for each element? Or simply reconstitute BPC and TB with a certain amount and add to the GHK-CU?
What? I haven't seen that!
