Best pep for building muscle and definition

[Skidude]

For as well studied as it is, Testosterone is tough to find solid guidance on. I recently learned that different countries have different ideas of what the “normal” range is. The US says 300-1,000 is normal, while apparently Europe says 250-836 is normal. Personally, the difference between 836 and 1,000 seems quite substantial to me. This is for men, of course and I suspect SOME of the motivation is to deny TRT to people. I was in the low/normal range, and a few weeks ago I started taking 200mg of Testosterone Enanthate per week. It made a difference pretty quickly. Not packing on muscle, but just overall feels and motivation. The downsides for me have been hunger, water retention, and even though my libido was plenty healthy for a 46 y/o, it has gone through the roof. Once I get my new blood work I may go up. As tempting as it is to blast 500mg a week, I could definitely see it making me want to punch holes in walls.

I do believe it is something I would like to try, but am hesitant to do the self-service route-
Did you go to a clinic or just lab for bloodwork?
If you don't mind me asking.

 

[AndyPanda]

I do believe it is something I would like to try, but am hesitant to do the self-service route-
Did you go to a clinic or just lab for bloodwork?
If you don't mind me asking.

I had blood work done, and then bought and administered the Testosterone myself. The Department of Veterans Affairs will apparently only give TRT if you are super low. It was cheaper for me to just buy it than to use my private insurance. Maybe not the most responsible thing to do, but I feel like I am being pretty conservative with the dose and will get more blood work in about 3 months to be safe. @Airborne Daddy has stronger knowledge on this subject and was a big help to me. MESORX has a lot of information as well. Of course, some of those cats eat Testosterone as a snack, but they are committed to it.

 

[Skidude]

I had blood work done, and then bought and administered the Testosterone myself. The Department of Veterans Affairs will apparently only give TRT if you are super low. It was cheaper for me to just buy it than to use my private insurance. Maybe not the most responsible thing to do, but I feel like I am being pretty conservative with the dose and will get more blood work in about 3 months to be safe. @Airborne Daddy has stronger knowledge on this subject and was a big help to me. MESORX has a lot of information as well. Of course, some of those cats eat Testosterone as a snack, but they are committed to it.

Several years ago, prior to some extended downtime and weight gain, I tested 400. I assume it has reduced since then and I certainly seem to be a good candidate for TRT.
I am reading up and trying to get a better understanding on all the nuance associated with the treatment, but am very interested.

Thanks for your response

 

[hexagonal]

UGL stuff is super cheap and high quality. There are sources in the source forum that also do steroids, but I personally don't feel comfortable ordering them from china. mesorx and steroidsourcetalk have US sources, and are better places to talk about steroid sourcing than here - Zippity doesn't like AAS sourcing talk.

But having a good doc or TRT clinic to help you get dialed in, manage any side effects, etc. is nice. The problem is there are far more uninformed docs and clinics than there are informed ones. Lots of doctors are basing their recommendations off very old protocols and doing stuff like 200mg once every two weeks, so you end up spending a week with very low levels. On the other side, a bunch of the clinics just give you whatever you want without giving a fuck at all about your health, etc.

I'm up to 200mg test e a week and 80mg of deca for joints. I don't respond super well to test so I am still in the reference range on 200mg. I inject twice a week, 100mg/40mg each.

 

[Calm Logic]

some of those cats eat Testosterone as a snack

And as cooking oil or salad dressing.

 

[Rayray]

Wondering where to start here. I’m taking low dose tirz. And I’m 5-10lb within goal weight. So I want to focus more on muscle growth and definition.
Bonus points for a good source recommendation.
Would like to order and get going asap! Thanks!

For context im 43 yrs old. 6'1 and was 270+ lbs after a ton of depression. test levels where down to below 100. bp was 179 over 122. It was bad. Im now about 225-235 and 12% bf .I used tirzepetide along with ostarine and or acp105. Those are on the more mild sarm side of things. Ive recently been using 5amino 1mq and slupp332 . Each one of these addresses unique areas. I do think our of everything i mentioned ostarine even in low doses can really help lean muscle development which supports weight loss. It needs to be said, ostarine is a sarm and can be suppressive on testosterone levels as well as on the kidneys so youd want to have enclo and vitamins like milk thistle and NAC along with it.so i think its important always to get bloodwork done. Slupp332 is not a sarm and its not a peptide but it does work amazing with glps. It supports lean muscle and somehow creates a lot of clean energy for the gym. There is a new compound called bam15.....I have yet to hear from anyone whos actually used it and gotten bloodwork done while useing it. If you are looking for strictly a peptide to stack with your glp...cjc1295 no dac/ipamorelin has proven to be very helpful in building lean muscle and helping to burn fat. If you want a peptide thats just about burning visceral fat; tesamorelin 2mgs a day 5 days on 2 days off for 3 months. Oddly both will have some water retention so youll need to be prepared you may feel like you arent losing the weigh; trust me you will be losing fat. Hope this is helpful