Bodybuilders using Retatrutide

[rmhla]

Hey all,

So recently 2 months ago, I decided to jump back on higher dose Retatrutide while maintaining muscle.
Was low dosed just for the other effects at 2mg weekly.

Im currently using 6mg and experience no muscle lost as a recent dexa scan proved, so my question is how many experience that samething who train for shows etc... what dose did you get up to before noticing muscle loss. Im thinking of moving to 10mg weekly spilt 5mg 2 x week.

Any solid input would be great

Im 6'5
216lbs
11.8% bf
9% visceral

 

[Whiynot20026]

Hey all,

So recently 2 months ago, I decided to jump back on higher dose Retatrutide while maintaining muscle.
Was low dosed just for the other effects at 2mg weekly.

Im currently using 6mg and experience no muscle lost as a recent dexa scan proved, so my question is how many experience that samething who train for shows etc... what dose did you get up to before noticing muscle loss. Im thinking of moving to 10mg weekly spilt 5mg 2 x week.

Any solid input would be great

Im 6'5
216lbs
11.8% bf
9% visceral

Can’t help you but your numbers put a tear in my eye. Thats fantastic. Good luck.

Bill

 

[Elgordoboy]

Hey all,

So recently 2 months ago, I decided to jump back on higher dose Retatrutide while maintaining muscle.
Was low dosed just for the other effects at 2mg weekly.

Im currently using 6mg and experience no muscle lost as a recent dexa scan proved, so my question is how many experience that samething who train for shows etc... what dose did you get up to before noticing muscle loss. Im thinking of moving to 10mg weekly spilt 5mg 2 x week.

Any solid input would be great

Im 6'5
216lbs
11.8% bf
9% visceral

What are you basing your doses on? Meaning why 2mg and 6mg and 10mg? Whats the expectation at each level?

 

[Whiynot20026]

What are you basing your doses on? Meaning why 2mg and 6mg and 10mg? Whats the expectation at each level?

I believe he is basing his numbers on maintaining muscle and losing the most fat together.

Bill

 

[headward]

I'm not a body builder, but resistance train regularly. Have not noticed any muscle loss at all. Being leaner (and eating better) seems to make me stronger, not weaker in my sets. Or at the very least the same strength as before starting reta. And muscles/skeletal structure more visible.

I see a lot of anecdotal stuff on twitter/youtube of bodybuilder types saying they eat whateve they want and don't bloat, stay lean and still hit their max reps or increase, etc. I think studies and/or the thousands of posters online say the same.

I even read once that pro athletes have been taking reta for years, but no way to confirm that. But wouldn't be surprised. I mean if you need to stay in top shape, even during off-season training, it will help imho.

 

[Rezwalker]

thr only way to loose muscle while on glp1 is to not eat at all and be a potato couch like they do in hollywood
simple as that
You can lean bulk on reta easily if you can eat in surplus

If you can eat 2800 cal daily on 6mg reta sinlge pin weekly and low food noise dont titrate up
it make zero sens to go higher unless you want more appetite suppresion

split dosing is bad
i can split 12mg with 3 pin weekly with zero side and almost no appetite suppresion
but a single pin of 6 mg get me going all week and i get all i need
the Spike is everything

 

[Elgordoboy]

I believe he is basing his numbers on maintaining muscle and losing the most fat together.

Bill

That may be his goal but doesn’t address the question

 

[Crowreap]

Hey all,

So recently 2 months ago, I decided to jump back on higher dose Retatrutide while maintaining muscle.
Was low dosed just for the other effects at 2mg weekly.

Im currently using 6mg and experience no muscle lost as a recent dexa scan proved, so my question is how many experience that samething who train for shows etc... what dose did you get up to before noticing muscle loss. Im thinking of moving to 10mg weekly spilt 5mg 2 x week.

Any solid input would be great

Im 6'5
216lbs
11.8% bf
9% visceral

I'm not a bodybuilder, but I am extremely lean right now. I'm 5'9", 124 lbs , and 9% BF, and have been using reta for 9 weeks now, and 2 weeks ago, I added cagri. And ever since I started taking reta, I have not experienced any muscle loss. in your question you asked what dose it takes to lose muscle, I don't think there's necessarily a dose, it's more that if you are on reta and you don't work out and barely eat and sit around all day and not eat protein, then, yes, most likely you will lose muscle. But reta does not cause muscle loss. It is being on reta and losing weight while not training and not eating protein is what will cause muscle loss, or even not being on reta and losing weight while not training and not eating protein is what will cause muscle loss.

 

[5byfive]

What are you trying to accomplish by adding more Reta? You are lean and even if you want to get leaner, you wouldn't have that much to lose. 10mg weekly does not make any since at that level of BF, especially with the goal of adding or even keeping muscle. If your numbers are right, you only have about 25 lbs of total fat on your body. We are talking losing small amount of weight. Less than 9 lbs would get you at 8%. 10mg of Reta isn't for small amounts of weight.

Reta also does not preserve muscle mass in a cut. It helps prioritize burning fat, but if you cut too fast at a low bodyfat, you are still going start losing muscle. Bodybuilders don't max the dose of Reta to try and drop weight as fast as possible. They use it, generally at low doses, it to make cutting easier. They are still running modest deficits.

Also, your numbers don't make sense. Visceral fat is usually about 10% of overall fat. I don't know that it would even be possible to have 11.8% bodyfat and 9% visceral fat. My last dexa was 8.6% bodyfat and I had like .3 lbs of visceral fat.

So the visceral fat numbers don't make sense and you want to beat the hell out of your system to run a ton of Reta at low bodyfat. If you drop 2 lbs of fat a week it will probably kill you in 2 or so months, so at least you have that going for you.

 

[wildweasel]

Hey all,

So recently 2 months ago, I decided to jump back on higher dose Retatrutide while maintaining muscle.
Was low dosed just for the other effects at 2mg weekly.

Im currently using 6mg and experience no muscle lost as a recent dexa scan proved, so my question is how many experience that samething who train for shows etc... what dose did you get up to before noticing muscle loss. Im thinking of moving to 10mg weekly spilt 5mg 2 x week.

Any solid input would be great

Im 6'5
216lbs
11.8% bf
9% visceral

Body fat % 8.4 %
Lean mass 150.5 lbs
Fat mass 14.3 lbs
Visceral fat 0.4 lbs

Reta does not cause fat loss directly. it is indirectly as a result of people running large calorie deficits. it really does seem to be mostly a function of deficit, now how you achieved that deficit. I’ve always found this interesting. 500cal seems to be the tipping point where lean tissue is risked.

 

[Humphries365]

I’m a professional bodybuilder and used reta last year during my contest prep. Instead of reducing my calories, I increased my reta dose by 1mg each week. This resulted in me achieving less than 5% body fat on stage while consuming over 3500 calories daily and never needing to do any cardio. It was the easiest prep I’ve ever done. While everyone else backstage was hungry tired and worn out I felt perfectly fine. Normally I’d be down to 1500 calories with an hour of cardio daily and hating the world. I pushed through the appetite suppression and made more calorie-dense meals. I definitely never lost muscle.

 

[xbigshot123]

I’m a professional bodybuilder and used reta last year during my contest prep. Instead of reducing my calories, I increased my reta dose by 1mg each week. This resulted in me achieving less than 5% body fat on stage while consuming over 3500 calories daily and never needing to do any cardio. It was the easiest prep I’ve ever done. While everyone else backstage was hungry tired and worn out I felt perfectly fine. Normally I’d be down to 1500 calories with an hour of cardio daily and hating the world. I pushed through the appetite suppression and made more calorie-dense meals. I definitely never lost muscle.

Now do the list of other injectables/orals - no judgement, just curious

 

[Humphries365]

400 mg Test, 400 mg primo, 400mg mast weekly Split M/W/F ,25 mcg Proviron daily was the only oral I ran, Because of the Reta I didnt need to use any clen/T3/T4 or winstrol.

 

[Crowreap]

I’m a professional bodybuilder and used reta last year during my contest prep. Instead of reducing my calories, I increased my reta dose by 1mg each week. This resulted in me achieving less than 5% body fat on stage while consuming over 3500 calories daily and never needing to do any cardio. It was the easiest prep I’ve ever done. While everyone else backstage was hungry tired and worn out I felt perfectly fine. Normally I’d be down to 1500 calories with an hour of cardio daily and hating the world. I pushed through the appetite suppression and made more calorie-dense meals. I definitely never lost muscle.

400 mg Test, 400 mg primo, 400mg mast weekly Split M/W/F ,25 mcg Proviron daily was the only oral I ran, Because of the Reta I didnt need to use any clen/T3/T4 or winstrol.

Are you sure it was reta? No way you were consuming 3,500 calories and got to 5% body fat on stage. Are you sure it was reta in that increasing the weekly dosage by 1 mg? It seems kind of unbelievable. I'm pretty sure it was all of that steroid stack you were running. no way a natural person gonna get to 5 percent on just reta while consuming 3500 cals daily.

 

[Llanitox]

Hey all,

So recently 2 months ago, I decided to jump back on higher dose Retatrutide while maintaining muscle.
Was low dosed just for the other effects at 2mg weekly.

Im currently using 6mg and experience no muscle lost as a recent dexa scan proved, so my question is how many experience that samething who train for shows etc... what dose did you get up to before noticing muscle loss. Im thinking of moving to 10mg weekly spilt 5mg 2 x week.

Any solid input would be great

Im 6'5
216lbs
11.8% bf
9% visceral

Im Not a bodybuilder 6ft male weight train 5/6 times a week macros dialed in.

Came off a cycle 3 months ago and as well as PcT started Reta 2mg a week micro dosed. Most I lost was water retention but strength has remained.

My friends a IFBF competitive bodybuilder with numerous awards. He’s on 2mg Reta also as that he’s found is his sweet spot similarly to me.

 

[5byfive]

Are you sure it was reta? No way you were consuming 3,500 calories and got to 5% body fat on stage. Are you sure it was reta in that increasing the weekly dosage by 1 mg? It seems kind of unbelievable. I'm pretty sure it was all of that steroid stack you were running. no way a natural person gonna get to 5 percent on just reta while consuming 3500 cals daily.

Yes, it would be the Reta. The rest is how he maintained the muscle with that kind of deficit but wouldn't have caused the weight loss. Unenhanced, that would have cost him some muscle. I'm a active 164 lbs male and with 3.5mg Tirz and 1mg Reta ans I burn around 3k calories a day and I don't have nearly that kind of muscle. Totally believable he would be eating 3500 calories and losing while on Reta.

 

[BNLFL]

6mg to 10mg is a huge jump.

 

[rmhla]

Thanks everyone 10mg was pondering. Seem im better just to stay where iam at and go over my food intake.
Likely find the answers I need without more reta

 

[rmhla]

What are you trying to accomplish by adding more Reta? You are lean and even if you want to get leaner, you wouldn't have that much to lose. 10mg weekly does not make any since at that level of BF, especially with the goal of adding or even keeping muscle. If your numbers are right, you only have about 25 lbs of total fat on your body. We are talking losing small amount of weight. Less than 9 lbs would get you at 8%. 10mg of Reta isn't for small amounts of weight.

Reta also does not preserve muscle mass in a cut. It helps prioritize burning fat, but if you cut too fast at a low bodyfat, you are still going start losing muscle. Bodybuilders don't max the dose of Reta to try and drop weight as fast as possible. They use it, generally at low doses, it to make cutting easier. They are still running modest deficits.

Also, your numbers don't make sense. Visceral fat is usually about 10% of overall fat. I don't know that it would even be possible to have 11.8% bodyfat and 9% visceral fat. My last dexa was 8.6% bodyfat and I had like .3 lbs of visceral fat.

So the visceral fat numbers don't make sense and you want to beat the hell out of your system to run a ton of Reta at low bodyfat. If you drop 2 lbs of fat a week it will probably kill you in 2 or so months, so at least you have that going for you.

Yes correct you are. Its 9
My apologies

 

[rmhla]

6mg to 10mg is a huge jump.

Wont be doing this. Ill just hold in place move meal time behind an hour and adjust calorie intake. Give it 8 days and see

 

[aepower2016]

Hey all,

So recently 2 months ago, I decided to jump back on higher dose Retatrutide while maintaining muscle.
Was low dosed just for the other effects at 2mg weekly.

Im currently using 6mg and experience no muscle lost as a recent dexa scan proved, so my question is how many experience that samething who train for shows etc... what dose did you get up to before noticing muscle loss. Im thinking of moving to 10mg weekly spilt 5mg 2 x week.

Any solid input would be great

Im 6'5
216lbs
11.8% bf
9% visceral

It's important to note the years of consistent lifting being done. Many anecdotal studies could be from individuals with less than 3 years of consistent weight training who experience no muscle loss. Especially if the only thing being taken is a GLP and are actively in a caloric deficit. Also, how little of a deficit a person is in could help slow down muscles loss or potentially mitigate it in your case. It's really hard to determine if a person is not experiencing muscle loss while on a GLP if they are also taking other things such as tests, HGH/secretagogues or anabolic steroids.

 

[Humphries365]

Are you sure it was reta? No way you were consuming 3,500 calories and got to 5% body fat on stage. Are you sure it was reta in that increasing the weekly dosage by 1 mg? It seems kind of unbelievable. I'm pretty sure it was all of that steroid stack you were running. no way a natural person gonna get to 5 percent on just reta while consuming 3500 cals daily.

Absolutely, it was reta. The plan was to reduce calories weekly while running reta at 4mg per week. However, it was easier to increase reta weekly than reduce calories. Plus, the higher food fuelled more productive gym sessions. I also never needed any harsher compounds while prepping for the shows.

 

[Rezwalker]

Wont be doing this. Ill just hold in place move meal time behind an hour and adjust calorie intake. Give it 8 days and see

Good !
i hit a bricked wall this week with reta
that new R40 vial felt like a R60 ...
feels bad

 

[rmhla]

Good !
i hit a bricked wall this week with reta
that new R40 vial felt like a R60 ...
feels bad

Interesting tell more

 

[Rezwalker]

Interesting tell more

after the new vial of R40 pinned the usual 6mg monday morning
24h later started to felt like the 1 month mark and started to feel a lot of GI issue comming back
nausea/diarrheatrutide/cant eat or drink and the dredded constipation" Couldnt finish my gym session cause i was going at the bathroom every 5 min.
Didnt pin my usually 2.5 tirz late in the week and now it starting to feel better

but all that is kinda shitty while in a cycle
so thats why you still need to be carefull

 

[Crowreap]

Absolutely, it was reta. The plan was to reduce calories weekly while running reta at 4mg per week. However, it was easier to increase reta weekly than reduce calories. Plus, the higher food fuelled more productive gym sessions. I also never needed any harsher compounds while prepping for the shows.

Oh wow, it was reta!?! So are you saying that the more you increase your reta dose, the easier it is to adhere to your weight loss goal? I ask because I inject once a week 1mg and have kept it exactly the same dose for 10 weeks now. So are you saying if I raise the dosage every week to more than 1 MG, then I can eat more and I can lose fat and have really good productive gym sessions? I’m still getting really good appetite suppression and the cancellation of food noise with my 1 mg weekly dose of reta so would increasing dose do something regarding the glucagon effect since that's supposed to be the burning fat component of reta. I’m not sure.

 

[Humphries365]

Oh wow, it was reta!?! So are you saying that the more you increase your reta dose, the easier it is to adhere to your weight loss goal? I ask because I inject once a week 1mg and have kept it exactly the same dose for 10 weeks now. So are you saying if I raise the dosage every week to more than 1 MG, then I can eat more and I can lose fat and have really good productive gym sessions? I’m still getting really good appetite suppression and the cancellation of food noise with my 1 mg weekly dose of reta so would increasing dose do something regarding the glucagon effect since that's supposed to be the burning fat component of reta. I’m not sure.

I’m not telling you what to do but I experimented with reta and it worked. I’ll definitely do it again. I didn’t eat more,I simply didn’t need to adjust my calorie intake throughout the prep. I’ve been on reta for a while and also done an off-season while on it, finishing the bulk with visible abs. The appetite suppression faded long ago and food noise isn’t an issue with six meals a day.

 

[Crowreap]

I’m not telling you what to do but I experimented with reta and it worked. I’ll definitely do it again. I didn’t eat more,I simply didn’t need to adjust my calorie intake throughout the prep. I’ve been on reta for a while and also done an off-season while on it, finishing the bulk with visible abs. The appetite suppression faded long ago and food noise isn’t an issue with six meals a day.

So if you kept your calories exactly the same and increased the reta dosage , you would slowly lose fat overtime?

 

[Humphries365]

So if you kept your calories exactly the same and increased the reta dosage , you would slowly lose fat overtime?

It worked for me. I’m not sure what body fat percentage I had at the start of the prep but I was between 10-15% with visible abs. My training performance remained very high throughout and I never lost any strength. I cycle 10k a day and that’s been the same for the past two years. No additional cardio was added during prep. The only thing I did was increase the dose.

 

[Crowreap]

It worked for me. I’m not sure what body fat percentage I had at the start of the prep but I was between 10-15% with visible abs. My training performance remained very high throughout and I never lost any strength. I cycle 10k a day and that’s been the same for the past two years. No additional cardio was added during prep. The only thing I did was increase the dose.

What was your starting reta dose? And how many weeks did you keep increasing it by 1 mg till you got to 5% bf? and for how long was the prep duration lasting from 10-15% to 5%?

Currently, I weigh 125 lbs, and the bathroom scale, says I am at 9%. I don't know if that's accurate or not, but I am extremely lean. I'm consuming 1,500 calories daily and lifting daily. So ive been thinking about this for awhile now but I wanna conduct an experiment where I increase either the calories or the dosage to see if I can push the fat loss even further.