Cerebrolysin: first cycle

Sara360 said:
I just did my first IM of Ever Pharma Cerebrolysin. Starting at 1ml like @HumanusExMachina. Not going to lie, I was very nervous. I received it last week and was putting it off. The needle is REALLY long (I only used a 1 inch due to losing fat and muscle on Tirz) Really need to do weight training for many reasons! Also nervous knowing this reacts with your brain (which I know I need). Can’t think of random words when talking . Also walking into rooms standing there, “why am I in here, what was I looking for?” Similar to @latviantower. I also have tinnitus. No pain whatsoever (used my thigh). Much easier than expected. Now I’m hoping for some positive results!
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Everything I've looked at says it really starts to kick in around the third day. I started my second cycle 3 weeks ago and I started feeling real effects on day 4.
 
HumanusExMachina said:
Everything I've looked at says it really starts to kick in around the third day. I started my second cycle 3 weeks ago and I started feeling real effects on day 4.
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Good to know! It’s been about 2 months since your last cycle? Did all the benefits leave during that period and that’s why you’re running another? I’ve seen research but nothing on long term use. If you’ve seen that I would love to read it. Very curious about this pep and its benefits and longevity of those
 
Ted R said:
The product circular inside is Ever Pharma but my reading Russian isn't worth a damn!! LOL. It does say made in Austria.
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I found them VEV online but it's about twice as expensive as Nootropicsbase, but my hands are also empty, so there's that.
 
Ted R said:
The product circular inside is Ever Pharma but my reading Russian isn't worth a damn!! LOL. It does say made in Austria.
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You can use Chrome to translate. Go to the app on your phone and click the little camera in the search bar, then point at the package and click "translate". I discovered this recently and it's been so useful for all the stuff I order from overseas.
 
cheaperseeker said:
You can use Chrome to translate. Go to the app on your phone and click the little camera in the search bar, then point at the package and click "translate". I discovered this recently and it's been so useful for all the stuff I order from overseas.
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Brilliant. Didn’t think of that tool.
 
Sara360 said:
Good to know! It’s been about 2 months since your last cycle? Did all the benefits leave during that period and that’s why you’re running another? I’ve seen research but nothing on long term use. If you’ve seen that I would love to read it. Very curious about this pep and its benefits and longevity of those
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I started the 2nd cycle at 9 weeks after the first. I probably should have started around 6 or 7 weeks since I started getting a bit of brain fog at that point.

Anyway, no, the effects didn't all go away. Some faded -- primarily memory and ease of interacting with others -- but most of the effects stuck. The reduced tinnitus, general improvement in mood, along with most of the nootropic effects stayed.
 
HumanusExMachina said:
I started the 2nd cycle at 9 weeks after the first. I probably should have started around 6 or 7 weeks since I started getting a bit of brain fog at that point.

Anyway, no, the effects didn't all go away. Some faded -- primarily memory and ease of interacting with others -- but most of the effects stuck. The reduced tinnitus, general improvement in mood, along with most of the nootropic effects stayed.
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Love to hear that. I’m curious to see if cycling for awhile locks in more of the effects for a longer period
 
This has been interesting reading.
I have an order for ampules going into Uther soon and was a bit nervous...but reading these experiences have helped immensely.
Looking at some dosing charts, it looks like cycles are run IM at 5ml daily...the ampules I am ordering are 10ml ampules...I hate to waste half of every one I crack open, but then again, it weirds me out to inject 10ml at one go...
 
FarmgirlRebel said:
This has been interesting reading.
I have an order for ampules going into Uther soon and was a bit nervous...but reading these experiences have helped immensely.
Looking at some dosing charts, it looks like cycles are run IM at 5ml daily...the ampules I am ordering are 10ml ampules...I hate to waste half of every one I crack open, but then again, it weirds me out to inject Small at one go...
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Are they the actual liquid, amber vials or the 10 mg lyophilized cerebrolysin? Peptide vendors usually don't have the genuine article.
 
FarmgirlRebel said:
This has been interesting reading.
I have an order for ampules going into Uther soon and was a bit nervous...but reading these experiences have helped immensely.
Looking at some dosing charts, it looks like cycles are run IM at 5ml daily...the ampules I am ordering are 10ml ampules...I hate to waste half of every one I crack open, but then again, it weirds me out to inject 10ml at one go...
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You don't have to waste it. Draw the remaining 5 mL into another syringe and use it the next day.
 
Chili777 said:
I found them VEV online but it's about twice as expensive as Nootropicsbase, but my hands are also empty, so there's that.
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I bought the 5 vial pack of 5mL from VEV just to test the waters on fulfillment and paid ~$62.20 USDT shipped. The Nootropicbase is $60 for the same pack plus charges $35 shipping for USPS priority mail.
 
AlexSilver said:
If the real deal comes as a liquid, what the heck is in the lyophilized vials?
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I haven't seen definitive proof as to that question, but I suspect it is an attempt to synthesize the natural protein compound of the naturally derived Cerebro. I suspect it would be pretty expensive to do, but a comparison test of the lyophilized synthesized version vs. the Cerebro in ampules on a LC/MS would be interesting to do.
 
Ted R said:
I bought the 5 vial pack of 5mL from VEV just to test the waters on fulfillment and paid ~$62.20 USDT shipped. The Nootropicbase is $60 for the same pack plus charges $35 shipping for USPS priority mail.
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I was looking at what I bought. Two 10 packs of 5 ml.. if I was looking at the same thing.
 
FarmgirlRebel said:
This has been interesting reading.
I have an order for ampules going into Uther soon and was a bit nervous...but reading these experiences have helped immensely.
Looking at some dosing charts, it looks like cycles are run IM at 5ml daily...the ampules I am ordering are 10ml ampules...I hate to waste half of every one I crack open, but then again, it weirds me out to inject 10ml at one go...
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Did you ask him if it is liquid? Looking at his stuff and it says powder right after the name. I was considering getting that before finding this thread and learning that the liquid is the way to go.
 
Chili777 said:
I was looking at what I bought. Two 10 packs of 5 ml.. if I was looking at the same thing.
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Mine was
Chili777 said:
I was looking at what I bought. Two 10 packs of 5 ml.. if I was looking at the same thing.
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AH. So you got 2 10 packs (20) of 5mL vials. At Nootropicbase that is 255 (220 + 35 shipping) shipped. At VEV that is 4 - 5packs of 5mL vials for $248 shipped (62.14 x 4) with free shipping) so not a lot of price difference. ~$7 less at VEV? Either one would work fine for me if it's the real deal Cerebro and they deliver!
 
Chili777 said:
I was looking at what I bought. Two 10 packs of 5 ml.. if I was looking at the same thing.
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Did your ampules arrive yet or are they still in limbo?
Chili777 said:
I was looking at what I bought. Two 10 packs of 5 ml.. if I was looking at the same thing.
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Chili, did your ampules ever arrive?

I was thinking of purchasing 3 boxes (10x10ml) from China when I make my April purchase and also going through Russia and experimenting. Do one course with China and one course later in the year with Russia and see if I notice anything different.
But I'm not sure if Russia is going to be the way to go if I cannot get the product.
Well it's not that expensive, so I guess that could be part of the experiment, how long it took for each country to deliver as well as efficacy.
 
Ted R said:
Mine was

AH. So you got 2 10 packs (20) of 5mL vials. At Nootropicbase that is 255 (220 + 35 shipping) shipped. At VEV that is 4 - 5packs of 5mL vials for $248 shipped (62.14 x 4) with free shipping) so not a lot of price difference. ~$7 less at VEV? Either one would work fine for me if it's the real deal Cerebro and they deliver!
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I'll have to go look again. I paid $319 and it looked closer to $600 on VEV.

I also checked Uther's price sheet and it looks like 10 vials for $45? One of these is not like the other.
 
FarmgirlRebel said:
Did your ampules arrive yet or are they still in limbo?

Chili, did your ampules ever arrive?

I was thinking of purchasing 3 boxes (10x10ml) from China when I make my April purchase and also going through Russia and experimenting. Do one course with China and one course later in the year with Russia and see if I notice anything different.
But I'm not sure if Russia is going to be the way to go if I cannot get the product.
Well it's not that expensive, so I guess that could be part of the experiment, how long it took for each country to deliver as well as efficacy.
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No, not yet. It's been a month since their holiday was over so I'm going to start sending email.
 
FarmgirlRebel said:
Did your ampules arrive yet or are they still in limbo?

Chili, did your ampules ever arrive?

I was thinking of purchasing 3 boxes (10x10ml) from China when I make my April purchase and also going through Russia and experimenting. Do one course with China and one course later in the year with Russia and see if I notice anything different.
But I'm not sure if Russia is going to be the way to go if I cannot get the product.
Well it's not that expensive, so I guess that could be part of the experiment, how long it took for each country to deliver as well as efficacy.
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I did get mine delivered from Russia. It did take over 2 months but it was around New Years.
 
Tracking finally updated and mine should be delivered today. I had to pay $27 to DHL for duties, though.

It sounds like Russia has some big holiday where the post office is closed for weeks, so probably best to avoid ordering in December and January.
 
I'm really looking forward to researching Cerebrolysin.
I had a pretty severe TBI when I was a child, left me comatose for over a week and had to relearn to walk and tie shoes.
Like many childhood injuries that we pop back from w/o any seeming residual effects, these can often haunt us later as we age. Old broken bones that never bothered us, start to ache and I'm thinking the brain is much the same way.
I do find my memory and brain firing, while better than I was now that I'm on some nootropic peps, still isn't snapping the way it used to...I want to protect my brain and give it as much ammo going forward as possible.
Dementia runs in my family, but really doesn't start raising it's head until late 70s early 80s.
I've got a little time, but not a lot of time.
 
cheaperseeker said:
Tracking finally updated and mine should be delivered today. I had to pay $27 to DHL for duties, though.

It sounds like Russia has some big holiday where the post office is closed for weeks, so probably best to avoid ordering in December and January.
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DHL? The USPS says they are waiting on my package still. The parcels app says it was handed off to Customs on 2/5. So I guess I have no real idea where it is or who has it.
 
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