Do You Filter Your Peptides Before Use?

You are a fat clown, here to attention seek rather to provide information. Here's a study showing that about 25% of vials get contaminated on repeated access:

Now you are calling people fat, on a GLP1 forum where they are trying to improve themselves?
 
Dude, go away. You are a crybaby. You come on here with your limited knowledge and vocabulary and then cry when you get picked on for not being able to properly articulate. Nobody wants to hear you pontificate.
And here I thought he owned stock in a filter selling website from the timing and content of these posts..lol

maybe just a troll?
 
Wearing a mask in public is a sign of submission to propaganda and mental illness. lol
Or just wanting to not spread your germs around because it's a considerate thing to do.

People have been doing it in Japan and Korea for long before it became political or covid-19 related.



Anyway, another reason to consider filtering is that we have fairly good data that suggests that subclinical infections can directly contribute to developing arthritis, e.g. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4131749/

So you might never get a symptomatic infection from unfiltered peptides but you could be increasing your risk of developing RA in the long run.
 
why don't you do your own research when there are numerous easy ways to do it? Since you call yourself a research enthusiast especially. Studies like these are easily found:

Wilson et al. (2000) (Infection Control and Hospital Epidemiology, 2000;21(5):345-348)
Palaria et.al. Journal of Clinical and Diagnostic Research, 2018;12(9) DC01-DC05.

As an FYI, research enthusiast literally means nothing, other than you've been here a while and post. If it meant anything, it would mean I was an expert, and that's clearly not true.

How utterly self important to insult someone based on the functions of a forum you haven't even taken the time to learn.
 
Woah I bet you really wow the kids at parties.

I’m a statistics and science guy who has worked in semiconductor production and bio-pharma production, what have you done?

Let’s break what you said down and what you are implying by linking this study:
- Contamination implies “you are going to have an adverse reaction.” Incorrect on so many levels. Cars can go without an oil change for 30,000 miles and not suffer an adverse reaction. Is that a good idea? No, can you predict each individual responses? No.

- as it’s obvious you don’t really understand statistically relevant versus data, your phone has a HUGE level of contamination, in fact all of our phones probably do (that’s just data). People who have a reaction to this contamination (statistically relevant) is most likely well below 1%, which could be caused by lower immune systems, worse hygiene, already sick, etc.

filters are designed to prevent statistically relevant outcomes that apply to the filtering process (small bacteria/foreign materials existing in the source). Filters are NOT designed to stop re-sticking a vial and the contamination subsequent to that.

The rules of:
- Don’t use BAC water past 30/60 days once punctured
- Don’t use peptides past 30/60 days once reconstituted + punctured
- Clean the cap prior to every stick with alcohol pad

Those rules exist to lower your chance of a statistically relevant event related to contamination which is NORMAL in use.

Many people go well beyond these limits and are just fine, because we make rules based on high risk aversion.

Many fantastic independent studies in this community have been done even on peptide degradation that drastically go over recommended maximum frozen storage levels (2-3 years) proving that risks are relatively low on using product frozen for even 4-5 years. I bet by your thought process there is a 25% chance those people must have keeled over by now
What an obnoxious ass you are. "I’m a statistics and science guy who has worked in semiconductor production and bio-pharma production, what have you done?" - I don't need to appeal to authority or put myself on a pedestal to argue an issue as simple as filtering grey market crud. You would cringe if you learned what I do for a living, but I don't need to talk about myself, just this topic. Rules are bullshit and your wall of text blog is inversely correlated with your lack of knowledge on this topic.
 
That was shockingly bad and weird.

I thought maybe he would remove it when he calmed down. Nope.
a fat clown made a clownish post so I called him on it. You, along with a half dozen reddit-tier morons dogpiled on me for making basic safety suggestions - what do you expect - apologies for me standing up for myself?
 
Dude, go away. You are a crybaby. You come on here with your limited knowledge and vocabulary and then cry when you get picked on for not being able to properly articulate. Nobody wants to hear you pontificate.
You're the crybaby fool. I can see your personality disorder a mile away from this and many other posts you've done. Anybody can see that you live 24/7 on this forum like some pathetic loser. Why do need to seethe and post useless bullshit on everybody elses's post? Are you on your knees wanting to be moderator loser here? Get lost - nobody needs your useless ankle biting commentary - it clutters up and destroys this forum.
 
For sure.

He used ChatGPT to generate some article links. lol.
get lost - you are another pathetic loser with nothing to contribute cluttering up and ruining this forum as a source of information. Do you feel good dog piling onto people for just trying to add useful information? You can't tolerate anyone saying something based on evidence that goes against the tide of NPCs trolling garbage anecdotes dangerously?
 
As an FYI, research enthusiast literally means nothing, other than you've been here a while and post. If it meant anything, it would mean I was an expert, and that's clearly not true.

How utterly self important to insult someone based on the functions of a forum you haven't even taken the time to learn.
So wtf are you doing dogpiling onto me for writing what I thought were useful safety information. Why do you post so often and feel you are contributing something ankle biting onto my posts? Your thousands of posts on this forum, 99% of which are this level of useless noise, should be a shame on you and your life. Get off the forum if you've got nothing to contribute but ankle biting bullshit.
 
That’s a good question. I’ve never been on compounded, or brand name.
I can say that in my dealings with compounding pharmacies as well as weight loss clinics/spas, never once have I seen any usage or mention on filters. I might ask a couple next week just to see how many look at me with deer in the headlight eyes (more on the weight loss clinics/spas than the pharmacies)
 
So wtf are you doing dogpiling onto me for writing what I thought were useful safety information. Why do you post so often and feel you are contributing something ankle biting onto my posts? Your thousands of posts on this forum, 99% of which are this level of useless noise, should be a shame on you and your life. Get off the forum if you've got nothing to contribute but ankle biting bullshit.
What do you plan on accomplishing by being new on a forum and acting so aggressive towards people? I am not saying that you can't have a differing opinion, but calling people names? Name calling is the last vestige of the incompetent. That isn't the quote verbatim, but you get the gist. I have relatives in North Carolina (just outside Raleigh actually) and they are always pissed about something and wanting to fight about something. It doesn't always have to be "either agree with me or I will tear you down like a petulant toddler..." Jesus. Here I was hoping I had finally found a forum when people could discuss ideas and different thought processes like intelligent adults.
 
a fat clown made a clownish post so I called him on it. You, along with a half dozen reddit-tier morons dogpiled on me for making basic safety suggestions - what do you expect - apologies for me standing up for myself?
Be so for fucking real. A few people made jokes and a few sarcastic comments because they feel less strongly than you and you came back by telling Andy he was "seething" (?!) and needed to stop larping as an expert, and then reference a study insisting it's easy to find without linking it, then called someone a fat clown. You're being absurd over a mild disagreement.
 
You're the crybaby fool. I can see your personality disorder a mile away from this and many other posts you've done. Anybody can see that you live 24/7 on this forum like some pathetic loser. Why do need to seethe and post useless bullshit on everybody elses's post? Are you on your knees wanting to be moderator loser here? Get lost - nobody needs your useless ankle biting commentary - it clutters up and destroys this forum.
You seem to dish it out, but you can't eat it. You're entitled to your opinion. Hopefully without the defensive names next time. Like, "fat clown, pathetic loser...." Please choose your adjectives/words wisely next time. We're all losers here and we love it!
 
You, along with a half dozen reddit-tier morons dogpiled on me for making basic safety suggestions
Go away bad dream. I have only made pro-filtering posts.

You seem to have an intense disgust reaction (and/or fear of uncertainty) about bacteria and other pathogens, which happen to be symptoms of OCD.

"Fat clown" seems like a self-hating remark more than anything anyway.

In any case, you need therapy more than a box of filters.
 
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So wtf are you doing dogpiling onto me for writing what I thought were useful safety information. Why do you post so often and feel you are contributing something ankle biting onto my posts? Your thousands of posts on this forum, 99% of which are this level of useless noise, should be a shame on you and your life. Get off the forum if you've got nothing to contribute but ankle biting bullshit.

I didn't 'dogpile' I made one comment explaining that your insult made you look like you had done zero research on the audience here.

You have zero fucking idea what I've done for this community because you're brand new. You posted one reference without a link, what I'm pretty sure is chat gpt responses, and one study you didn't properly understand, meanwhile insulting people who have been here much longer and discussed many of these things at length. A little sarcasm made you fly off the handle and accuse Andy of having a personality disorder? Look in the mirror, honey.

If my presence here irritates you, maybe you should go ahead and put me on ignore. Then you won't see my drivel! Fun fact, you can do that. That's a second function of the forum I suppose you hadn't bothered to figure out yet because you were too busy being hostile over a little sarcasm.

I fucking miss Tracy
 
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Just one example of a good thread about sterility (without the intensity/drama):

 
You're the crybaby fool. I can see your personality disorder a mile away from this and many other posts you've done. Anybody can see that you live 24/7 on this forum like some pathetic loser. Why do need to seethe and post useless bullshit on everybody elses's post? Are you on your knees wanting to be moderator loser here? Get lost - nobody needs your useless ankle biting commentary - it clutters up and destroys this forum.
Nobody wants you here. (I’m sure you are used to hearing that.) You have been here for a few days and now everyone is dumber for having seen your posts. Your poor grammar alone is enough for people to not take you seriously, but the nonsense you regurgitate from the internet takes your idiocy to a whole new level. Be gone!
 
As a recovering intravenous meth addict (sober 19 years). I can assure you, the filter is a waste of money. We used a spoon and pulled off the cotton from a q-tip with our bare fingers as a filter. You'll be just fine. LOL
 
As a recovering intravenous meth addict (sober 19 years). I can assure you, the filter is a waste of money. We used a spoon and pulled off the cotton from a q-tip with our bare fingers as a filter. You'll be just fine. LOL
I would argue this is the opposite extreme and not at all making smart choices, as you now know.

Fun Fact:
Statistically you could play 1000 rounds of Russian roulette and live to tell, or one and done.

Although I do not filter, I did buy all the filter paraphernalia, studied on how to do it, and was prepared to add it to my routine. Although I have not yet done it, I believe that people have to understand the risk exposure of doing this type of self research and have the benefit of many opinions, facts, and anecdotal contributions.

I do follow most other safety protocols and make an attempt to avoid exposing myself to potential issues.
 
I would argue this is the opposite extreme and not at all making smart choices, as you now know.

Fun Fact:
Statistically you could play 1000 rounds of Russian roulette and live to tell, or one and done.

Although I do not filter, I did buy all the filter paraphernalia, studied on how to do it, and was prepared to add it to my routine. Although I have not yet done it, I believe that people have to understand the risk exposure of doing this type of self research and have the benefit of many opinions, facts, and anecdotal contributions.

I do follow most other safety protocols and make an attempt to avoid exposing myself to potential issues.
Well, now that is a little bit of an abuse of statistics. I understand your point, but comparing a filter on a peptide syringe and Russian roulette is kinda the definition of a strawman argument. While dying from Russian roulette is always 1 out of 6 (assuming revolver, etc) each and every time you do it, I am pretty certain the odds of dying from not using a filter on a peptide is a little different. I would go so far as to say that no one in this forum can give accurate safety data on it. I think the take home here is 1. @Augu5+1ne was not hugged enough as a child and 2. Filtering, while always should be a part of best practices, should be implemented at a user level based on their comfort with both the perceived and real drawbacks to not doing it.
 
Well, now that is a little bit of an abuse of statistics. I understand your point, but comparing a filter on a peptide syringe and Russian roulette is kinda the definition of a strawman argument. While dying from Russian roulette is always 1 out of 6 (assuming revolver, etc) each and every time you do it, I am pretty certain the odds of dying from not using a filter on a peptide is a little different. I would go so far as to say that no one in this forum can give accurate safety data on it. I think the take home here is 1. @Augu5+1ne was not hugged enough as a child and 2. Filtering, while always should be a part of best practices, should be implemented at a user level based on their comfort with both the perceived and real drawbacks to not doing it.
I cannot argue your response, but please take another look at my post and see I was comparing Russian roulette to using illicit street drugs with questionable provenance, potentially filled with fentanyl. All the while reconstituting with backwash water bottle, with dirty hands and spoon, and a used needle.
While high as shit in a trap house.

Now that I have done a better job of explaining the problem, would you say the statistical analogy is at least in the realm of comparison, not to mention unadvisable?

as for the rest of your post, I agree completely.

PS:
You may appreciate one of my favorite quotes:
57.6% of all statistics are wrong.
 
I would argue this is the opposite extreme and not at all making smart choices, as you now know.

Fun Fact:
Statistically you could play 1000 rounds of Russian roulette and live to tell, or one and done.

Although I do not filter, I did buy all the filter paraphernalia, studied on how to do it, and was prepared to add it to my routine. Although I have not yet done it, I believe that people have to understand the risk exposure of doing this type of self research and have the benefit of many opinions, facts, and anecdotal contributions.

I do follow most other safety protocols and make an attempt to avoid exposing myself to potential issues.
clearly your sense of humor is broken.
 
clearly your sense of humor is broken.
If you read any of my posts you would know that this was written without malice in an attempt to clear the air as opposed to judge.

I have a great sense of humor.. lol, it just might be reserved for other subject matter with less potential for harm.

However, when we are dealing with health issues, involving novices who potentially will make life changing decisions, based on knowledge obtained here; I feel like it is worth setting the record straight for posterity.

Please accept my apology if my post offended you.
 

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