I picked up Pegasus from the most recent batch. I best go inspect deeper. Now I'm wondering it there are crystals and that is why my first pin was excruciating.
LIPO-C with NAD+
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Can you share the source?
GimmeABreak
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Damn it Bobby!
Just checked the two vials I received about a week ago and both have crystals. The vial I am currently using is fine (but does smell awful and has a mild burn for several hours after inj).
Just checked the two vials I received about a week ago and both have crystals. The vial I am currently using is fine (but does smell awful and has a mild burn for several hours after inj).
I did email Kimera and they did respond quickly: "Your Kimera Chems order #xxx has been refunded". Hopefully they figure out their formulation issue.
I am still looking for something to combat the Tirz fatigue that I get at higher doses.
Question: does the Bioboost+ from Hallandale require a prescription?
I am still looking for something to combat the Tirz fatigue that I get at higher doses.
Question: does the Bioboost+ from Hallandale require a prescription?
GimmeABreak
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Kind of, if you order through the groupon it will take you to a telehealth provider. You fill out a questionnaire with medical history (for potential counter-indications) and they ship to you from Hallendale. Takes about 10 minutes,
Caveat... I am ordering from them tonight. I have zero knowledge of how it is. The ingredients are all the same but the amounts differ. Please do your homework before you buy.
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Carved (20ML)
Carved is Modern Aminos’ special blend of vitamins, amino acids, and antioxidants. All third-party tested to ensure quality, authenticity, and potency.
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GimmeABreak
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Nice find!Caveat... I am ordering from them tonight. I have zero knowledge of how it is. The ingredients are all the same but the amounts differ. Please do your homework before you buy.
Carved (20ML)
Carved is Modern Aminos’ special blend of vitamins, amino acids, and antioxidants. All third-party tested to ensure quality, authenticity, and potency.
I thought it would be good to compare a few of the potential Lipo-C options and created this summary:
I am not sure which B12 is better but the Hallendale Bioboost has a much higher dosage. The lidocaine is kind of nice too. But no NAD+ in Bioboost and the Pegasus needs to solve the crystaization problem,. I am going to try Carved and see if I notice any difference between the other two (which I currently have in my lab).
mathmama81
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Thank you so much for taking the time to make this comparison chart! It's really helpful!
You are the best for doing that! Thank you 💖
By the way.. I did email them and their B12 is Methyl. I would rather have that than the Cyano
GimmeABreak
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You're welcome, I really put together for myself. I found flipping between web sites/pages with the ingredients listed in different order, to be completely confusing.
Valerie
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So you took it with the crystals (?). Hmm wonder what they are from ?
Valerie
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Are those options are you’re supposed to take all of them ?
Valerie
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Have a bad reaction to the product ?
Boosey77
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Carved is Methyl?
One of the reasons besides the NAD+ I wanted to try Pegasus was for the Methyl.
GimmeABreak
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NO! I did not take it with the crystals, I requested a refund/replacement.
I have a vial from an earlier batch and ordered two more (that i received last week). I didn't even open the mailing envelope when I received them until I heard other users reporting crystaizaion.
The batch I am currently using is fine, no crystals.
GimmeABreak
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@yelloeyes Just to clarify, the Carved is Menthyl? I can update my spreadsheet and repost.
Valerie
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@GimmeABreak Yes that’s what I was told as well. The Empower version uses the Methyl. The Hallandale Lipo C has the cyano version.
Both available at defy medical. I tried the Hallendale version.
GimmeABreak
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I didn't understand the difference so I google'd it:
TLDR: Cyano B12 is the cheap stuff and Methyl B12 is good
Enter Google AI:
- Production: CyanoB12 is synthetic, while methylB12 is naturally occurring.
- Body use: The body can convert synthetic forms of vitamin B12 into natural ones. After absorption, the methyl group is removed from methylB12, and the body must re-form it to make it usable.
- Supplements: CyanoB12 is more commonly used in supplements because it's less expensive than other forms of vitamin B12.
- Foods: MethylB12 is found in foods like fish, meat, eggs, and milk
- Health benefits: Both forms of vitamin B12 can help with conditions like B12 deficiency, pernicious anemia, ALS, and neuropathic pain. MethylB12 may also help with sleep quality and circadian rhythm.
Bioavailability: Some research suggests that methylB12 is more bioavailable than cyanoB12, while other research suggests that there's no difference in absorption or bioavailability between the two forms.
Yes, it is. I specifically asked them last night in email as it was not listed. I prefer that to the Cyano.
Yes.. I emailed them last night to ask. Cyano is the cheap stuff. I am really surprised Hallendale uses it.
Boosey77
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Same!!! Bioboost + makes me retain crazy water and gain weight. My Dr thinks it’s because it’s not Methyl but it’s just a guess.
I think I’m going to give Carved a shot as well.
GimmeABreak
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Update on the crystallized Pegasus Lypo-C.
I warmed up one of my vials by putting it the pocket of my sweats for a few hours this afternoon and the crystals are almost all dissolved.
I'll bet you could put it in 100-110 degree water (not submerged) and make it usable (if you dare).
Sous-vide LipoC anyone?
I warmed up one of my vials by putting it the pocket of my sweats for a few hours this afternoon and the crystals are almost all dissolved.
I'll bet you could put it in 100-110 degree water (not submerged) and make it usable (if you dare).
Sous-vide LipoC anyone?
Valerie
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You let us know if you try it … for the sake of research of course 🤣
Valerie
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Here are the ingredients in EMPOWER Lipo-C
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Boosey77
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I went ahead and ordered it - what the hell at this point!! lol
I’m surprised they do too.
Are you going to give it a go?
It gave me serious lumps. They actually refunded me today. They didn’t communicate it though. lol
GimmeABreak
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I may give it a try if ALL of the crystals are gone. My current vial of Pegasus (with no crystals) that I first punctured about two weeks ago STINKS, A little dribble came out of the stopper when I was drawing a dose this morning and I have been smelling it all day. I think it is headed for the trash.
I stil have some Biboost+ left and ordered a vial of Carved today. I will need to wait to see when the Carved is scheduled to arrive and then decide if I pin the Bioboost, Crystal Pegasus or funky stanky Pegasus.
(edited to correct the Lypo-c to the actual name "carved")
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