LIPO-C with NAD+

[GimmeABreak]

I was referring to LipoC blends that have NAD + added to them. Not just regular LipoC.

Kimera Pegasus has NAD+ in it and they instructed cool, dark place.

I just pinned my Carved (LipoC w/NAD+) again today and it is looking even more brown and my injection site is still a little painful to the touch (after 10 hours). Looks like I may need to toss more than half-bottle.

I am starting to think NAD+ sounds good on paper but doesn't mix well with Lipo-C.

I'll see how my Pegasus holds up, I pinned it earlier this week and it was clear with a nice red tint.

 

[Valerie]

Where are you guys getting NAD+ that is already buffered? I've been looking and haven't found any lyophilized powder that specifically says it's buffered. I'd rather it not sting, and I failed Organic Chem lab once, got a C in regular Chem lab, so I am not about to try adjusting pH myself.

 

[Valerie]

AML has buffered NAD

 

[noteablequotable]

Kimera Pegasus has NAD+ in it and they instructed cool, dark place.

I just pinned my Carved (LipoC w/NAD+) again today and it is looking even more brown and my injection site is still a little painful to the touch (after 10 hours). Looks like I may need to toss more than half-bottle.

I am starting to think NAD+ sounds good on paper but doesn't mix well with Lipo-C.

I'll see how my Pegasus holds up, I pinned it earlier this week and it was clear with a nice red tint.

Was your Carved from Modern Aminos? I had the same experience. The stinging lasted basically a full day (though it got better with time.

Not sure if it's the NAD or the lack of lidocaine but I won't be taking it again.

 

[GimmeABreak]

Was your Carved from Modern Aminos? I had the same experience. The stinging lasted basically a full day (though it got better with time.

Not sure if it's the NAD or the lack of lidocaine but I won't be taking it again.

I added lidocaine to my vial at a 1-2% strength it helped last week but this week the burn is back. Not sure, I might try it one more time with a good shake of the vial before drawing the 1ml dose.

 

[yelloeyes]

Was your Carved from Modern Aminos? I had the same experience. The stinging lasted basically a full day (though it got better with time.

Not sure if it's the NAD or the lack of lidocaine but I won't be taking it again.

Wow.. that sucks. Mine doesn't burn?

 

[noteablequotable]

Wow.. that sucks. Mine doesn't burn?

That's good! I'd monitor it to see if that changes over time. I think between the stinging and the different color I'll be avoiding it for now.

 

[okthen]

Crystallization/geling seems to be an ongoing issue with NAD+ that's stored in the refrigerator. Folks that are reconstituting seem to favor storing it in a cool dark location vs refrigeration. Those that are refrigerating are adding more reconstitution liquid to further dilute the NAD+. From everything I have read, aminos do not need to be refrigerated.

 

[GimmeABreak]

Crystallization/geling seems to be an ongoing issue with NAD+ that's stored in the refrigerator. Folks that are reconstituting seem to favor storing it in a cool dark location vs refrigeration. Those that are refrigerating are adding more reconstitution liquid to further dilute the NAD+. From everything I have read, aminos do not need to be refrigerated.

I think you're right. I don't refrigerate my NAD+ or my LipoC.

My current vial of NAD+ is now entering it's 3rd week since reconstituting but I think there is only a shot or two left since I titrated to 100mg. Much longer and I begin to worry about an ISR.

I have LipoC from Hallendale (Bioboost+) and one of their dosage recommendations is .5ml once per week. It is a 10ml vial so it technically should be good for at least 10 weeks.

 

[Sunflower]

Crystallization/geling seems to be an ongoing issue with NAD+ that's stored in the refrigerator. Folks that are reconstituting seem to favor storing it in a cool dark location vs refrigeration. Those that are refrigerating are adding more reconstitution liquid to further dilute the NAD+. From everything I have read, aminos do not need to be refrigerated.

Any tips do decrystalize the sediment NAC at the bottom of the vial? Can I add more BAC water and set the vile in a short jar of hot water, or will that render the NAD ineffective?

Would adding DMSO or PEG400 enhance solubility? I DEFINITELY didn’t want to inject anything other than BAC/ peptides, but this NAC powder is tricky.

I’m experimenting with DMSO and 100mg NAD+ power transdermal in the belly button. This is an Ayurvedic form of absorption, but there is sadly very little data on how to make NAD+ bioavailable.

 

[okthen]

Any tips do decrystalize the sediment NAC at the bottom of the vial? Can I add more BAC water and set the vile in a short jar of hot water, or will that render the NAD ineffective?

Would adding DMSO or PEG400 enhance solubility? I DEFINITELY didn’t want to inject anything other than BAC/ peptides, but this NAC powder is tricky.

I’m experimenting with DMSO and 100mg NAD+ power transdermal in the belly button. This is an Ayurvedic form of absorption, but there is sadly very little data on how to make NAD+ bioavailable.

Unfortunately, I have no tips. I am just recently started my research on NAD+. Hopefully someone with more research experience can weigh in.

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

What is the correct dosage for Lipo C? Is 1ml SQ twice a week ok? Also after opening the vial, do I keep the bottle in the fridge?
Can excess stock of lipo C be frozen?

 

[GimmeABreak]

What is the correct dosage for Lipo C? Is 1ml SQ twice a week ok? Also after opening the vial, do I keep the bottle in the fridge?
Can excess stock of lipo C be frozen?

I pin 1ml 3x week but I am probably overdoing it. I store in a cool, dark place aka a drawer. Do not freeze, it will last a long time as long as you shield it from light.

 

[gabe323]

What is the correct dosage for Lipo C? Is 1ml SQ twice a week ok? Also after opening the vial, do I keep the bottle in the fridge?
Can excess stock of lipo C be frozen?

Cool dark place for storage. I've only done LipoC IM and it's all I've ever read recommended for it.

 

[Boosey77]

Crystallization/geling seems to be an ongoing issue with NAD+ that's stored in the refrigerator. Folks that are reconstituting seem to favor storing it in a cool dark location vs refrigeration. Those that are refrigerating are adding more reconstitution liquid to further dilute the NAD+. From everything I have read, aminos do not need to be refrigerated.

The crystallization I had - that vial never saw the inside of a fridge - at least at my house. The NAD+ I have now - has been in the fridge and is fine. I don’t know if it’s the NAD+ mixed with everything else that causes it? All of that is way above my pay grade

 

[okthen]

The crystallization I had - that vial never saw the inside of a fridge - at least at my house. The NAD+ I have now - has been in the fridge and is fine. I don’t know if it’s the NAD+ mixed with everything else that causes it? All of that is way above my pay grade

If you add enough reconstitution fluid it is a non-issue... At least according to what I have read.

 

[yelloeyes]

I pin 1ml 3x week but I am probably overdoing it. I store in a cool, dark place aka a drawer. Do not freeze, it will last a long time as long as you shield it from light.

I pin .5ml EOD.

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

I pin 1ml 3x week but I am probably overdoing it. I store in a cool, dark place aka a drawer. Do not freeze, it will last a long time as long as you shield it from light.

Tnx for letting me know.

Ppl of the forums; do you find LipoC actually works? If yes in what way exactly? Weight loss? More energy? Less fatigue?

 

[Anita_grey]

I think I'm the one who has brought Pegasus to people's attention. I LOVE IT! It gives me fantastic energy, not jittery, just energized and so very happy. No, I have no crystals in my vials. Nor were my vials dripping or wet or smelly when received - glad to hear Kimera Chems refunded or did whatever needed to be done. I have only ordered once from them, when I bought two vials of Pegasus. No, there is no lidocaine in it. I guess it could be added. I haven't thought to do so, I personally would not bother. Yes, it can sting a tiny bit, but not often for me. If it stings too much, try splitting the dose. Also look up the right way to inject the insulin needle, there is a right way, for all injections, and it eliminates the ouch of the needle, a fact I wish I had discovered months ago. It is hard, I find, to draw out of the vial. Use a larger gauge needle, if necessary. I have kept mine at 31 gauge and am simply patient. With all hard to vent vials, some people use a Vial Spike. You can find it cheap on Nexus Aminos. I have not procured one of those, but those who have seem to love it. Pegasus is dosed like all lipo-cs and Mic-Bs - by the mL/units: Low dosing is 1mL (100 units) weekly. Mid dosing is 1mL (100 units) two times weekly. High dosing is 1mL (100 units) three times weekly. I have never dosed 1mL at a time. I only ever dose at 50 units at a time, and typically 2 or 3x a week. I use my outer thighs. For those just getting into other peptides beyond GLPs, do know that peps such NAD+ and MOTS-C are considered very spicy, meaning stinging. SS31 is considered a bit spicy too, as well as itchy.

So how did it go ?