List of Vendors Pausing Operations (28 October 24')

[MingHenry]

I'm just worried that products I bought on the 18th that only shipped last week won't arrive. It was about $800 worth of stuff. I was going to be done buying for a while after that.

I've gotten US-based tracking numbers from SBB, but nothing at all yet from Sry.

 

[Glp1judd]

So it would make sense to buy buy buy for peps mfg date after 10/28 because they will no doubt be operating above standard. Or you can get in on the fire sale. I do have on hand 23 10mg of Tirz with 20 30mg coming from Angel but I’m the family mule so it might not last as long as one would think.

Funny. I resemble that remark.

 

[Lowkey]

I've been around this underground peptide/steroid industry for nearly 2 decades. The quality companies in china never get shut down. No government can go after them. The chinese government doesn't care and are aware of it. The only vendors I see disappear are those scamming people in one way or another. Whether it be low quality, intentional underdosing, dirty products giving people infections, or straight bunk items. Or some backyard reseller. Mostly in the US or UK. If a chinese provider does get shut down, it isn't because some foreign government entity or company went after them. It's because of something else and they're using this as their excuse. Tirz isn't leaving the market, just like nothing else has when pharma went after them.

Before you start sending me articles and court documents of places that were shut down, re-read this until you understand. Maybe your favorite vendor gets shut down. It's probably a good thing.

 

[noteablequotable]

I've been around this underground peptide/steroid industry for nearly 2 decades. The quality companies in china never get shut down. No government can go after them. The chinese government doesn't care and are aware of it. The only vendors I see disappear are those scamming people in one way or another. Whether it be low quality, intentional underdosing, dirty products giving people infections, or straight bunk items. Or some backyard reseller. Mostly in the US or UK. If a chinese provider does get shut down, it isn't because some foreign government entity or company went after them. It's because of something else and they're using this as their excuse.

Really appreciate your insight. This would actually explain the multiple conflicting stories about the reason for the temporary shut down (it's related to the manufacturing of illegal drugs, it's Lilly, it's because someone sold bad peptides domestically).

I asked my preferred CN vendor whether or not they were being impacted by this, and they basically said they had no clue what I was talking about, and their operations were fine.

 

[Windingroads06]

Most of my knowledge regarding this is with regards to pets. But you'd be shocked how many people give their pet 1 syringe full instead of 1 unit. (So many small animals given a 100x dose of clavamox...) Even when you mark the syringe with a line in sharpie and show it to them directly and explicitly.

Half the people on Reddit can't even figure this out using the peptide calculator.

21% of American adults are considered functionally illiterate. 50% read at or below the 8th grade level. I'm not saying that makes them stupid (public education is a hot topic I don't really want to get into) but I'd expect that 50% to struggle with the math involved here, or to follow directions given with the vials.

You're not wrong on expecting over 50% to struggle with the math.

 

[chmuse]

You're not wrong on expecting over 50% to struggle with the math.

And the thing is often people don't realize they're struggling.

Which is the argument the pharma industry will try to make, I'm sure.

 

[Lowkey]

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And the thing is often people don't realize they're struggling.

Which is the argument the pharma industry will try to make, I'm sure.

I'd say many people reach the "valley of despair", think they're going up the "slope of enlightenment". But it's really the "slope back to Mt Stupid". I noticed that in many loved ones which made me pursue psychiatry. Then quit after my second year of med school once learning you ethically can't be a therapist to friends and family without ruining your relationships. Those loved ones are on a endless cycle up and down this mountain, riding the self-help scam.

 

[chmuse]

I'd say many people reach the "valley of despair", think they're going up the "slope of enlightenment". But it's really the "slope back to Mt Stupid". I noticed that in many loved ones which made me pursue psychiatry. Then quit after my second year of med school once learning you ethically can't be a therapist to friends and family without ruining your relationships. Those loved ones are on a endless cycle up and down this mountain, riding the self-help scam.

Good on you for even making it to med school though, that's a lot of work to even get accepted. I don't like not knowing how things work, so psychiatry scares me. "Well, this medicine raises the level of serotonin, we aren't quite sure why or how it does that, but it works! Sometimes. Here, let's try it and see if it helps your depression or makes you manic. Woops, turns out you're bipolar, my bad!" I wouldn't want that responsibility.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Most of my knowledge regarding this is with regards to pets. But you'd be shocked how many people give their pet 1 syringe full instead of 1 unit. (So many small animals given a 100x dose of clavamox...) Even when you mark the syringe with a line in sharpie and show it to them directly and explicitly.

Half the people on Reddit can't even figure this out using the peptide calculator.

21% of American adults are considered functionally illiterate. 50% read at or below the 8th grade level. I'm not saying that makes them stupid (public education is a hot topic I don't really want to get into) but I'd expect that 50% to struggle with the math involved here, or to follow directions given with the vials.

Very well said