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Goreandglitter said:
I was on 5mg, tried 7.5 one week then went to 10.. no suppression, alll the food noise, no side effects at all (i generally get nausea, anxiety, acid reflux). Nada …. So I pulled out a vial I had from my last order did 10 and I got all the side effects and zero appetite… it’s definitely this particular batch.. which I feel confident isn’t even tirz I am super constipated (I go the other direction) and my hair is growing super fast so there’s that 😂

I’m currently sourcing other vendors I’m talking to one that’s been around 2 years and is highly rated on chemical book ..a 10mg kit is $89 and $25 shipping so solid pricing. Will probably order next week.
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Can you give a name?
 
Julep784 said:
I just ordered from another source this morning (desperation) and was sent a picture of shipping label (US domestic) within 45 mins. Should get Monday at the latest I think. 10x15mg $350 and testing with Janoshik 99% pure.
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Great Peptides? If it is, I ordered last week. Sent Monday and received the next day from US warehouse.
 
Heard back from Cora from Henan. She said 15 day shipping was from the day shipped. So 8 days to ship plus 15 days once shipped = 23 days to arrive (we will see) but for $20 more ordering with shipping domestic, not dealing with Henan again I don’t think. I’ll pay the extra $20.
 
Julep784 said:
Heard back from Cora from Henan. She said 15 day shipping was from the day shipped. So 8 days to ship plus 15 days once shipped = 23 days to arrive (we will see) but for $20 more ordering with shipping domestic, not dealing with Henan again I don’t think. I’ll pay the extra $20.
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I’m thinking the same thing.
 
ADoll said:
Great Peptides? If it is, I ordered last week. Sent Monday and received the next day from US warehouse.
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I don’t believe HT has a US warehouse. The tracking number you received will start updating once the package hits the states from China.
 
Peacedog said:
I don’t believe HT has a US warehouse. The tracking number you received will start updating once the package hits the states from China.
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I know, I got a tracking number already, it took them 8 days to actually ship from China and once I got tracking number it’s been an additional 8 days and it hasn’t gotten to the US yet.
 
CiciZig69 said:
Impatient Americans? I think we might be.
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Somewhat lol. I just made a post about this on one of the Discord servers. Sometimes I think that we'd be better off without and tracking at all. It causes so much unnecessary anxiety and frustration for people, especially those who have little or no experience purchasing from most of these suppliers.

I try to remind people of a few important points regarding purchasing our hobby-related products from overseas:
  1. This is not like buying from Amazon. You need to adjust and temper your expectations or else you are setting yourself up for needless anxiety and frustration.
  2. Regardless of how nice and helpful the reps seem, they are well-trained in getting Americans to buy their products and are not your friend; it's 100% a profit transaction for them.
  3. Shipping our products from China to the US and Canada require the packages to take one or more circuitous routes which often result in unexpected delays. Air cargo has limitations both in space and scheduling, and there will be times when your order could very well sit in a container at an airport somewhere in the far east for several days. The supplier and their 3PL (Third-Party Logistics) provider have no control over this, and the supplier rarely has the ability to get any detailed information especially if the containers have passed between multiple 3PL companies.
  4. The USPS tracking numbers that reps provide is often completely useless until the package is physically in the hands of USPS. The 3PL providers that the suppliers use to get packages to us have the ability to "update" (or manipulate) the tracking information if/when it's convenient or they want to make it seem like the package is moving (often when it isn't). Just because a tracking number was generated shortly after you paid, that label isn't actually going to get put on your package until after the cargo has cleared customs and been delivered (by truck, rail, or both) to the 3PL warehouse in the US for sorting, labeling, and distribution.
  5. Never expect 7-10 day delivery, even if the rep "promises" it or you've received other orders in that time frame. Sometimes you may have to wait up to 6 weeks, especially if there are Chinese holidays on the calendar, if there are major events bringing any kind of attention on China/US relations, or if there's been unusual border activity like a recent big fentanyl bust or such that could disrupt the flow of cargo.
  6. The best way to avoid getting upset is to sign up for USPS Informed Delivery and just wait for the notification that your package is out for delivery.
  7. The USPS has it's own set of issues, so sometimes they will be the cause of additional delays, etc. It's disturbingly common to see packages take a nonsensical route around the US, tracking to stop updating for several days (I've even seen 2-3 weeks) and then have the package show up in your mailbox, or be marked as delivered when it's still sitting in the mail truck or at the post office. This is a USPS problem and while many suppliers are willing to re-ship in the case of a lost/seized package you need to be patient if they ask you to wait a couple of weeks or so to see if the package does eventually get delivered. 95% of the time, being patient eventually pays off.
  8. If you were fortunate enough to pay with a "protected" method such as card/PayPal/etc., don't be in such a rush to file a dispute. Remember that doing so is one of the main factors that causes those kind of payment methods to become unavailable to us, especially since all credit cards allow for at least 60 days to file a dispute, most are 90 days or more, and PayPal allows up to 180 days. Any of those time frames provides plenty of time for missing deliveries to show up or for suppliers to get a re-ship to you.

If all else fails, buying from domestic vendors or Chinese suppliers with stock in US warehouses will always be much faster and for many can be well worth the added expense to avoid anxiety.

Final words: Don't lie to yourself. You are buying grey-market products from overseas that could have questionable legality. Think of it like buying pills from a dealer on the street; expecting guarantees and refunds will lead to great disappointment, and maybe worse. I'd rather be out a few hundred bucks and take it as an important life lesson rather than some of the alternatives.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Somewhat lol. I just made a post about this on one of the Discord servers. Sometimes I think that we'd be better off without and tracking at all. It causes so much unnecessary anxiety and frustration for people, especially those who have little or no experience purchasing from most of these suppliers.

I try to remind people of a few important points regarding purchasing our hobby-related products from overseas:
  1. This is not like buying from Amazon. You need to adjust and temper your expectations or else you are setting yourself up for needless anxiety and frustration.
  2. Regardless of how nice and helpful the reps seem, they are well-trained in getting Americans to buy their products and are not your friend; it's 100% a profit transaction for them.
  3. Shipping our products from China to the US and Canada require the packages to take one or more circuitous routes which often result in unexpected delays. Air cargo has limitations both in space and scheduling, and there will be times when your order could very well sit in a container at an airport somewhere in the far east for several days. The supplier and their 3PL (Third-Party Logistics) provider have no control over this, and the supplier rarely has the ability to get any detailed information especially if the containers have passed between multiple 3PL companies.
  4. The USPS tracking numbers that reps provide is often completely useless until the package is physically in the hands of USPS. The 3PL providers that the suppliers use to get packages to us have the ability to "update" (or manipulate) the tracking information if/when it's convenient or they want to make it seem like the package is moving (often when it isn't). Just because a tracking number was generated shortly after you paid, that label isn't actually going to get put on your package until after the cargo has cleared customs and been delivered (by truck, rail, or both) to the 3PL warehouse in the US for sorting, labeling, and distribution.
  5. Never expect 7-10 day delivery, even if the rep "promises" it or you've received other orders in that time frame. Sometimes you may have to wait up to 6 weeks, especially if there are Chinese holidays on the calendar, if there are major events bringing any kind of attention on China/US relations, or if there's been unusual border activity like a recent big fentanyl bust or such that could disrupt the flow of cargo.
  6. The best way to avoid getting upset is to sign up for USPS Informed Delivery and just wait for the notification that your package is out for delivery.
  7. The USPS has it's own set of issues, so sometimes they will be the cause of additional delays, etc. It's disturbingly common to see packages take a nonsensical route around the US, tracking to stop updating for several days (I've even seen 2-3 weeks) and then have the package show up in your mailbox, or be marked as delivered when it's still sitting in the mail truck or at the post office. This is a USPS problem and while many suppliers are willing to re-ship in the case of a lost/seized package you need to be patient if they ask you to wait a couple of weeks or so to see if the package does eventually get delivered. 95% of the time, being patient eventually pays off.
  8. If you were fortunate enough to pay with a "protected" method such as card/PayPal/etc., don't be in such a rush to file a dispute. Remember that doing so is one of the main factors that causes those kind of payment methods to become unavailable to us, especially since all credit cards allow for at least 60 days to file a dispute, most are 90 days or more, and PayPal allows up to 180 days. Any of those time frames provides plenty of time for missing deliveries to show up or for suppliers to get a re-ship to you.

If all else fails, buying from domestic vendors or Chinese suppliers with stock in US warehouses will always be much faster and for many can be well worth the added expense to avoid anxiety.

Final words: Don't lie to yourself. You are buying grey-market products from overseas that could have questionable legality. Think of it like buying pills from a dealer on the street; expecting guarantees and refunds will lead to great disappointment, and maybe worse. I'd rather be out a few hundred bucks and take it as an important life lesson rather than some of the alternatives.
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So true, all of this. I just really like to believe that some vendors overseas have earned a good reputation for a reason. With X gone, a lot of us are starting all over. Posts like yours will help a lot of people 🙂
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Somewhat lol. I just made a post about this on one of the Discord servers. Sometimes I think that we'd be better off without and tracking at all. It causes so much unnecessary anxiety and frustration for people, especially those who have little or no experience purchasing from most of these suppliers.

I try to remind people of a few important points regarding purchasing our hobby-related products from overseas:
  1. This is not like buying from Amazon. You need to adjust and temper your expectations or else you are setting yourself up for needless anxiety and frustration.
  2. Regardless of how nice and helpful the reps seem, they are well-trained in getting Americans to buy their products and are not your friend; it's 100% a profit transaction for them.
  3. Shipping our products from China to the US and Canada require the packages to take one or more circuitous routes which often result in unexpected delays. Air cargo has limitations both in space and scheduling, and there will be times when your order could very well sit in a container at an airport somewhere in the far east for several days. The supplier and their 3PL (Third-Party Logistics) provider have no control over this, and the supplier rarely has the ability to get any detailed information especially if the containers have passed between multiple 3PL companies.
  4. The USPS tracking numbers that reps provide is often completely useless until the package is physically in the hands of USPS. The 3PL providers that the suppliers use to get packages to us have the ability to "update" (or manipulate) the tracking information if/when it's convenient or they want to make it seem like the package is moving (often when it isn't). Just because a tracking number was generated shortly after you paid, that label isn't actually going to get put on your package until after the cargo has cleared customs and been delivered (by truck, rail, or both) to the 3PL warehouse in the US for sorting, labeling, and distribution.
  5. Never expect 7-10 day delivery, even if the rep "promises" it or you've received other orders in that time frame. Sometimes you may have to wait up to 6 weeks, especially if there are Chinese holidays on the calendar, if there are major events bringing any kind of attention on China/US relations, or if there's been unusual border activity like a recent big fentanyl bust or such that could disrupt the flow of cargo.
  6. The best way to avoid getting upset is to sign up for USPS Informed Delivery and just wait for the notification that your package is out for delivery.
  7. The USPS has it's own set of issues, so sometimes they will be the cause of additional delays, etc. It's disturbingly common to see packages take a nonsensical route around the US, tracking to stop updating for several days (I've even seen 2-3 weeks) and then have the package show up in your mailbox, or be marked as delivered when it's still sitting in the mail truck or at the post office. This is a USPS problem and while many suppliers are willing to re-ship in the case of a lost/seized package you need to be patient if they ask you to wait a couple of weeks or so to see if the package does eventually get delivered. 95% of the time, being patient eventually pays off.
  8. If you were fortunate enough to pay with a "protected" method such as card/PayPal/etc., don't be in such a rush to file a dispute. Remember that doing so is one of the main factors that causes those kind of payment methods to become unavailable to us, especially since all credit cards allow for at least 60 days to file a dispute, most are 90 days or more, and PayPal allows up to 180 days. Any of those time frames provides plenty of time for missing deliveries to show up or for suppliers to get a re-ship to you.

If all else fails, buying from domestic vendors or Chinese suppliers with stock in US warehouses will always be much faster and for many can be well worth the added expense to avoid anxiety.

Final words: Don't lie to yourself. You are buying grey-market products from overseas that could have questionable legality. Think of it like buying pills from a dealer on the street; expecting guarantees and refunds will lead to great disappointment, and maybe worse. I'd rather be out a few hundred bucks and take it as an important life lesson rather than some of the alternatives.
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Well said. The important part is the up front work before purchasing. If you do well there, don’t worry, just sit back and wait.
 
Julep784 said:
So true, all of this. I just really like to believe that some vendors overseas have earned a good reputation for a reason. With X gone, a lot of us are starting all over. Posts like yours will help a lot of people 🙂
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There's definitely some companies that adapt better than others. The whole XCE/CA thing worked well I believe due to the two Peters being based in Hong Kong instead of mainland China and just having a better overall feel and approach to doing business with the west. In my experience that's more the exception than the rule, but hopefully more vendors will learn to emulate their approach.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
There's definitely some companies that adapt better than others. The whole XCE/CA thing worked well I believe due to the two Peters being based in Hong Kong instead of mainland China and just having a better overall feel and approach to doing business with the west. In my experience that's more the exception than the rule, but hopefully more vendors will learn to emulate their approach.
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Tracy seems to be getting better. Still seems like he reverts to gaslighting if there is an issue but I have had no issues with them.
But I got ghosted but another vendor after asking the wrong questions.
 
Letits Now said:
Tracy seems to be getting better. Still seems like he reverts to gaslighting if there is an issue but I have had no issues with them.
But I got ghosted but another vendor after asking the wrong questions.
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I suspect Tracy and I would get along pretty well in person lol. 😎 I appreciate people who are straight-forward without sugar-coating anything, and who call out BS when they see it.

He's definitely gotten better at dealing with issues that come up, and having assistants seems to have helped a lot. Of course realizing that the GLP-1 customer base is very different from the AAS crowd and adapting to that will only continue to help him make a lot more money.

I know a lot of people have strong opinions about him and/or QSC, and some of the public arguments do get way out-of-hand at times. Compared to a lot of the competition out there, for me QSC has shown improving consistency over the past year or so and I believe people have something like a 95% chance of getting what they paid for. The other 5%, well shit happens and it's unfortunate, but we're not buying coffee from Starbucks.
 
I'm on my 2nd week of HT. First week 7.5mg and food noise so I moved up. Food noise is still at 10mg 2nd day. With X it was suppressed at 7.5, but had nausea the 1st 2 or 3 days.
 
Got orders from Henan and Guruite (Great Peptide) yesterday. Guruite 10x15mg purple lids and it looked packed in vials a little funny maybe it had been upside down. Henan 10x15mg turquoise lids.

Anyway, decided to start with Guruite. I had taken 7.5 of X sat night (last of supply) and I’m on 10mg so took 2.5mg last night to complete dose. My husband let me have the last of X the past two weeks so he had been off a bit- he took 5mg.

This morning hit us hard. All the normal effects. Slight nausea, no hunger, all of it. So these vials seem to be good so far.
 
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I got my henan 10x30 mg vials in yesterday from my April 25 order via mila. Reconstituted with 3 ml of bac water yesterday and used 5 mg last night. Haven’t used tirz in over a year when I was on mounjaro so maybe it’s a factor but it seems that the medicine was effective so far. Hunger suppression and light nausea.
 
Eakimodad said:
I got my henan 10x30 mg vials in yesterday from my April 25 order via mila. Reconstituted with 3 ml of bac water yesterday and used 5 mg last night. Haven’t used tirz in over a year when I was on mounjaro so maybe it’s a factor but it seems that the medicine was effective so far. Hunger suppression and light nausea.
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This is good! Guruite feels exact same as X to me and my husband.
 
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Julep784 said:
Got orders from Henan and Guruite (Great Peptide) yesterday. Guruite 10x15mg purple lids and it looked packed in vials a little funny maybe it had been upside down. Henan 10x15mg turquoise lids.

Anyway, decided to start with Henan. I had taken 7.5 of X sat night (last of supply) and I’m on 10mg so took 2.5mg last night to complete dose. My husband let me have the last of X the past two weeks so he had been off a bit- he took 5mg.

This morning hit us hard. All the normal effects. Slight nausea, no hunger, all of it. So these vials seem to be good so far.
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Very interested in the great peptide. Post again when you start
 
Peacedog said:
I don’t believe HT has a US warehouse. The tracking number you received will start updating once the package hits the states from China.
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They got to have a US warehouse, because mine started in the USA.
 
WoodenCake said:
Did u send for testing first. Idk why im so scared to inject.
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No. I was also wrong. Guruite was what feels the same as X. My husband told me we took Henan batch and it was actually Guruite. Took 10mg henan last night and it feels like I took nothing.

UPDATE: Henan just didn’t give me nausea like I’m used to. My husband has full appetite suppression and all the side effects. I’ve been ice cold the last few days and good appetite suppression. I was wrong and would order from H again if shipping didn’t take so long
 
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Julep784 said:
No. I was also wrong. Guruite was what feels the same as X. My husband told me we took Henan batch and it was actually Guruite. Took 10mg henan last night and it feels like I took nothing.

@Goreandglitter - did you dispute with Cora or Alibaba? I think henan is bunk as well.
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Oh no, that sucks!
 
Reading all of these comments about people having bad luck with Henan makes me worried to order from them again. My batch was good (or at least the vial that we used). I need to try another vial from the batch to see how it is, but I'm still not sure I want to take a chance with them again and risk getting a bum product. Uuuuugh.
 
Julep784 said:
No. I was also wrong. Guruite was what feels the same as X. My husband told me we took Henan batch and it was actually Guruite. Took 10mg henan last night and it feels like I took nothing.

@Goreandglitter - did you dispute with Cora or Alibaba? I think henan is bunk as well.
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Who did you use at Guruite? I guess I'll look into them for my next order. I think it's between them and QSC right now.
 
faetal said:
Who did you use at Guruite? I guess I'll look into them for my next order. I think it's between them and QSC right now.
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I am new to this forum. First time buying, 10mg tirzepatide from Hannah Henan tengmao. Took about about 2 weeks. Haven't tried it yet. Fast, easy communication, would recommend. Today, I just purchased 1 bx 15mg tirz and 1 bx reta from guruite, Jerry, says I will receive Fri may 17 in USPS tracking. Again, fast, easy and clear communication, both accept cc payment through alibaba. In the past I used qsc Tracy, now Irene, but they no longer accept cc payments. I'm not comfortable doing bank transfer, so I found this forum/peppy to find new convenient distributor. I still have some qsc vials and will update with effects from both.
 
I ordered from Cora/HT April 24. I am still waiting on My order. Anyone with experience with Cora and product. I hope I am not being overly worried. I miss Peter!
 
faetal said:
Reading all of these comments about people having bad luck with Henan makes me worried to order from them again. My batch was good (or at least the vial that we used). I need to try another vial from the batch to see how it is, but I'm still not sure I want to take a chance with them again and risk getting a bum product. Uuuuugh.
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Read update on my post, for us H turned out to be good.
 
Barbiedeaux said:
I ordered from Cora/HT April 24. I am still waiting on My order. Anyone with experience with Cora and product. I hope I am not being overly worried. I miss Peter!
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I ordered from Cora it took forever to arrive. Ordered 4/17 and it arrived 5/6.
 
Julep784 said:
I ordered from Cora it took forever to arrive. Ordered 4/17 and it arrived 5/6.
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How did it work for you? I will definitely post how the product works after I try mine. I am curious. It appears some are happy and others are not so much. I will continue to research. Thank you for your reply. Hopefully I will receive my order soon!
 
Barbiedeaux said:
How did it work for you? I will definitely post how the product works after I try mine. I am curious. It appears some are happy and others are not so much. I will continue to research. Thank you for your reply. Hopefully I will receive my order soon!
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I updated my post above. It worked for both myself and my husband. No nausea which I was used to but probably because I’m used to dose. My husband has all the effects. I have good appetite suppression and haven’t been this cold in a long time lol
 
Peacedog said:
That doesn’t seem so bad. Those timeframes were what I expected. Cora said it would take up to 2 weeks to ship, and then another week in transit.
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She told me I would receive my order in 14 days and I’m used to other sources shipping much quicker. This was the slowest shipping I’ve had to date.
 
Julep784 said:
She told me I would receive my order in 14 days and I’m used to other sources shipping much quicker. This was the slowest shipping I’ve had to date.
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There was a stretch last year where shipments coming from any of the Chinese suppliers was taking 4-6 weeks minimum. The past several months we've all become a bit spoiled by pretty decent shipping times, but lately it's been taking longer regardless of the supplier as there have been a variety of disruptions on some of the logistics routes.

When reps give you a shipping estimate, they're going off of information from their logistics providers of average delivery times for the past month or two, and really don't have any knowledge or control over how long it will actually take. Take two identical shipments to the same address, one shipped last week might take 7 days to arrive and one shipped this week could take 30 days to arrive.

Ordering from China requires a certain amount of patience and being prepared for the unexpected. It's not really anybody's fault, it just is what it is.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Ordering from China requires a certain amount of patience and being prepared for the unexpected. It's not really anybody's fault, it just is what it is.
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I sent a Mother's Day card to my mom over a week ago, to a town 60 miles from me, and she still hasn't received it. Shipping times for anything can be unpredictable, and aren't the fault of the supplier.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
There was a stretch last year where shipments coming from any of the Chinese suppliers was taking 4-6 weeks minimum. The past several months we've all become a bit spoiled by pretty decent shipping times, but lately it's been taking longer regardless of the supplier as there have been a variety of disruptions on some of the logistics routes.

When reps give you a shipping estimate, they're going off of information from their logistics providers of average delivery times for the past month or two, and really don't have any knowledge or control over how long it will actually take. Take two identical shipments to the same address, one shipped last week might take 7 days to arrive and one shipped this week could take 30 days to arrive.

Ordering from China requires a certain amount of patience and being prepared for the unexpected. It's not really anybody's fault, it just is what it is.
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I work in sales and I’ve always under promised and over delivered. I don’t care what the excuses/knowledge is. I’m a consumer and buying a product. Do not promise me 14 days I will receive a product before I make a purchase. She should’ve told me “it can take up to 20-30 days” which would have been truthful and I wouldn’t have been irritated. I also probably would’ve ordered from another supplier instead, but they want the sale so they over promise.
 
Julep784 said:
Read update on my post, for us H turned out to be good.
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I was about to say. This batch I got is weird bc I get appetite suppression the next day and my nausea sets in on the next 2-3 days. I’ve been very impressed with it. Granted I am taking a higher dose than I ever did with mounjaro but I have lost close to 10 lbs in 2 weeks.
 
Julep784 said:
I work in sales and I’ve always under promised and over delivered. I don’t care what the excuses/knowledge is. I’m a consumer and buying a product. Do not promise me 14 days I will receive a product before I make a purchase. She should’ve told me “it can take up to 20-30 days” which would have been truthful and I wouldn’t have been irritated. I also probably would’ve ordered from another supplier instead, but they want the sale so they over promise.
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I get it, I really do. It's frustrating and inconvenient but it's all part of the hobby.

It sounds to me like you've fallen into the trap of applying American concepts of business and customer service to China when they are very different in most ways, and unfortunately that misconception often leads to disappointment.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
I get it, I really do. It's frustrating and inconvenient but it's all part of the hobby.

It sounds to me like you've fallen into the trap of applying American concepts of business and customer service to China when they are very different in most ways, and unfortunately that misconception often leads to disappointment.
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American and Chinese it doesn’t matter - you tell the truth or you don’t. American customer service can be even worse! Every other Chinese supplier I’ve ordered from has been truthful and a lot more accurate. The product, however, was good.
 
Eakimodad said:
I was about to say. This batch I got is weird bc I get appetite suppression the next day and my nausea sets in on the next 2-3 days. I’ve been very impressed with it. Granted I am taking a higher dose than I ever did with mounjaro but I have lost close to 10 lbs in 2 weeks.
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Yes you described exactly how it affected me pretty much. Nausea finally set in on the 4th day but suppression next day (I take at night) and awesome about your weight loss!
 
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