PGB Membership

While it's true that PGB charges more, they also test everything and also have members testing as well. Orders are coming from a US warehouse so no worrying about customs seizing packages. Most orders arrive in less than a wk after ordering if its something they have in stock. They also do pre buys for stuff not in stock. Plus they include free bac water.
 
It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.
 
It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.
axe grinder
 
It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.
Looks like you're headed to Nexaph for your next buy :D
 
While it's true that PGB charges more, they also test everything and also have members testing as well. Orders are coming from a US warehouse so no worrying about customs seizing packages. Most orders arrive in less than a wk after ordering if its something they have in stock. They also do pre buys for stuff not in stock. Plus they include free bac water.
They actually stopped doing pre-buys a few months ago. I think it was too much of a PITA for them to manage.
 
Looks like you're headed to Nexaph for your next buy :D
Truthfully if I was in urgent need I’d probably roll the dice on one of the China sources with a domestic warehouse during a promo, not sure which one right now but I’d do the research on the situation at that moment. I would try to coordinate with some friends so we could order at the same time and team up on testing.

But things are in so much flux and all these vendors are such a mess that im standing by and waiting for someone to pull ahead of the pack.
 
They actually stopped doing pre-buys a few months ago. I think it was too much of a PITA for them to manage.
It's my understanding that, after a problem batch incident, they no longer offer a new batch for sale until they've properly tested it. So that rules out pre-buys.
 
It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.
According to what PGB posted 8 days ago it says they are sending in 4 vials to Janoshik for testing. Also, I know that there was a lot of issues with NAD testing in the past so it might have something to do with the test, not the product.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20250325_190335_Chrome.jpg
    Screenshot_20250325_190335_Chrome.jpg
    716.1 KB · Views: 14
  • Screenshot_20250325_191453_OneDrive.jpg
    Screenshot_20250325_191453_OneDrive.jpg
    80.8 KB · Views: 14
  • Screenshot_20250325_191417_OneDrive.jpg
    Screenshot_20250325_191417_OneDrive.jpg
    114.2 KB · Views: 14
According to what PGB posted 8 days ago it says they are sending in 4 vials to Janoshik for testing. Also, I know that there was a lot of issues with NAD testing in the past so it might have something to do with the test, not the product.
What were the issues with the testing in the past? everyone else gets their NADs tested by Jano.
 
What were the issues with the testing in the past? everyone else gets their NADs tested by Jano.
I know that Prime Analytical Laboratories wrote a reported date January 21, 2025, stating that PGB NAD+ tested as 92.15% pure. I'm not going to post it here since I don't want to read the rules of pgbchat.com and learn whether I can repost images. It was posted today; I assume it was probably posted earlier.
 

Trending content

Forum statistics

Threads
2,602
Messages
45,744
Members
4,806
Latest member
greybuffalo
Back
Top