QSC is screwing around over a $135 credit!

[violetv]

Use the “search” function on this forum. Plenty of posts warning against using Alisa.

Not everyone reads these forums. Did it exist in 2022? So everytime I order from a vendor I'm suppose to check if another sales rep is the "correct" one?

The smart watch giveaway is starting to sound really good now.

 

[zpped]

Thing is, who else knew that Alisa and Tracy operate independently? That's great if these types of issues don't happen with Tracy but how many people know that they should only deal with Tracy?

The people who spent time and effort looking into a vendor before buying... this is why we preach doing your research.

So everytime I order from a vendor I'm suppose to check if another sales rep is the "correct" one?

Yes.

 

[violetv]

The people who spent time and effort looking into a vendor before buying... this is why we preach doing your research.


Yes.

Where's the post that says Alisa and Tracy operate independently?

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

Here's 4 all found within 30 seconds using the search function.

Post in thread 'Is QSC Irene legit? No shipping updates from QSC...'

Jun 23, 2024

I ordered via whatts app and pid by bank transfer to an a count in Luxemborg. The 2mg sema was out of stock but can’t get a refund at all. Said would send BTC and nothing received.

Emailed tracy who said go back to the agent.

Feel ripped off, be careful using these.Details of whatts app attached

Unfortunately as FQ mentioned you dealt with Alisa which I've lost count of how many people's orders she's messed up, and unfortunately Tracy can't fix Alisa problems.

Best bet is to try to get her to credit you toward a 5mg kit and pay the difference, or wait until 2mg is back in stock.

• ZippityDooDah

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Post in thread 'QSC result just released.'

Apr 30, 2024

I've purchased from QSC several times in the past year without any problems whatsoever, and know a number of others who have as well.

I still think they're reliable, especially for tirz and sema. Are they perfect? Nope, but neither are 99.9% of the other Chinese suppliers. Every supplier is only as good as their most recent batch that tested well. QSC's consistency has improved a lot in the past year, and even though they've had some screwups along the way they are still a safer bet than most of these new suppliers popping up who nobody has ever heard of and who don't really have...

• FourthQuintile

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Post in thread 'I'm baaaaa-aaaaack!'

Apr 8, 2024

Have not heard of Eros.

QSC is, um, "ok"? They have their issues for sure, but they generally have good test results on average although there have been some issues at times. Like most suppliers they've mostly gotten better over time. They're not perfect, but there are a few non-peptide things I get from them regularly and have never been disappointed. Their TZ and SG have been very consistent, other peps tend to have more issues.

If you have the time, please PM or post the non peptide things you get from them, I'm curious

+1 on welcome back! A welcome refresher I'm sure...

• axh1294

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Post in thread 'Seriously.Where can I get some decent tirz'

May 17, 2024

QSC is the bomb. Just need to understand, Tracy is curt.

Tracy has a support team now that is friendlier, but they really are not in the business of informing you of anything. They fill orders, that is all.

Tracy is deff trying very hard to bust into the peptide world and is now offering customer favorites but I just wouldn't rely or expect them to help you with anything other than reliably getting an order in at a very decent price.

China shipping right now is FAST. No need to wait for domestics. QSC does a reship so your order isn't coming direct from China unless you order express...

• axh1294

Probably more but I'm not digging more than that.

 

[violetv]

Here's 4 all found within 30 seconds using the search function.

Post in thread 'Is QSC Irene legit? No shipping updates from QSC...'

Jun 23, 2024

I ordered via whatts app and pid by bank transfer to an a count in Luxemborg. The 2mg sema was out of stock but can’t get a refund at all. Said would send BTC and nothing received.

Emailed tracy who said go back to the agent.

Feel ripped off, be careful using these.Details of whatts app attached

Unfortunately as FQ mentioned you dealt with Alisa which I've lost count of how many people's orders she's messed up, and unfortunately Tracy can't fix Alisa problems.

Best bet is to try to get her to credit you toward a 5mg kit and pay the difference, or wait until 2mg is back in stock.

• ZippityDooDah

• 

F

Post in thread 'QSC result just released.'

Apr 30, 2024

I've purchased from QSC several times in the past year without any problems whatsoever, and know a number of others who have as well.

I still think they're reliable, especially for tirz and sema. Are they perfect? Nope, but neither are 99.9% of the other Chinese suppliers. Every supplier is only as good as their most recent batch that tested well. QSC's consistency has improved a lot in the past year, and even though they've had some screwups along the way they are still a safer bet than most of these new suppliers popping up who nobody has ever heard of and who don't really have...

• FourthQuintile

• 

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Post in thread 'I'm baaaaa-aaaaack!'

Apr 8, 2024

Have not heard of Eros.

QSC is, um, "ok"? They have their issues for sure, but they generally have good test results on average although there have been some issues at times. Like most suppliers they've mostly gotten better over time. They're not perfect, but there are a few non-peptide things I get from them regularly and have never been disappointed. Their TZ and SG have been very consistent, other peps tend to have more issues.

If you have the time, please PM or post the non peptide things you get from them, I'm curious

+1 on welcome back! A welcome refresher I'm sure...

• axh1294

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Post in thread 'Seriously.Where can I get some decent tirz'

May 17, 2024

QSC is the bomb. Just need to understand, Tracy is curt.

Tracy has a support team now that is friendlier, but they really are not in the business of informing you of anything. They fill orders, that is all.

Tracy is deff trying very hard to bust into the peptide world and is now offering customer favorites but I just wouldn't rely or expect them to help you with anything other than reliably getting an order in at a very decent price.

China shipping right now is FAST. No need to wait for domestics. QSC does a reship so your order isn't coming direct from China unless you order express...

• axh1294

Probably more but I'm not digging more than t

I see one post that only says Tracy can't help with Alisa's order.

Only in this post it has been clearly defined that Tracy and Alisa have nothing to do with each other. Which for one company is still very abnormal.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

So everytime I order from a vendor I'm suppose to check if another sales rep is the "correct" one?

You are asking for trouble if you don't. Seriously be careful, there are lots of fake sales reps that claim to work for reputable companies. Alisa isn't a scamer, just the worse of the 2 known QSC reps. But anyone who skips this step WILL get scammed. It's a matter of when, not if.

I see one post that only says Tracy can't help with Alisa's order.

Only in this post it has been clearly defined that Tracy and Alisa have nothing to do with each other. Which for one company is still very abnormal.

Good God, actually read them! All the posts I linked warn about Alisa.

 

[Jailbreak7]

I see one post that only says Tracy can't help with Alisa's order.

Only in this post it has been clearly defined that Tracy and Alisa have nothing to do with each other. Which for one company is still very abnormal.

you're making a terrible mistake in trying to inject some logic into their business operation.. while you're not wrong, it just doesn't (have to) work in that logical way. you have to adjust... (no matter the vendor).. but more importantly, my advice is to simplify as much as you can - the simpler the transaction, the less chance of things going sideways.

 

[violetv]

you're making a terrible mistake in trying to inject some logic into their business operation.. while you're not wrong, it just doesn't (have to) work in that logical way. you have to adjust... (no matter the vendor).. but more importantly, my advice is to simplify as much as you can - the simpler the transaction, the less chance of things going sideways.

You're right, I got complacent with a false sense of security from previous transactions.

 

[Bronco]

Good God, actually read them! All the posts I linked warn about Alisa.

But that would take too much work to read those, I want everything handed to me on a silver platter

 

[violetv]

You are asking for trouble if you don't. Seriously be careful, there are lots of fake sales reps that claim to work for reputable companies. Alisa isn't a scamer, just the worse of the 2 known QSC reps. But anyone who skips this step WILL get scammed. It's a matter of when, not if.

Good God, actually read them! All the posts I linked warn about Alisa.

I get what you're saying.

Still, those other posts say don't use Alisa but not that they operate independently but under the same company. That information is only really clarified in this post.

Why doesn't Tracy make a post in the vendor forum that says Don't deal when Alisa! She has nothing to do with me! She represents a QSC that I have absolutely no power to do anything with bad orders.

 

[notyourrobot]

I get what you're saying.

Still, those other posts say don't use Alisa but not that they operate independently but under the same company. That information is only really clarified in this post.

Why doesn't Tracy make a post in the vendor forum that says Don't deal when Alisa! She has nothing to do with me! She represents a QSC that I have absolutely no power to do anything with bad orders.

Do other companies' sales people need to do this as well? You're the one who assumed that Tracy would be able to fix your problems. I'm sorry, but when I have a problem with a sales rep, I don't go to a different sales rep from the same company for recourse.

I stay pretty quiet here, but this is just... special. You seem like an intelligent individual, but maybe you're letting your anger at the situation get the best of you? Take a deep breath. You're in the black market. Shit like this is gonna happen. Yeah, losing $135 sucks, I get it. But come on. What did you really expect? Some people have lost way more than that playing this game.

Can we talk about something else now?

 

[noteablequotable]

Do other companies' sales people need to do this as well? You're the one who assumed that Tracy would be able to fix your problems. I'm sorry, but when I have a problem with a sales rep, I don't go to a different sales rep from the same company for recourse.

I think the key difference here is that no one believed Tracy was "just another sales rep". If that were the case Tracy wouldn't have been added to this conversation by other people. Everyone was saying "just contact Tracy" as far back as the first page of this thread.

There was confusion about their role, probably because we're used to interacting with companies where there is a manager or person in authority you can escalate to. We're not used to sales reps becoming the public face of a company with no oversight.

I don't think Tracy is obligated to make clarifications on all of the forums he frequents, but I think we should stop beating up on @violetv. They're clearly in a bad situation and made incorrect assumptions, but so did a lot of us.

Also it's their thread so we can leave but I don't think we can force them to talk about something else.

 

[notyourrobot]

I think the key difference here is that no one believed Tracy was "just another sales rep". If that were the case Tracy wouldn't have been added to this conversation by other people. Everyone was saying "just contact Tracy" as far back as the first page of this thread.

There was confusion about their role, probably because we're used to interacting with companies where there is a manager or person in authority you can escalate to. We're not used to sales reps becoming the public face of a company with no oversight.

I don't think Tracy is obligated to make clarifications on all of the forums he frequents, but I think we should stop beating up on @violetv. They're clearly in a bad situation and made incorrect assumptions, but so did a lot of us.

Also it's their thread so we can leave but I don't think we can force them to talk about something else.

That is all totally fair. I was definitely unkind, and I apologize. It's not my norm.

 

[chmuse]

That is all totally fair. I was definitely unkind, and I apologize. It's not my norm.

Why do you get to be reasonable without people asking to have you banned?

 

[DwightTheDelight]

That is all totally fair. I was definitely unkind, and I apologize. It's not my norm.

Why do you get to be reasonable without people asking to have you banned?

Did someone say ban? I'll take it from here!

 

[chmuse]

Did someone say ban? I'll take it from here!

Gotta get some street cred back.

DWIGHT IS NOT A DELIGHT!

I'm sorry don't hate me

 

[DwightTheDelight]

Gotta get some street cred back.

DWIGHT IS NOT A DELIGHT!

I'm sorry don't hate me

No regertz! Not a single one.

 

[hexagonal]

Do other companies' sales people need to do this as well? You're the one who assumed that Tracy would be able to fix your problems. I'm sorry, but when I have a problem with a sales rep, I don't go to a different sales rep from the same company for recourse.

I stay pretty quiet here, but this is just... special. You seem like an intelligent individual, but maybe you're letting your anger at the situation get the best of you? Take a deep breath. You're in the black market. Shit like this is gonna happen. Yeah, losing $135 sucks, I get it. But come on. What did you really expect? Some people have lost way more than that playing this game.

Can we talk about something else now?

You might not, but this is a totally normal thing to do. If you are not able to get an escalation path through one sales rep, others very frequently will be able to point you in the right direction. I've had to do this many times over the decades as both a customer and in B2B transactions. Sales reps will frequently be happy to help you escalate and resolve the issue because they know it's a good chance to win your account over.

And, I mean, if you don't want to talk about it, you can always just not come into this thread. It's not like you're forced to participate in it

 

[notyourrobot]

You might not, but this is a totally normal thing to do. If you are not able to get an escalation path through one sales rep, others very frequently will be able to point you in the right direction. I've had to do this many times over the decades as both a customer and in B2B transactions. Sales reps will frequently be happy to help you escalate and resolve the issue because they know it's a good chance to win your account over.

And, I mean, if you don't want to talk about it, you can always just not come into this thread. It's not like you're forced to participate in it

Yeah, as I said earlier, I was being a jerk and apologized. I'm not usually like that, and I definitely feel like an ass now. I generally try to be kind to everyone, but I sure wasn't in that moment. Thanks for your perspective, I needed some straightening out for sure.

 

[Vicki]

I see one post that only says Tracy can't help with Alisa's order.

Only in this post it has been clearly defined that Tracy and Alisa have nothing to do with each other. Which for one company is still very abnormal.

To be fair this is very normal. I work in consulting and the times I worked at a bigger company if someone would email/call me about another coworkers problem I would delete/ignore all together. Not my pay grade not my problem. I think this is fairly typical at any midsized and larger company.

Also you don't know the entire story behind the issues with another coworkers client. The most tracy can do if he was being nice is forward your complaint to Alisa. Since you are her client/customer, he shouldn't respond to you at all.