QSC is screwing around over a $135 credit!
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The same debate about qsc exists on meso around the value of harm reduction. New members will go for the vendor with the most traffic, but this vendor in particular sells unfinished oils (they need to be filtered) and most new members have no idea what that means. They don’t really have a good solution either except banning discussion about sources from most topics.
nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
Same here... First "Irene" then "Bella" (using the correct email address provided)
highlowwegot
Recently Joined
No, Bella is one of tracy's assistants. As long as you start out by emailing sigma@sigmachemical.com.cn.
highlowwegot
Recently Joined
It looks like if you dont order from tracys team, tracy wont help you with issues. If you send a order to sigma@sig...(look at Tracy's posts here for the email, don't take my or another posters word for it) it goes to tracys team. If there is a issue with his team you can email him at tracy@sigm to fix the issue.
Seems perfectly valid to have the discussion about the vendor being banned. Doesn't mean that they will be banned. I think that a user should be allowed to express themselves. Vendor doesn't seem to have a problem with it 🫤
FamousGoodkitty
Moderator
100 % this is correct. No problems until you do have a problem - and you are out hundreds - and they really don't care because there is always someone else to take the risk and take your place. Meanwhile they laugh the whole way to the bank for taking your money and no recourse for you - tough toodles is their motto.
I think if there was a shitstirring to helpful post ratio, you’d be leading the pack from the shitstirring side.
That's his rep, so no. A rep and the sales manager are two different things. He's said several times he will fix his reps mistakes if he feels they messed up.
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I don't think I've actually ever seen someone recommend qsc.
Ive seen people talk about them, mention rock bottom prices, then caveat all the things that can go wrong and have gone wrong.
Hell, there's a 30 bullet point post on this very forum that highlights what users should do to prevent issues warning everyone of the issues that may follow.
Ive seen people talk about them, mention rock bottom prices, then caveat all the things that can go wrong and have gone wrong.
Hell, there's a 30 bullet point post on this very forum that highlights what users should do to prevent issues warning everyone of the issues that may follow.
I’ve spent probably $5k with them this year.
I’d def recommend them with the caveat that they aren’t great at handholding and the ordering process is painful until you sort it out. And you need to expect delivery between 3-8 weeks. And the communication is iffy.
🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️😂
But if you like deals and aren’t high strung you can def accumulate a stash for you and the other rats very cheaply. It’s helped me get my family and friends on the tirz after being screwed over by big pharma and compounders.
And that actually brings me to the thing I like best about QSC and why I defend him/them:
When everyone else was gouging, they started being aggressive on price and have never stopped.
They have forced the entire industry to follow suit. Research Tirz cost 3-5x as much just 9-12 months ago!
I’d argue the reason why we aren’t paying $350 for a 10mg kit anymore is because Tracy changed the game.
So now, if you want to buy from someone domestic or someone with a better bedside manner you can without getting completely fleeced.
I’d def recommend them with the caveat that they aren’t great at handholding and the ordering process is painful until you sort it out. And you need to expect delivery between 3-8 weeks. And the communication is iffy.
🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️😂
But if you like deals and aren’t high strung you can def accumulate a stash for you and the other rats very cheaply. It’s helped me get my family and friends on the tirz after being screwed over by big pharma and compounders.
And that actually brings me to the thing I like best about QSC and why I defend him/them:
When everyone else was gouging, they started being aggressive on price and have never stopped.
They have forced the entire industry to follow suit. Research Tirz cost 3-5x as much just 9-12 months ago!
I’d argue the reason why we aren’t paying $350 for a 10mg kit anymore is because Tracy changed the game.
So now, if you want to buy from someone domestic or someone with a better bedside manner you can without getting completely fleeced.
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To be fair you get the same service from anyone at qsc too. None 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I recommended them to someone on reddit lol. But be had a good experience and got the brown tirz promo in two weeks.
That's great and all but can you really credit Tracy for the pricing? I think it's more likely that the mysterious corporate makes that decision and passes it to their sales people.
I was getting the same pricing from "my" sales team too. 🤷♂️
So credit to QSC corporate for pricing but none at all for managing their sales teams performance?
If there was a time I was tempted to order anything from you, I'm certainly over it now! One less potential customer you have to worry about "wasting your time."
99.9% of the time someone's bad experience with QSC can be traced to an expectation that came from within the customer, not an expectation that Tracy set and then failed to meet. Tracy isnt promising consistent cap colors, quick tracking, payment confirmation, service with a smile, etc etc, yet people are coming out of the woodwork to gripe about their failure to deliver these things. If you need any of those things, no amount of complaining is going to get QSC to provide them. In exchange, you get the best prices and consistently acceptable quality.
I can’t say. I’m not privy to your info or your “source”.
I know that the publicly available pricing from every vendor was directly influenced by his aggressive strategy and as a result glp1 pricing has dropped across the board probably 60-80% this year.
Like I said, is it his aggressive strategy or just what corporate tells him to sell? I got the same deals from my sales team which is also QSC but it's not his sales team.
Back to the Walmart analogy, corporate sets all the black Friday sales. You can't credit an individual store for the deal you got.
Well considering these other people are either invisible or being gatekept, I’m crediting him. He’s the one driving the bus in a public way.
X1000.
They're trying to fix some of the things to limit rep time spent dealing with the emails/messages (stoppers, sending out tracking, response times, etc.).
Lol that would fall into the second part of my comment. Almost all people who use them try to set expectations when they talk about them. Caveats galore. Because we know the vast majority are expecting their experience to be like Amazon half the time.
Qsc is my preferred vendor. They're good at what they do. But this shit ain't amazon. Stick with the more expensive stuff if that is stuff you prioritize in your drug dealing experience.
When I see issues, there always seems to be something going on, on the customer side. Didn't send tracking, paid the wrong amount, reached out to early for tracking, didn't video their opening, reached out to the wrong contact, their wise banking app won't release their money, so on and so forth. Then there's some other things that pop up, but they've been caveated to hell in the past like purity gurantees and crashed gear.
highlowwegot
Recently Joined
Where does "your" sales team post their promos? I am just wondering if there is a different board or discord or something that I am having fomo about. Or are you seeing the promos tracy posts and just using your old contacts?
I think you missed that the email address I was using is right on their contact me on the main qsc website. And I know that the pre order that I had an issue with was also on his price list because I've seen other people with my same out of stock issue as well. Just not this issue with shorting my credit.
There's no gatekeeping, people who have used QSC before know about the Alisa sales team too.
The issue is there's no accountability when there's an issue. My orders went fine for years since 2021 and I've probably spent plenty more than you but if there's such an issue over $135 then I'm not comfortable risking a larger order.
Follow the Qindgao Sigma Chemical😊 channel on WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029Vaqc8hREawdlb1Tpwg10
Here's one place...
I look at both and had no idea that there were different sales teams. The deals are the same.
Like most normal people, I thought it was all one company.
geoguy78
GLP-1 Specialist
You're not wrong. QSC started a race to the bottom for prices. Their customer service blows, but like them or not, they are big enough that they can move the entire market. Other vendors have had to quickly drop prices. ASC was posting "deals" just a month or so ago that were so far above QSC's that people were literally calling Tuk out on what a joke the "deals" were. And guess what? Tuk is now offering Tirz at a price comparable to QSC.
Tracy and Alisa’s relationship to QSC more closely resembles that of a real estate agent (independent contractor) to their broker. Tracy has his customers and Alisa has hers. Alisa’s problems are hers, not Tracy’s.
I’ve had great success with Tracy, did plenty of reading about pitfalls, kept orders simple, minimized my risk in advance as much as possible. It’s not for everybody.
With that said, LLY ex-dividend date is 12/10 so I’ll be putting in another order.
I’ve had great success with Tracy, did plenty of reading about pitfalls, kept orders simple, minimized my risk in advance as much as possible. It’s not for everybody.
With that said, LLY ex-dividend date is 12/10 so I’ll be putting in another order.
I get that now but there's no where that actually discusses how that structure works. With real estate we understand there are individual agents and if there's an issue you can still contact the actual broker. That's what they're there for, but not in this case. If one sales team wants to screw you then you're screwed. How does that look for the main company?
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
Agree that this is actually really important. I'll wait for @Qingdao Sigma confirmation, but based on what's been said so far it seems like each sales team sets their own policy, so there is a meaningful difference between ordering from Tracy@ QSC and ordering from someone else also affiliated with the company. If you want the level of support Tracy provides, you need to buy from him.
I didn't know that, and I'm not sure anyone else did before it was mentioned today, but we should probably keep that in mind when evaluating this vendor.
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I have recourse when engaging in legal activities on my soil, not so much when purchasing “illegal-to-import” peps from a foreign “entity”. My relationship is with Tracy; I really don’t care who he works for. I don’t buy more than I’m willing to lose.
geoguy78
GLP-1 Specialist
I don't know if "Tracy's level of support" is much of a selling point for using his team 🤣
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