urSinsn2me
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I'm so glad that I decided to stick with my underdosed 99% pure amo reta over that overdosed 96% and 97% purity from qsc. Bullet dodged
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urSinsn2me
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I just check their updated price list which now includes link to test for Sema 5mg, which wasn't previously included there, purity on average some 98.7% is little bit disappointing, but amount above 6mg is very good, some 20% overfill!
I think anything >98% is still OK, especially when overfill so much, but 94-96% for other products - its already really low, QSC should do something about it very fast ...
I think anything >98% is still OK, especially when overfill so much, but 94-96% for other products - its already really low, QSC should do something about it very fast ...
Yes, my resting heart rate increased when I titrated up to 8mg a week in March (reta 8mg is current dose). However, I started testosterone replacement therapy (trt) in December and my HR also increased, but seemed to drop back down a bit before titrating up on Reta 8mg.
My HR was mid to low 50 bpm before TRT, high 50s to 60 before starting 8mg Tirz in March, and now mid to high 60s. Based on that information, I would say Reta probably resulted a higher resting HR. My trt dosage has not changed.
urSinsn2me
GLP-1 Novice
Sure 98% is good but at this point if their other stuff is between 94%-97% why even risk it. From what I've read this company gas had many shots. As I've said before I'll stick to Amos underdosing knowing it's 99%
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
@urSinsn2me @milos @peteyb786 @Broken Chef
Just posted this in the Public Square and requested that Zippity Pin It.
Perhaps you should repost your messages there, or, continue your convo on that Warning thread?
I'll be updating the Original Post as I learn more from you and others about it.
Thanks, Dennis
Just posted this in the Public Square and requested that Zippity Pin It.
Perhaps you should repost your messages there, or, continue your convo on that Warning thread?
I'll be updating the Original Post as I learn more from you and others about it.
Thanks, Dennis
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
I'm trying not to smirk while also trying to be compassionate @urSinsn2me !
I bought and am using AmoPeptide 99% Reta as well.
Eli Lilly research pen was tested at 95% 😃😃. 95% is apparently clinical trial grade
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
@Deeubee
• I'm not in a clinical trial.
• I did not agree to accept higher risk to further medical knowledge.
• It is clearly within Quingdao Sigma Chemical's ability to achieve the highest pharma standards.
I will not accept a Purity level less than "pharmaceutical grade" for peptides that my wife and I use.
I communicate with hundreds of new and prospective peptide users every month, and,
it would be irresponsible of me to suggest that they accept a low grade of drug.
I recommend that NO ONE ACCEPT LESS THAN 99% "pharmaceutical grade" products.
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
@Deubee Please pimp and troll elsewhere.
You are using adolescent wit to degrade adult discussion of a serious subject.
That's not welcomed here.
Regarding the discussion of purity figures on the qsc reta batches, @Qingdao Sigma recently shared that their peptide chef didn’t account for pH of some peptide batches which was causing premature degradation. My assumption is that that is responsible for the lower-than-typical purity in those tests, so would hold off on buying until they brew another batch. I like Qsc but their habit of selling through bad batches means it might be a moment to pause any orders whilst they unload all the stuff the new guy cooked in q2.
dionysos
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I agree that "pausing any orders" while they sell off carelessly cooked batches is
good advice @exploitedworkerbee
Whether or not lower Purity is actually dangerous is above my pay grade.
HOWEVER, it does certainly indicate a lack of due care.
Quingdao Sigma Chemical should not be rewarded for that!
Yeah I don’t think it’s dangerous. As I see it the issue is that, because of the nature of this problem, it’s unclear at this time how much additional degradation will occur between now and when you’re ready to use the peptides, so you don’t know what you’re buying.
a good explanation. I would just add, my personal threshold is more to 98% (same as peppys), yes, we are looking for >99% but if >98% I would not trash out the product, just be cautious post-administration - look for adverse reactions, because the remaining 2% can be anything...
you see, the issue in pharmaceutical/medical field is, it cant depend on "I don't think it's dangerous", this field is evidence-based and we are talking about our health
Neither trolling nor anything.
There is no unified mark. I as just stating fact. An Eli Lilly Reta sample was tested and it was 95% surely they wouldn't be testing therapeutic doses with bunk?
its just definition of ASC grade, nothing more, and ASC grade is not the highest one, that one is USP, so if something is only ASC its telling you you can (maybe) use it but its a lower grade compared to USP
but if you want to use peptides with 95% go ahead, just you should do some reading around, when some people report injection side reactions when using (most probably) not so pure products
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
No, it is not just me.
The United States Pharmacopeia, the National Formulary and the FDA have a few things to say as well.
The United States Pharmacopeia, the National Formulary and the FDA have a few things to say as well.
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@dionysos was right, you have to grow up so you can understand the difference between "American Chemical Society" grade and "US Pharmacopeia" -> do you want to inject chemicals or drugs?
As a person who has conducted (well facilitated more like) clinical trials with Mass Gen and BCH, I can tell you he is winging it. There are many times that NF and USP standard generally equate with ACS.
You can label me a troll or whatever. The truth is the truth. I'm not making this up.
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
Not quite the master of your material are you @Deeubee
You felt it necessary to delete your assertion that it was "Just me"
after you looked up the references I made.
I'll just continue to "wing it" here in GLP1forum,
advocating for high drug standards along with the USP, NF and the FDA
while you "facilitate" and suggest that high drug standards don't matter.
There is also a lot of mixing up of terminology. Many times industry wise, these terms are used interchangeably. However, He is right in terms of the standards not just being purity levels. Manufacturing standards also come into play. But are we really saying 99% pure peptide can't fail sterility tests? We don't even test enough for pyrogens (or endotoxins, although for synthetic peps like these, it is less of a problem)
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I decided to be polite and state it better. You will not find any industry wide 99% purity standard as you claim. It's not just by throwing 3 letter regulatory agencies about. We have worked with some of these agencies before and have submitted bales of paperwork. It's not as simple and straightforward as purity = 99%, we gucci... (or Kosher/all set.. before you attack my language again)
Fight nice.
If you don't like a the peptide purity of a vendor's product, don't buy it.
It's also stupid to get so worked up about purity. I'm sure the cocaine, heroin, and meth for sale on your local street corner isn't exactly pharmaceutical grade either and it costs a lot more. Relax.
If you don't like a the peptide purity of a vendor's product, don't buy it.
It's also stupid to get so worked up about purity. I'm sure the cocaine, heroin, and meth for sale on your local street corner isn't exactly pharmaceutical grade either and it costs a lot more. Relax.
Mounjamen
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I have a big request for the professionals here: Please don't use so many abbreviations or write the explanations in brackets once. We newbies can only guess and look for meaning in the whole text. That would be very nice. Zip has promised to compile a corresponding explanation of the abbreviations, but has probably not got around to it yet. Thank you!
I guess @ZippityDooDah is pretty busy (+ he is active on many forums and groups) and you must understand this server is not for profit (as far as I know), he invest his own time and perhaps also some money to run it. We cant forcing him to do anything, only thing we can do, is to be thankful to him that he created this very special place!
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