Reta until I hit my goal

[AnabolicRaldo]

Week 1 Day 1 of my Reta20 (recon 2ml bacwater)
Jab 5units (.5mg) (evening before bed)

Current fasted weight 71.55kg
Average built
5’6
M34yrs old
15-20% body fat

Into lifestyle bodybuilding.
Inputs are welcome

Planning to stack cjc-1295 / ipamorelin without DAC

 

[headward]

.5mg per week?

 

[AnabolicRaldo]

.5mg per week?

Yes. Starting very low dose to see how my body reacts, or is it very low?

 

[alphaamigo]

Yes. Starting very low dose to see how my body reacts, or is it very low?

You should do what makes sense in your context. .5mg would have made no sense for someone like me who needed to lose 60lbs just to get out of obese range. I've lost 35 of those 60lbs, but started on 2mg and titrated up to now being on 6mg (and I am comfortably, consistently losing at 6mg for now). For me it is a life saving drug, and I'm following the protocol set by the E.L. in their trials. My brother, who also is heavy, started at 1mg, and he said it was a waste of time for him, and he should have started at 2mg.

However, from my discussions with people, for those who are less overweight, they don't seem to need as much to gain a benefit. Your weight does not put you in the obese category, just mildly overweight. I see no reason why would shouldn't start at .5mg and just see where it takes you. You may find it a waste of time, or it might just enough to start you on your journey.

 

[headward]

Yes. Starting very low dose to see how my body reacts, or is it very low?

No, that's best to start slow. Let your body build up to it. You're really going to like it.

There's a tesa/cjc/ipa 6/3/3 blend in a gb for $132 shipped and r30 $89 btw.

 

[CNCCurrency]

No, that's best to start slow. Let your body build up to it. You're really going to like it.

There's a tesa/cjc/ipa 6/3/3 blend in a gb for $132 shipped and r30 $89 btw.

tesa/cjc/ipa 6/3/3, seems like an odd and redundant blend?

 

[BNLFL]

.5mg per week?

I still can't figure out these baby doses.

No, that's best to start slow. Let your body build up to it. You're really going to like it.

There's a tesa/cjc/ipa 6/3/3 blend in a gb for $132 shipped and r30 $89 btw.

That first round of The $89, sold 3,000 kits in 12 minutes and closed. I feel better with the 2 kits of R30 GB for $110/kit from WW. It just opened yesterday, and closes 7/1. I grabbed two like the addict I am.

 

[headward]

I still can't figure out these baby doses.

That first round of The $89, sold 3,000 kits in 12 minutes and closed. I feel better with the 2 kits of R30 GB for $110/kit from WW. It just opened yesterday, and closes 7/1. I grabbed two like the addict I am.

It's a better safe than sorry approach. I actually wish I went small starting out. I was stupid about it going 5mg the first week (split up over a few days, but still). I had this idea that I needed to get to max dose asap. But that's not really how it works. Many don't ever need to get to max dose.

😂 I get it, totally. My first buy was r6 from nexaph and the recent r60 gb was cheaper than this! So it's like a kid in a candy store. So I'm kind of glad the one today sold out so quickly. Gives me time to think. And yea, I like that the WW is open a good while and still very cheap.

 

[BNLFL]

It's a better safe than sorry approach. I actually with I went small starting out. I was stupid about it going 5mg the first week (split up over a few days, but still). I had this idea that I needed to get to max dose asap. But that's not really how it works. Many don't ever need to get to max dose.

😂 I get it, totally. My first buy was r6 from nexaph and the recent r60 gb was cheaper than this! So it's like a kid in a candy store. So I'm kind of glad the one today sold out so quickly. Gives me time to think. And yea, I like that the WW is open a good while and still very cheap.

I get it. I didn't even look at that. We started 2mg, and played the normal titration deal. Starting 9mg Sunday. I like Melody at WW.

 

[Vriende]

Yes. Starting very low dose to see how my body reacts, or is it very low?

I agree with a slow titration. Why not be prudent?
Sorry to those who see me repeating this every week, but some people are highly sensitive to new meds.
Who needs the drama of being stuck at home for a few days with uncontrollable diarrhea, or painful constipation?

 

[Elgordoboy]

I started at .5mg and it shut me down for a week. Things eased and I can eat and enjoy but healthier choices are easy blah blah, it’s been said before elsewhere. 5’7” 210 back in end of Jan beginning of Feb. I am up to 1.25mg and down to 185. I likely could’ve gone up a bit quicker and perhaps be on a slightly higher dose but I’m happy with the results. I’d like to get another 5 to 10lbs off and be below 15%bf. I’m not in a rush.

 

[lessthanhalf]

There is one potential problem I see from starting at such low doses. There is a very good chance that the effects seen at 0.5mg or so, are just going to be placebo effects, rather than actual effects of the drug, so it might be an issue if people get effects or side effects from placebo effects, that are completely different to those once the dose goes up, which is going to get confusing and hard to interpret.

 

[Elgordoboy]

There is one potential problem I see from starting at such low doses. There is a very good chance that the effects seen at 0.5mg or so, are just going to be placebo effects, rather than actual effects of the drug, so it might be an issue if people get effects or side effects from placebo effects, that are completely different to those once the dose goes up, which is going to get confusing and hard to interpret.

I get this, it’s a risk. In my case it was more than feels as the bloods improved so dramatically that I’m nearly certain placebo effect couldn’t be responsible. The only reason I say nearly is that I try not to be 100% about anything.

 

[AngieHolmes]

I still can't figure out these baby doses.

That first round of The $89, sold 3,000 kits in 12 minutes and closed. I feel better with the 2 kits of R30 GB for $110/kit from WW. It just opened yesterday, and closes 7/1. I grabbed two like the addict I am.

There's not much to figure out. Some people need a lot less of a GLP1 to get the results they want than others. From what I've observed, it doesn't map on 100% to how much a person needs to lose. You can be in a large body and still need a small dose.

That's bc bodies are different. If you don't respond well to .5, that's cool. No one's gonna make you start low. For someone who does, starting at 2 or 4 or 6 could result in some very bad times, most of them in the bathroom. I'm just happy when people start at a dose that doesn't make them sick, and eventually find the doses that work for them : )

 

[AngieHolmes]

There is one potential problem I see from starting at such low doses. There is a very good chance that the effects seen at 0.5mg or so, are just going to be placebo effects, rather than actual effects of the drug, so it might be an issue if people get effects or side effects from placebo effects, that are completely different to those once the dose goes up, which is going to get confusing and hard to interpret.

There are numerous reports of people starting at .5, feeling the intended effects, and slowly titrating up as needed. A couple reports of even that being pretty hard on one's digestive system. I'm not sure why you'd disregard those as "placebo." Especially for those of us who are older and have NEVER been able to convince ourselves to have no appetite. Why, out of everything we've tried, would we experience placebo effects on this particular med?

I think it's more likely we don't understand the affected systems thoroughly enough to know why .5mg and 6mg would function identically in two different bodies.

 

[lessthanhalf]

Describing effects as placebo effects is not a criticism of anyone, Everyone is susceptible to placebo effects, and often this is a good thing helping to fix illnesses. Even placebo morphine in acute severe pain works, not quite as well as the real drug, but it has way more effect than you might think.

It is completely normal and inevitable that people will get effects influenced by expectations, in the studies of these drugs, those in the placebo arms got nausea and vomiting at substantial rates, not as high as the actual drug, but surprisingly high. Vomiting even if caused by an effect of a drug you think you had is still a very real effect.

I do think it is possible to get significant real drug effects from doses as low as 0.5mg of reta, but I also think that the majority of people would not get significant effects at that dose, so that the effects experienced at that low dose are at least as likely to be placebo effects as real ones, which could be confusing.

 

[Calm Logic]

Similarly, more fatigue reported with placebo (12%) than elora 1 mg (0%). And more nausea reported with placebo (14%) than elora 1 mg (11%) and 3 mg (13%).