ThePepPlanner
New Member
This my basis. When is enough considered enough to stockpile.
so what's your general sourcing strategy now?
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tncc_rn
GLP-1 Member
Agree. Only caveat is the possible influx of normal glp-1 users that are about to find their beloved medications unobtanium in the next few weeks. If they make their way to the gray side it may impact prices trending down further. Hopefully not.
keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
In the short term, that would increase prices. In the long-term, prices would go down.
Well they deleted my post lol. ZLZ is what I have
A bunch of us bought from you... You're on the wrong forum if you don't want people to be cranky.
Sometimes I wonder if we're meso-lite.
Where did the original post go? I feel like I missed something important.
nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
Me too... I noticed it's gone.
Next time @chmuse if you want it to live forever quote it (I've been bit by being quoted before I can delete 🧐)
You should be able to see it? I quoted it.
I did quote it! Are you two gaslighting me? I can SEE it!
Let me know when you are seriously considering...
keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
I thought people on this forum were way too rough. Then I saw the folks on Meso. Now I’ve gotten used to the folks here and like this forum the way it is. Unless I start taking steroids or similar drug, I will be neither tough nor angry enough to hang out on Meso.
I did learn that on the glp1forum that most of the folks who are somewhat rude or harsh seem to be fine when I talk back to them in the same way.
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Definitely different vibes. It's almost refreshing.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
my problem is the intelligence level seems nil.
keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
As to first part, that’s exactly the right thing to do. Since your friend knows he likes the stuff and isn’t merely trying it, I would have avoided recommending Skye Peptides due to the cost. I feel like I have to make some derogatory remark about Cain, but I’m probably just being petty. I’ll leave that for another day. Since your friend is a newbie, I’d refer him to the Stairway to Gray Telegram site at https://t.me/+QKW1PJdg8lRmOWRh.
I've actually been pleasantly surprised by some of it. I feel like I'm getting a different education there.
I'm way too chicken to post. I'm not even allowed to like posts in the QSC thread, which feels mean. Let me react to stuff, it makes me feel like I belong!
nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
Gaslighting 🤣😂... I completely missed it! My bad.
He's making me spoon-feed him. I showed him how to use a pep calculator, reconstitute, read a jano report, etc.
Trust me, I linked him to everything. He's just not interested when he knows I'll cave and just do it for him.
Edited so I sound like less of a pushover. And re: Nexa; he's lazy and it was easy.
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keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
That’s okay. It helps keep me from getting confused.
keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
They DO have more pep oriented areas.
Don't encourage me. Oyster is already rubbing off on me, imagine if I start hanging out on meso?
Zippity is going to come back and wonder who the fuck I am.
You'd be popping anavar as part of your pre workout and reading romantasy novels between sets in the gym in your quest to get jacked.
That's what exercise bikes are for- you can read while doing your cardio.
Maybe dark romance is better for that. Motivation to be fast so you can get away.
People who are active on meso often become highly allergic to cardio, though. Estimates are that up to 80% of all bodybuilders suffer from this affliction.
Oh they're going to love me. Opened with a Tracy joke and followed up with saying I've only ever done cardio so I'm there to learn more about other exercises. I'm going to be eviscerated.
keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
For OPSEC reasons, Zippity is laying low.
He's gotta come back, what happens if we piss bee off so much he quits?
Their top poster has 76k, but second top only has 24k. This might be quite the undertaking.
I think I can do it.
nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
I think you can do it by Tuesday! 🤭
penewbie
GLP-1 Specialist
Not every day can be pink.
keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
You might have to lower your standards in terms of the quality to take the lead. No more Shakespeare quality writing. Now we’ll get Ben Johnson or Christopher Marlowe quality writing.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
i'm teaching her how to low rent post.
But I already made friends with the boys who talk nerdy to me!
Windingroads06
Less is More
I despise lazy.
Unfortunately, I like him. 🤷♀️ And for the sake of his liver, I'll spoon-feed him if it gets him drinking less. He just had a baby, he's not allowed to kill his organs anymore.
Windingroads06
Less is More
I get it. I have a few friends like that.
keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
Then beefsteak or rawoystereater becomes moderator.
But zippity's the one who can grant mod powers.
Can you imagine what this place would look like without @exploitedworkerbee here? 😱
How the hell did you get posting privileges already??? 🤣
keangkong
Well-Mannered Troll
Without a decent moderator, I'd be gone. Complete free speech on a forum sounds great, in theory. Having a person who moderates too much makes the forum no fun.
I don't know, but no one seems to hate me yet, so, win? One day of reading articles Ghoul's posted and I'm reconsidering my entire approach to sema.
Yeah, I prefer a place somewhere between reddit and whatever the latest iteration of 4chan is.
I have been a lurker on Meso for years.. but I don't have posting privileges on that thread for some reason...
Tell me about the Sema.
I have no clue, even a mod stepped in and said I wasn't in trouble for posting there. Tracy might ban me when/if s/he gets back. I'm going to have to order from a different email. 😂😂
Well, I'm already sold on the filtering and increased dosage size to prevent giving myself an immune response. I've never done a .5 ml shot before, but the logic tracks, as does filtering to avoid anything extra in there that will trigger your bodies immune system. I'd never considered before that UGL vials themselves could be an issue- I'm actually a lot more sold on using the pens now, especially if I filter the peps into them. I bought them mostly because of fomo, and I hate having to leave the pen in for like, ten seconds without it dribbling, but it sounds like the benefits are worth it.
I'm not quite sold on doing a seven day cycle, but that's because I'm using sema for something a little more serious than turning off food noise- and those two days where I have noise again are where I tend to fail.
I somehow hadn't realized the GIP receptor was the one that seems to work best for targeting liver damage and healing. My focus had mostly been on turning off cravings, which is why I gravitated towards sema even though tirz is better for weight loss and side effects- I WANT some of the side effects. So I have to rethink my approach; I want my liver to heal, but tirz also doesn't work as well for noise. My original plan was to stick to sema as long as possible, then move on to tirz, stacking with sema if necessary; I'm putting a little more thought into whether stacking is really the best solution.
I do wonder if I need to try a little harder to get past the tutorial stage of the forum that shall not be named, since I'm under the impression there's a more scientific approach taken there. I don't listen well to 'trust me bro' or 'you're being dumb' but when you back it up with actual studies....
Why even think about stacking when your dosage is still so low? My suggestion would be to increase your dosage first before you consider anything else. You are still SO low.
Oh, that's definitely the plan. I plan to go as high on sema as possible before upgrading. I only added the cagri because the cagrisema is on par with tirz and the studies showed it's great for fatty liver. I'm talking long term. Ideally I won't touch the tirz until/unless I stall out on 2.4sema.
penewbie
GLP-1 Specialist
I'm so lucky I can't post on Meso, I'd be non-stop arguing with those guys all day long.
There is zero merit to the idea that higher volume would decrease immune response. That entire volume is fully absorbed in under a minute anyway.
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I go back and forth on how much I believe what Ghoul is saying. My interpretation is that he's a fairly smart individual that has read a whole bunch of articles and papers and is now very firmly convinced he understands them very well and is an expert on them.
Which, well, I've read a lot of articles and papers and think I understand them decently well, to the point where I modify my behavior and share my opinions on them... but I also make sure to indicate that I'm a layperson presenting my best effort interpretation on what I believe after reading things and why I believe it.
His very matter-of-fact attitude about just how right he is on every. single. subject. makes me a bit uncomfortable.
Which, well, I've read a lot of articles and papers and think I understand them decently well, to the point where I modify my behavior and share my opinions on them... but I also make sure to indicate that I'm a layperson presenting my best effort interpretation on what I believe after reading things and why I believe it.
His very matter-of-fact attitude about just how right he is on every. single. subject. makes me a bit uncomfortable.
My understanding is all of the immunogenicity stuff is based off of what we've seen in some animal studies specifically with hgh, e.g. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19569057/
I don't know that there is anything resembling settled science around it for humans with hgh, much less other peptides and proteins.
I have a ton of articles open to explore later. I'm not exactly a genius so I have to do more reading to come to my own conclusion, but it makes sense to me that more concentrated = more clumping = stronger immune reaction. I keep my doses small because I'm a weenie and big shots are scary, but if the science backs it up I'll listen.
I'm not there to argue, I'm there to learn. I'm pleasantly surprised by the level of research these guys are doing, my ex who used AAS was definitely dumb as a brick and that colored my impression going in.
There's a reason I have that I'm stupid in my signature. I can accidentally sound like I know what I'm doing. I don't.
The amount of care that pharma puts into avoiding immunogenicity makes me feel like maybe it's more of a concern than I'd given thought to. He's posted a ton of stuff on it and it requires more reading for me to decide if it makes sense to actually be concerned. That being said I don't see any problem with being more stringent with safety stuff other than it's annoying and I'm lazy. It's not like I'm paying out the ass for any of my supplies.
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penewbie
GLP-1 Specialist
Sure, intuitively it makes sense. Yet EL is doing tirz at 30mg/ml, and is moving on to 50mg/ml for their increased dosage trials. Meanwhile NN is doing sema at 3.2mg/ml, and presumably testing out 3x that for their own increase dosage trials.
So, the increased concentrations doesn't seem to concern them as much as it does ghoul.
Yeah, that's fair. Like I said, I have to look into it. My doses are 5x smaller than he's suggesting, right now my .375mg dose of sema is 15u. I'm going to have to do the math. He's also made some points about how your body will absorb it at a different rate, and that your body will absorb it faster if it's in a smaller dose of liquid. I'm thinking along the lines of how you don't crush ER pills, because the absorption rate is part of how it works.
I'm not trying to make any claims either way. I'm just saying I've got more rabbit holes to go down.
Edit: absorption not abortion. Oops.
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