SS-31 and Mots-c Protocol

[bikerchick]

Quick few questions for those with more knowledge and experience on these two.

I am looking for the energy benefits of this protocol, primarily.

In the attached picture and focusing on the Mots-C and Humanin protocol section (I will not be doing the Humanin portion, just the ss-31 and Mots-C). I have a few questions.

1. When it says 2 months of SS-31 - does this mean do two cycles of one of the above listed SS-31 dosing of 4mg per day for 10 -20 days or so 4mg per day for 2 full months?

2. The next instruction says, after one month start Mots-C....does that mean after you complete the 2 full months or cycles of SS-31 wait one month and then start Mots-C? Or does it mean after one month of the 2 month SS-31 dosing start Mots-C dosing (essentially taking ss-31 and Mots-C at the same time for one month)?

3. The Mots-C dosing would be 5mg 3x a week for 4 weeks and then 5mg weekly for 4 weeks, correct? Since not doing Humanin I continue with Mots-C 5mg once a week for an additional month then stop for a month and restart the protocol?

Any clarity/feedback on my questions would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[noteablequotable]

There should be overlap, so
1 month ss-31
1 month ss-31 and mots
1 month mots

That's what some recommend anyway

 

[bikerchick]

There should be overlap, so
1 month ss-31
1 month ss-31 and mots
1 month mots

That's what some recommend anyway

Thank you, I wasn't sure if there was overlap or not.

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Is it better to inject motsc SQ or IM? My injection site really hurts following SQ administration of motsc.

 

[bikerchick]

Is it better to inject motsc SQ or IM? My injection site really hurts following SQ administration of motsc.

SQ is how I do it and Mots does have a bit of a bite to it. It doesn't sting while I'm injecting but a couple minutes after the injection for about 20 to 30 minutes it is stinging but then goes away. Nothing too bad overall.

 

[MingHenry]

Quick few questions for those with more knowledge and experience on these two.

I am looking for the energy benefits of this protocol, primarily.

In the attached picture and focusing on the Mots-C and Humanin protocol section (I will not be doing the Humanin portion, just the ss-31 and Mots-C). I have a few questions.

1. When it says 2 months of SS-31 - does this mean do two cycles of one of the above listed SS-31 dosing of 4mg per day for 10 -20 days or so 4mg per day for 2 full months?

2. The next instruction says, after one month start Mots-C....does that mean after you complete the 2 full months or cycles of SS-31 wait one month and then start Mots-C? Or does it mean after one month of the 2 month SS-31 dosing start Mots-C dosing (essentially taking ss-31 and Mots-C at the same time for one month)?

3. The Mots-C dosing would be 5mg 3x a week for 4 weeks and then 5mg weekly for 4 weeks, correct? Since not doing Humanin I continue with Mots-C 5mg once a week for an additional month then stop for a month and restart the protocol?

Any clarity/feedback on my questions would be appreciated. Thanks

I've been reading/researching and will be starting the ss31/mots and then NAD+ protocol soon, and what I've seen elsewhere, but also here, is that some are finding starting ss31 at 4mg is too high for them. And they start lower and titrate up, some get to 4mg, some stay at 3mg or lower. Also there is anecdotal evidence that I've read that many do well and get all the same benefits dosing at 500mcg or 1mg. Personally, I'll be starting lower to see how it feels.

 

[GimmeABreak]

I've been reading/researching and will be starting the ss31/mots and then NAD+ protocol soon, and what I've seen elsewhere, but also here, is that some are finding starting ss31 at 4mg is too high for them. And they start lower and titrate up, some get to 4mg, some stay at 3mg or lower. Also there is anecdotal evidence that I've read that many do well and get all the same benefits dosing at 500mcg or 1mg. Personally, I'll be starting lower to see how it feels.

I started at .5 and titrated up to 4mg over about two weeks.

 

[noteablequotable]

I've been reading/researching and will be starting the ss31/mots and then NAD+ protocol soon, and what I've seen elsewhere, but also here, is that some are finding starting ss31 at 4mg is too high for them. And they start lower and titrate up, some get to 4mg, some stay at 3mg or lower. Also there is anecdotal evidence that I've read that many do well and get all the same benefits dosing at 500mcg or 1mg. Personally, I'll be starting lower to see how it feels.

Interesting. What are the people who say 4mg is too much experiencing? Bad side effects?

 

[GimmeABreak]

Interesting. What are the people who say 4mg is too much experiencing? Bad side effects?

For me, nothing bad, just a lack of being able to focus. I started low (like I do with all new peps) at .5, then titrated up daily. The below titration is what felt ok to me. YMMV.

I will probably start at 2mg and titrate up faster for my second round which I plan to start soon.

 

[HoneyBeez]

Interesting. What are the people who say 4mg is too much experiencing? Bad side effects?

I likely titrated up too quickly, but at 4mg I had terrible headaches and dizziness. At one point I felt flushed like I fever. I paused for about a week and restarted today at 500mcg. Going to go up very slowly this time.

 

[AllGlory2God]

Is it better to inject motsc SQ or IM? My injection site really hurts following SQ administration of motsc.

I do sq always in my stomach, it always feels like a sting no matter the vendor. For me it disappears after an hour

 

[Valerie]

Quick few questions for those with more knowledge and experience on these two.

I am looking for the energy benefits of this protocol, primarily.

In the attached picture and focusing on the Mots-C and Humanin protocol section (I will not be doing the Humanin portion, just the ss-31 and Mots-C). I have a few questions.

1. When it says 2 months of SS-31 - does this mean do two cycles of one of the above listed SS-31 dosing of 4mg per day for 10 -20 days or so 4mg per day for 2 full months?

2. The next instruction says, after one month start Mots-C....does that mean after you complete the 2 full months or cycles of SS-31 wait one month and then start Mots-C? Or does it mean after one month of the 2 month SS-31 dosing start Mots-C dosing (essentially taking ss-31 and Mots-C at the same time for one month)?

3. The Mots-C dosing would be 5mg 3x a week for 4 weeks and then 5mg weekly for 4 weeks, correct? Since not doing Humanin I continue with Mots-C 5mg once a week for an additional month then stop for a month and restart the protocol?

Any clarity/feedback on my questions would be appreciated. Thanks

Here's a ss31 mots nad protocol some are personalizing.
My ss31 dose began at 1mg and I chose to titrate up to 3mg max.
Jay Cambell and Hunter Williams protocol doses are always more aggressive then say Dr Seeds. They may be going for an increased athletic performance effect and the later may be an anti aging and/or general repair effect; speculating. I suspect dosing for men and dosing for women based on kgs may be different as well.
Part of testing is finding personal sweet spot dosing.

 

[bikerchick]

Here's a ss31 mots nad protocol some are personalizing.
My ss31 dose began at 1mg and I chose to titrate up to 3mg max.
Jay Cambell and Hunter Williams protocol doses are always more aggressive then say Dr Seeds. They may be going for an increased athletic performance effect and the later may be an anti aging and/or general repair effect; speculating. I suspect dosing for men and dosing for women based on kgs may be different as well.
Part of testing is finding personal sweet spot dosing.

Thanks for the protocol, I'm going to be adding NAD+ and this is very helpful. I'm just waiting for the supply to come in and then I'll start.

BTW, I'm looking for the energy benefits. How has this protocol worked for you?

 

[Valerie]

Thanks for the protocol, I'm going to be adding NAD+ and this is very helpful. I'm just waiting for the supply to come in and then I'll start.

BTW, I'm looking for the energy benefits. How has this protocol worked for you?

I've researched Lipo C , nad+ and mots c. I used them "as needed" without a "protocol."

I do alternate nad and lipo c during the week and take weekends off. My primary doesn't like my vit b levels sky high even tho vit B is water soluble, so I'm not aggressive with lipo C. It does give me energy. My dosing is 30-50ml. Some researchers take 100mg a day of NAD and/or Lipo c.

Mots C I've researched once. Dose was very low; 250msg. I felt like I was running on a treadmill only I was sitting at my desk looking like I took some speed I think. lol. My heart rate jumped, I felt flushed and warmer and I was really hungry. I could tell it reved up my metabolism! Be great for working out. It also gave me a dull headache.
So this time I'm running SS31 first and then laying in Mots C (which is recommended) with caution and on a day off lol. I'm still in my ss31 prep phase. I take it in the morning. I wasn't expecting to "feel" it but it does provide slow releases energy. I felt it more in the beginning then now. I'm 12 days in.

 

[bikerchick]

I've researched Lipo C , nad+ and mots c. I used them "as needed" without a "protocol."

I do alternate nad and lipo c during the week and take weekends off. My primary doesn't like my vit b levels sky high even tho vit B is water soluble, so I'm not aggressive with lipo C. It does give me energy. My dosing is 30-50ml. Some researchers take 100mg a day of NAD and/or Lipo c.

Mots C I've researched once. Dose was very low; 250msg. I felt like I was running on a treadmill only I was sitting at my desk looking like I took some speed I think. lol. My heart rate jumped, I felt flushed and warmer and I was really hungry. I could tell it reved up my metabolism! Be great for working out. It also gave me a dull headache.
So this time I'm running SS31 first and then laying in Mots C (which is recommended) with caution and on a day off lol. I'm still in my ss31 prep phase. I take it in the morning. I wasn't expecting to "feel" it but it does provide slow releases energy. I felt it more in the beginning then now. I'm 12 days in.

I just finished my first protocol with Mots-c (5mg to 10mg MWF for 1 month and then 10mg weekly for 1 month). I didn't feel any energy boost or anything from it. So now I'm waiting on SS-31, more Mots-c, and NAD+ to arrive. I'll try the SS-31/Mots-c protocol and include NAD+ daily to see if that helps. I'm just waiting for the slow boat from CN to arrive.

I'm hoping this combo works for me. If not then I'll try Lipo-c.

 

[AllGlory2God]

I just finished my first protocol with Mots-c (5mg to 10mg MWF for 1 month and then 10mg weekly for 1 month). I didn't feel any energy boost or anything from it. So now I'm waiting on SS-31, more Mots-c, and NAD+ to arrive. I'll try the SS-31/Mots-c protocol and include NAD+ daily to see if that helps. I'm just waiting for the slow boat from CN to arrive.

I'm hoping this combo works for me. If not then I'll try Lipo-c.

30-50ml or mg for Lipo c? I take 50mg 4x week.
I noticed I sweat more on the days I take mots-c and I’m warmer that day. I do like my training sessions on it too.