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Fonkymonky
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I assumed that was the case. I think it is probably more dangerous to use tools that are not legit than to use anything at all.
dionysos
GLP-1 Novice
As an advocate of Quality Awareness in the research peptide marketplace I am certainly on the side of sterile, non-pyrogenic injectables. It would please me if all vendors chose to test all peptide batches they sell.
Adding nuance, I am amazed at how few reported instances of infection I find when browsing through Peptide World online. Perhaps the research peptide products are more sterile than we expect. Or it is really difficult to become infected via sub-Q injections. I don’t pretend to have an answer here and I’ve not seen any serious studies that address these issues.
My wife has used only Aminos Research semaglutide for about a year now; it is her only injectable med. We do not plan to change her supplier.
I’ve used AR and seven other vendors (including one really sketchy supplier) in my GLP1 Grand Tour + GLOW + it’s none of your damn business peptide research experiences 😬
I have not felt it necessary to demand sterility tests on six of these product suppliers. With the seventh it was far to late when I realized there might be risk to have made any difference. I used the sketchy products, saved money, had good weight loss, and suffered no injuries.
Do I recommend that you buy from untested sketchy vendors to save money?
I DO NOT!
Do I worry about sterility issues at AR, Skye, Tydes, Polaris and other top QA Vendors?
I DO NOT!
Adding nuance, I am amazed at how few reported instances of infection I find when browsing through Peptide World online. Perhaps the research peptide products are more sterile than we expect. Or it is really difficult to become infected via sub-Q injections. I don’t pretend to have an answer here and I’ve not seen any serious studies that address these issues.
My wife has used only Aminos Research semaglutide for about a year now; it is her only injectable med. We do not plan to change her supplier.
I’ve used AR and seven other vendors (including one really sketchy supplier) in my GLP1 Grand Tour + GLOW + it’s none of your damn business peptide research experiences 😬
I have not felt it necessary to demand sterility tests on six of these product suppliers. With the seventh it was far to late when I realized there might be risk to have made any difference. I used the sketchy products, saved money, had good weight loss, and suffered no injuries.
Do I recommend that you buy from untested sketchy vendors to save money?
I DO NOT!
Do I worry about sterility issues at AR, Skye, Tydes, Polaris and other top QA Vendors?
I DO NOT!
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Just a counter point on @dionysos and questions. 🤔
Curious what makes AR, Skye, Tydes, Polaris and other top QA Vendors get the check mark for sterile quality...
Have they been testing for sterility all along when they receive their peptides from the Chinese manufacturers?
Or simply because tested product quantity matches claimed quantity so sterility MUST be good?
Or because everyone that has used them hasn't had lots of infections?
Agree Amazon CAN be a crap show with many RESELLERS with questionable made up names and/or potentially counterfeit products...kind of like the ENTIRE China peptide market.
But I also believe there are also many suppliers who appear to be selling their own products on Amazon as well as selling to medical distributors...BH Supplies as an example. Though to be fair because of the way Amazon is I can't guarantee this.
Some things can be a little harder to find especially in smaller quanities from the distributors/supply houses.
At least for me so far I have not found a source for the tiny "sterile" .22um 4mm filters being sold by Peptide Test anywhere so far from a reliable US medical distributor. And the larger diameter ones they seem to want you to buy a minimal of 100+.
At this point I don't know if Peptide Test is actually sterilizing the filters themselves or testing them or taking the Chinese suppliers word on it. So I can't say they are really safer than Cobetter appearing to sell their own product on Amazon or BioMed Scientific doing the same thing.
To be fair since there is no external link to company websites for the resellers on Amazon I am forced to make the assumption that companies like Cobetter, BioMed Scientific, BH Supplies are protecting their names/brands just like other companies would.
Not sure how much I would be thinking about sterility if it hadn't come up in the last month on here and I wasn't scheduled to have my knee replaced and hoping to use peptides to speed up the recovery.
So I guess I am just trying to figure out where I fall on this continuum of sterility safety...
So far I know it is somewhere between nothing pierces my skin unless I am safely inside a sterile operating room and standing on the corner asking the street dealer for a shot of whatever the other guy just had...
On 2nd thought, I know I ain't taken anything from the corner guy...I NEVER TRUSTED HIM! 😛
If we really want to be 100% safe we will have to get the equipment to sterilize everything ourselves...assuming we can trust ourselves not to screw that up. 😉
I would be interested in people listing the suppliers they feel are best for different supplies and also which brands they feel are the GOLD STANDARD.
Curious what makes AR, Skye, Tydes, Polaris and other top QA Vendors get the check mark for sterile quality...
Have they been testing for sterility all along when they receive their peptides from the Chinese manufacturers?
Or simply because tested product quantity matches claimed quantity so sterility MUST be good?
Or because everyone that has used them hasn't had lots of infections?
Agree Amazon CAN be a crap show with many RESELLERS with questionable made up names and/or potentially counterfeit products...kind of like the ENTIRE China peptide market.
But I also believe there are also many suppliers who appear to be selling their own products on Amazon as well as selling to medical distributors...BH Supplies as an example. Though to be fair because of the way Amazon is I can't guarantee this.
Some things can be a little harder to find especially in smaller quanities from the distributors/supply houses.
At least for me so far I have not found a source for the tiny "sterile" .22um 4mm filters being sold by Peptide Test anywhere so far from a reliable US medical distributor. And the larger diameter ones they seem to want you to buy a minimal of 100+.
At this point I don't know if Peptide Test is actually sterilizing the filters themselves or testing them or taking the Chinese suppliers word on it. So I can't say they are really safer than Cobetter appearing to sell their own product on Amazon or BioMed Scientific doing the same thing.
To be fair since there is no external link to company websites for the resellers on Amazon I am forced to make the assumption that companies like Cobetter, BioMed Scientific, BH Supplies are protecting their names/brands just like other companies would.
Not sure how much I would be thinking about sterility if it hadn't come up in the last month on here and I wasn't scheduled to have my knee replaced and hoping to use peptides to speed up the recovery.
So I guess I am just trying to figure out where I fall on this continuum of sterility safety...
So far I know it is somewhere between nothing pierces my skin unless I am safely inside a sterile operating room and standing on the corner asking the street dealer for a shot of whatever the other guy just had...
On 2nd thought, I know I ain't taken anything from the corner guy...I NEVER TRUSTED HIM! 😛
If we really want to be 100% safe we will have to get the equipment to sterilize everything ourselves...assuming we can trust ourselves not to screw that up. 😉
I would be interested in people listing the suppliers they feel are best for different supplies and also which brands they feel are the GOLD STANDARD.
I really like Westend Med for most of the supplies I've been buying. It's more expensive than Amazon but since they're a legit medical supply there's a certain quality standard you get when you order from them.
For supplies I typically consider these brands as the standard:
Syringes/Needles: Easy-Touch, BD as a runner up
BAC Water: Pfizer Hospira
Alcohol Wipes: No preference, whatever's on the shelf at Walmart
I haven't decided on a preference for filters yet but I'm leaning towards the ones peptidetest offers. I've been trying to stay away from the Amazon ones but have found it difficult to source the right filters from other places.
SQ injections are interesting.
According to studies I've seen, around 250k deaths annually in the US alone are attributed to medical errors (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/05/160504085309.htm)
Yet SQ peptide injuries (and even deaths) numbers appear to be so moot that they're not even tracked at this time.
moonpies4misfits
GLP-1 Specialist
I just ordered a box of EasyTouch from them. On sale and was cheaper than my regular source (Total Diabetes Supply). I paid a few extra bucks for faster shipping because I'm ready to set this box of crappy BDs on fire.
Gwenhwyfar227
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I personally use a filter. Always have. Even when I bought from a compounding pharmacy. Yes it is not cheap. But I definitely didn't want to get sick from something not being sterile when I started peps to improve my health. It is not like we are there during the process making these..but I also am like this on many things. Not just peps...it's all a personal decision
Gwenhwyfar227
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I use it to reconstitute since I make batches on my PepPens
Sorry if I missed it somewhere else.
Which filters are you using and from where?
Gwenhwyfar227
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Ha...i have to go and look. I bought a surplus several months ago...
My daughters make fun of my buying bulk in everything...says I am the place everyone wants to be at for the apocalypse 🤣🤣
My daughters make fun of my buying bulk in everything...says I am the place everyone wants to be at for the apocalypse 🤣🤣
Gwenhwyfar227
GLP-1 Enthusiast
It looks like i bought 100 from Amazon. Same place as you linked above.
And a med store another 100. But they no longer carry them.
I figure i will eventually try a local medical supply place here in town that has always been reasonable and see if they are any cheaper
Fonkymonky
GLP-1 Novice
I don't think these would be very effective. 5μm is not sterile. Anything above .22μm will not filter all of the bacteria.
Fonkymonky
GLP-1 Novice
I have no idea whatsoever abou this. So I need at least 22ųm for the filter to be effective? Thanks for the info.
Gwenhwyfar227
GLP-1 Enthusiast
No...these are for pulling liquid. Say from a vial and making sure there are not any glass pieces in your solution
dionysos
GLP-1 Novice
Gwenhwyfar227
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I am...but admitting it is half the battle
I would assume those medical errors include overdosing more hardcore meds?
My opinion on subq is widely frowned upon, I find it to be very low risk. With a couple hundred injections per year on average, most without swabbing neither the vial nor skin I am still infection free.
So statistically I do consider it unlikely to be problematic. Worst I’ve experienced was from a subq testosterone injection, the oil was definitely NOT clean, so that ended up being a bit nastynasty for a while.
It’s individual too I guess, but my understanding is that the risk of infection subq is moderate at most, even if the product isn’t 100% sterile.
(I wipe like a maniac when I do IM though), not because the risk of infection is that much higher, I think it might actually be lower, but if you get an infection IM it’s a bit more problematic
moonpies4misfits
GLP-1 Specialist
These are used to filter out glass glass particles when drawing from an ampule that needs to be cracked open.
I avoid Amazon for syringes, BAC or reconstitution solution, but why would you avoid Amazon for the sterility vials? I buy the Ks-Tek sterile vials I use there. Each individually wrapped and they come in packs of 10.
moonpies4misfits
GLP-1 Specialist
A number of reviews saying they leaked, had particles floating in them, poorly crimped caps. The stopper is brittle, doesn't self heal, splits, and pieces break off into the vial. Just look at all the 1, 2, and 3 star reviews on them.
The few I have used are absolutely fine.
That whole paper is complete garbage science. It’s written by one of the prominent names in the antivax/COVID misinformation movement. The way he came up with the 250k number is absolutely ridiculous and was widely disputed after publication.
Just FYI!
I didn’t even open the url. The number alone is enough to call bullshit
zpped
Moderator
There were a few questions here I'll answer
peptest sells tisch filters which you can buy directly from tisch in pre-sterilised packets but they aren't always in stock and they only sell by the 100.
scientificfilters.com
The cobetter filters on amazon are also considered good but they only have 13mm if you really want 4mm.
the things that matter about being sterile are the 1) filter 2) the needle after the filter and 3) the vial/cartridge
If you want high quality syringes/needles/vials they can be found at lot of medical/lab supply companies that sell online.
peptest sells tisch filters which you can buy directly from tisch in pre-sterilised packets but they aren't always in stock and they only sell by the 100.
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The cobetter filters on amazon are also considered good but they only have 13mm if you really want 4mm.
the things that matter about being sterile are the 1) filter 2) the needle after the filter and 3) the vial/cartridge
If you want high quality syringes/needles/vials they can be found at lot of medical/lab supply companies that sell online.
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Trying not to post any 2020+ study estimates bc they go much higher for the estimates (even with COVID being split away into it's own category by CDC).
To be clear, this is totally not a hill I'm willing to die on. If I'm incorrect with the info I have found, please show otherwise since I want to know the proper info.
BD are lousy and I went to such crazy efforts to source them and paid too much and I keep going back to my Easy Touch syringes!
moonpies4misfits
GLP-1 Specialist
They were a bit more expensive at TDS but not too crazy. Still not worth it though. My new box of EasyTouch should be here tomorrow thank the gods.
How smart you were/are! Until all the sterility issues arose, I thought purity on the COA meant it was pure and sterile. And that you didn't with compound pharmacy product is amazing!
