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Some shit going down with SRY. Details are still emerging.

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.
2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order
3) maybe? got the testing server nuked as retaliation.
 
Some shit going down with SRY. Details are still emerging.

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.

2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order

RE#1 can get them in trouble but even if it doesn't, they are forced to pay postage if they want their goods.

RE #2, supposedly it wasn't just a bad package, but a package intended to be flagged as illegal substances to get the recipient in legal trouble.
 
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Some shit going down with SRY. Details are still emerging.

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.
2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order
3) maybe? got the testing server nuked as retaliation.
this would amount to cutting off their nose to spite their face.

not sure i believe any of it.
 
That is some next level shit right there and I'm never gonna order from them.
100% and I think this might be my exit from the grey market all together. I have a couple years worth of peps as is plus prescription coverage - for now ...

I'm kind of freaked out because I was so close to adding steroids into my peptide order from them last month and I hate that they have my info now. I think I was taking this whole ordeal too lightly and it seems like every other week there is some new disaster we are reading about.
 
this would amount to cutting off their nose to spite their face.

not sure i believe any of it.
Lots of the time these allegations end up being true, I hope it's not the case, but at what point should we boycott a vendor?

So far I've not seem any rumours that made everyone agree to just stop using X vendor, but I feel like it's getting worse by the day.
 
100% and I think this might be my exit from the grey market all together. I have a couple years worth of peps as is plus prescription coverage - for now ...

I'm kind of freaked out because I was so close to adding steroids into my peptide order from them last month and I hate that they have my info now. I think I was taking this whole ordeal too lightly and it seems like every other week there is some new disaster we are reading about.
Adding steroids to your order isn't really a great idea imo. Peptides are not controlled substances, steroids are, so getting it stopped is a bit more of a headache if it happens
 
Some shit going down with SRY. Details are still emerging.

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.
2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order
3) maybe? got the testing server nuked as retaliation.
Their Discord server is like a freaking cult.
 
100% and I think this might be my exit from the grey market all together. I have a couple years worth of peps as is plus prescription coverage - for now ...

I'm kind of freaked out because I was so close to adding steroids into my peptide order from them last month and I hate that they have my info now. I think I was taking this whole ordeal too lightly and it seems like every other week there is some new disaster we are reading about.

I'm making my exit as well. I've started one order I don't intend to back out of but then I'm going to sit on what I have for as long as I can. I actually just started the process of trying to find new manufacturers so that I can buy more niche peps but that project is now on ice.

My circle of trust has also gotten significantly smaller. It's been reduced to:

@Bacchus
ASC
Skye Peptides
 
Some shit going down with SRY. Details are still emerging.

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.
2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order
3) maybe? got the testing server nuked as retaliation.

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.

How much of this do we know happened? I heard that there is at least person who was sent a package with fake postage. Are there more? Sounds like it might just be an employee. How has SRY responded to this?

2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order.
This sounds unlikely. Doing so would burn a customer. Also, these companies want to avoid attracting attention and meriting retaliation. How sure are we of this?

3) maybe? got the testing server nuked as retaliation.

Sounds like something a competitor would do instead.
 
I'm making my exit as well. I've started one order I don't intend to back out of but then I'm going to sit on what I have for as long as I can. I actually just started the process of trying to find new manufacturers so that I can buy more niche peps but that project is now on ice.

My circle of trust has also gotten significantly smaller. It's been reduced to:

@Bacchus
ASC
Skye Peptides
I only trust salespeople who tell me I'm their friend.
 
this would amount to cutting off their nose to spite their face.

not sure i believe any of it.
I don't believe it. I should add that a few days before the FDA said that it was removing tirzepatide from its shortage list, I said there was no way that would occur for at least a few months. In other words, I don't have the best track record on these things. Also, I wrongly stated that the letters from Eli Lilly asking for patients using compounded tirzepatide to snitch on their doctors were so poorly worded that they had to be forgeries. Fortunately, I made those stupid posts in other forums using a different username and photo. (Spoiler alert: My photo in this forum is not an authentic picture of me.)
 
I'm beginning to feel the only company that cares about my well being, rather than profits, is Eli Lilly.
I think I figured out your other username! I feel like a detective now.
I don't believe it. I should add that a few days before the FDA said that it was removing tirzepatide from its shortage list, I said there was no way that would occur for at least a few months. In other words, I don't have the best track record on these things. Also, I wrongly stated that the letters from Eli Lilly asking for patients using compounded tirzepatide to snitch on their doctors were so poorly worded that they had to be forgeries. Fortunately, I made those stupid posts in other forums using a different username and photo. (Spoiler alert: My photo in this forum is not an authentic picture of me.)
I was really hoping I was talking to a nose picking gorilla
 
1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.

How much of this do we know happened? I heard that there is at least person who was sent a package with fake postage. Are there more? Sounds like it might just be an employee. How has SRY responded to this?

2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order.
This sounds unlikely. Doing so would burn a customer. Also, these companies want to avoid attracting attention and meriting retaliation. How sure are we of this?

3) maybe? got the testing server nuked as retaliation.

Sounds like something a competitor would do instead.
1) reported by multiple people on different sites. photo from at least one person on meso.

2)of course it's going to burn the customer. it's intentionally malicious. its called a hot package and its done to punish someone for causing trouble and make them go away. No I don't have proof but I trust the person making the accusation.

3) could be completely unrelated too and we'll never actually know, but who do you think is a competitor to a testing server. It doesn't actually shut them down its just a pain in the ass for the mods for a couple days.


Edit to add: I'm not here to convince anyone. I believe it and I've done my part in passing the information along.
 
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1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.

How much of this do we know happened? I heard that there is at least person who was sent a package with fake postage. Are there more? Sounds like it might just be an employee. How has SRY responded to this?
Apparently Curtis got canned.. that was SRY's response..

They "changed warehouse" ... I think that's what I saw..
 
Apparently Curtis got canned.. that was SRY's response..

They "changed warehouse" ... I think that's what I saw..
thats all well and good, and if we believed it was a rogue salesperson then maybe they could be forgiven. But the company being under investigation for the opioid charges really pushes this one into ultra sketchy territory.
 
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thats all well and good, and if we believed it was a rogue salesperson then maybe they could be forgiven. But the company being under investigation for the fent precursor charges really pushes this one into ultra sketchy territory.
it's just one blunder after another.. at this point we know what that S in SRY stands for.. and it's nothing good 🙂
 
I must be in the minority here so far. I am on the petide.chat / discord channel and I see a good amount of communication and attempts to right the ship from them.

With the postage thing, I have seen literally ONE person have this problem. I got my order, albeit delayed, but zero issues with postage.

Then there was a supposed issue where someone got reta instead of tirz. At least one person supposedly involved in that had bunk lab data, which was debunked by Janoshik, though another person's claim to this may be legitimate. It was discussed openly and addressed in their channel with SRY offering to reimburse testing costs. That doesn't seem like a company trying to hide their mistakes and discredit customers to me.

I have not heard about this "hot package" thing. I am genuinely interested to see the evidence. It is not that I don't believe it, I just want to evaluate for my own satisfaction. Same thing for the testing server thing. I am new here, and don't even know what this testing server is. Genuinely curious for myself if anyone wants to share. As many tools i can have to make an informed decision when I am ultimately buying grey market goods from Chinese drug dealers is good.

For my two cents, ALL of these vendors should fall under heavy scrutiny, SRY included. I have just yet to see another vendor that openly discusses their problems and shares their solutions as much as SRY.. so far. To me, that is incredibly valuable when dealing with the grey market, though their openness definitely leaves them more vulnerable to criticism. On the opposite side of the spectrum, I have seen another very popular vendor shut their discussion channel down and repeatedly call their customers stupid whenever they encounter an issue.
 
I must be in the minority here so far. I am on the petide.chat / discord channel and I see a good amount of communication and attempts to right the ship from them.

With the postage thing, I have seen literally ONE person have this problem. I got my order, albeit delayed, but zero issues with postage.

Then there was a supposed issue where someone got reta instead of tirz. At least one person supposedly involved in that had bunk lab data, which was debunked by Janoshik, though another person's claim to this may be legitimate. It was discussed openly and addressed in their channel with SRY offering to reimburse testing costs. That doesn't seem like a company trying to hide their mistakes and discredit customers to me.

I have not heard about this "hot package" thing. I am genuinely interested to see the evidence. It is not that i don't believe it, I just want to evaluate for my own satisfaction. Same thing for the testing server thing. I am new here, and don't even know what this testing server is. Genuinely curious for myself if anyone wants to share. As many tools i can have to make an informed decision when I am ultimately buying grey market goods from Chinese drug dealers is good.

For my two cents, ALL of these vendors should fall under heavy scrutiny, SRY included. I have just yet to see another vendor that openly discusses their problems and shares their solutions as much as SRY.. so far. To me, that is incredibly valuable when dealing with the grey market, though their openness definitely leaves them more vulnerable to criticism. On the opposite side of the spectrum, I have seen another very popular vendor shut their discussion channel down and repeatedly call their customers stupid whenever they encounter an issue.
i agree, there are 1000s of people out there ordering from them and some have mental disorders.
 
i agree, there are 1000s of people out there ordering from them and some have mental disorders.
The person who had the hot package issue is one of the most respected, trustworthy members of the peptide community. Not a rando nutter. Not trying to be cagey about it all, I just don’t know whether he wants to be named on open forums so withholding the name. But anyone in the know will agree, totally stand up, level-headed dude not prone to weird accusations, and has been involved in this world for many years
 
We're so cooked

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i agree, there are 1000s of people out there ordering from them and some have mental disorders.
I don’t think that’s a fair statement either. I think skepticism is healthy. With the current issues, SRY deserves A LOT of it. But I also don’t believe in throwing the baby out with the bath water.. yet anyway. Others obviously disagree. Far be it from me to say they’re wrong. I’ll just advocate for the positives I see when I see them. And for a grey market Chinese drug dealer, they at least SEEM interested in engaging the community and righting their wrongs. I’m open to suggestions of others, truly. I’m not a fan boy. I am very much new to this.
 
The person who had the hot package issue is one of the most respected, trustworthy members of the peptide community. Not a rando nutter. Not trying to be cagey about it all, I just don’t know whether he wants to be named on open forums so withholding the name. But anyone in the know will agree, totally stand up, level-headed dude not prone to weird accusations, and has been involved in this world for many years
I’m genuinely interested in this, as it absolutely would be a trust breaker for me. I completely respect you not wanting to out them. But I’d be welcome to a private conversation about it to help me make better informed decisions going forward. Like I said, I’m pretty new to this community.
 
RE#1 can get them in trouble but even if it doesn't, they are forced to pay postage if they want their goods.

RE #2, supposedly it wasn't just a bad package, but a package intended to be flagged as illegal substances to get the recipient in legal trouble.
Why wouldn't SRY get in trouble for lying on the customs declaration in China for this though? Did they say "beauty products" then stamp "STEROIDS" on the box?
 
The person who had the hot package issue is one of the most respected, trustworthy members of the peptide community. Not a rando nutter. Not trying to be cagey about it all, I just don’t know whether he wants to be named on open forums so withholding the name. But anyone in the know will agree, totally stand up, level-headed dude not prone to weird accusations, and has been involved in this world for many years
So was this hot pack thing discussed privately, not publicly, in any forum, discord, or telegram?
 
So was this hot pack thing discussed privately, not publicly, in any forum, discord, or telegram?
I think most of it was discussed on the testing group just before it got nuked. More conversations about it in the usual places.
 
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The person who had the hot package issue is one of the most respected, trustworthy members of the peptide community. Not a rando nutter. Not trying to be cagey about it all, I just don’t know whether he wants to be named on open forums so withholding the name. But anyone in the know will agree, totally stand up, level-headed dude not prone to weird accusations, and has been involved in this world for many years
Thanks. I do respect your opinion in the matter. I thought the whole thing was made up beforehand; it sounded too absurd. However, considering what you say, on balance, I find that what was described likely happened. I find that happens often concerning this area: I hear about something that people here are all worked up about but which sounds fishy to me. However, the folks here turn out to be right.

2024-12-11, 5:51 pm PST: What I wrote didn't age well.
 
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I have no idea if the hot package thing is true, but at this point, there have been too many issues with SRY that I don't see a point in ordering from them again. There are too many other reliable vendors not involved in multiple scandals that I can order from rather than ordering from a place that can't even go a few days without breaking news.
 
Some shit going down with SRY. Details are still emerging.

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.
2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order
3) maybe? got the testing server nuked as retaliation.

can someone share more details about #2? did the person telling this story share any details about why sry was mad at them?
 
Here is Alan's response on the SRY Discord for anyone who didn't see it:

"First of all, in response to the incident with a person I recently removed from the server, I admit that I was controlled by my emotions. I was very depressed and I was frustrated. Someone, who had never purchased from me and therefore was never a customer, attacked my members and insulted me. I responded to the abusive words. I think this is wrong. I should have solved it in a better way and I apologize for not being as professional about it as I should have been.
Second, there are allegations against me and SRY being made. Allegations saying we send illegal drugs, labeled and declared as such, to people in order to get those people in trouble with the government and customs. The allegations are false, unequivocally false. I have never sent any such labeled and declared illegal products to any customer's address. This is very strict in China, which is not good for me or SRY. No official proof has been provided demonstrating that I or SRY did such actions. Again, these are false allegations. You can rest assured, I nor SRY would do such things. I don't need to do that. Doing that would not be good for any company. There would be no useful purpose in performing such actions.

In addition, regarding the postage, I made an announcement. If anyone meets the post office to collect postage, please contact me, with receipts showing it was for a SRY package, and I will bear all the expenses. After consulting the American warehouse, I was told that the post office would spot-check the packages to check whether the weight shown on the label matches the actual weight of the package and check whether the label name matches the actual name. If it is different, it will lead to new bills. “Fake postage” is not what happened. However, I have replaced the American warehouse to prevent similar things from happening again and will continue to address concerns if any more pop up.

Rest assured, in the future, I will control my emotions and enhance my expressive ability. My reputation is important and my true actions and how I take care of you, my customers, speaks more loudly than false accusations can speak. Thank you for your support and understanding!"
 
I think most of it was discussed on the testing group just before it got nuked. More conversations about it in the usual places.
I found a discussion in The Swiss with the person, who sure seems to have made it all up — along with his name? — because he’s peeved about something. That appears to be the consensus, so the representation that the person is very well respected seems…. Really off.
 
I found a discussion in The Swiss with the person, who sure seems to have made it all up — along with his name? — because he’s peeved about something. That appears to be the consensus, so the representation that the person is very well respected seems…. Really off.

I'll share what I posted in the other forum:

Imperfect victim =|= lying victim. It's clear he was definitely giving Alan a hard time, and Alan definitely got pissed off. We know he got a letter from customs, and we know that Alan did send at least one message demanding his new address for undisclosed reasons.

That's probably enough for me to avoid SRY even without more information.

I don't think we're likely to get more information than that in part because of the dynamics here. It's clear that there's (another) important split in the community
 
I believe the smear campaign on SRYLAB is fake news.

The story doesn't make logical sense and it doesn't pass Hanlon's Razor. Someone who has self-admittedly received 20+ customs letters already receives one more. There's absolutely no way to attribute this behavior and action to Alan.

Long story short, it is my belief by the evidence I have seen that this person falsely accused Alan of hotpacking. And was unable to furnish any evidence to prove this allegation.

Besides, why would you hotpack someone with a box marked "steroids"? Hypothetically, if anyone was in a position and motivated to do such a abhorrent task, wouldn't you put something harder than "steroids" in the pack? Why would Alan spend 50 dollars to hotpack someone when it just results in a toothless letter from customs?

Alan has pledged to make people whole who were shipped items that were not accurately weighed and short on postage. The story of "counterfeit" postage seems to be a stretch, and the items were simply underweight and shipped Ground Advantage. Shipping is expensive so the difference between 12 an 13 ounces is about a buck, and it just skyrockets up to a pound. So I assume it was an honest mistake by his US Warehouse shipping department. Perhaps a scale is in order, or a flat rate box?

And for the record. If there was wrong doing here, I'd grab a pitchfork as fast as anyone and fry Alan/SRYLAB. However, I just was unable to make sense of the narrative. Not to mention this "hotpacking" incident was over a month ago, so why are we hearing about it now. And when pressed for proof (such as redacted letter from customs, or more incriminating screenshots) the person became defensive and withdrew from the conversation.

That's more words than I've ever typed on here.

EDIT: As for Alan asking for a "new" address. The screenshot only shows Alan asking for an address. Which based on the conversation, and Alan revealing his own location/address, was so one of the two could fly over to eachother so they could scrap it out. I think Alan was just a victim of his own anger towards this troll account and his words were manipulated into "hotpacking" for the damage to their brand and business. tl/dr. Just two people half a world away wanting to kick each others ass.

And why would you give someone your address when asked if you didn't order anything? Again, narrative doesn't make sense.
 
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Here is Alan's response on the SRY Discord for anyone who didn't see it:

"First of all, in response to the incident with a person I recently removed from the server, I admit that I was controlled by my emotions. I was very depressed and I was frustrated. Someone, who had never purchased from me and therefore was never a customer, attacked my members and insulted me. I responded to the abusive words. I think this is wrong. I should have solved it in a better way and I apologize for not being as professional about it as I should have been.
Second, there are allegations against me and SRY being made. Allegations saying we send illegal drugs, labeled and declared as such, to people in order to get those people in trouble with the government and customs. The allegations are false, unequivocally false. I have never sent any such labeled and declared illegal products to any customer's address. This is very strict in China, which is not good for me or SRY. No official proof has been provided demonstrating that I or SRY did such actions. Again, these are false allegations. You can rest assured, I nor SRY would do such things. I don't need to do that. Doing that would not be good for any company. There would be no useful purpose in performing such actions.

In addition, regarding the postage, I made an announcement. If anyone meets the post office to collect postage, please contact me, with receipts showing it was for a SRY package, and I will bear all the expenses. After consulting the American warehouse, I was told that the post office would spot-check the packages to check whether the weight shown on the label matches the actual weight of the package and check whether the label name matches the actual name. If it is different, it will lead to new bills. “Fake postage” is not what happened. However, I have replaced the American warehouse to prevent similar things from happening again and will continue to address concerns if any more pop up.

Rest assured, in the future, I will control my emotions and enhance my expressive ability. My reputation is important and my true actions and how I take care of you, my customers, speaks more loudly than false accusations can speak. Thank you for your support and understanding!"
I've been all over the map on this one. I posted something contrary to what I'm writing now just a few hours ago. However, at the present time, I'm willing to give SRY the benefit of the doubt. Or I'd be willing to give SRY the benefit of the doubt if not for the fact that I did not have about 2 months of Zepbound in the refrigerator, about 3 months of compounded tirzepatide in the refrigerator, and 1 year, 8 months of tirzepatide vials in the freezer (assuming that I went up to 15 mg per week; I'm currently taking 5 mg). I also note that SRY appears to be the least expensive reliable vendor other than QSC; I made two recent purchases, one from SRY and one from QSC. Although what I bought from them was identical, it was cheaper from SRY. I do think SRY should do more than reimburse people who had to pay missing postage; perhaps giving them a $25 credit wouuld be in order. I would like for Alan to respond in the Vendor Connection forum here; I had to rely on int96 to post this for me to learn Alan's response.
 
I believe the smear campaign on SRYLAB is fake news.

The story doesn't make logical sense and it doesn't pass Hanlon's Razor. Someone who has self-admittedly received 20+ customs letters already receives one more. There's absolutely no way to attribute this behavior and action to Alan.

Long story short, it is my belief by the evidence I have seen that this person falsely accused Alan of hotpacking. And was unable to furnish any evidence to prove this allegation.

Besides, why would you hotpack someone with a box marked "steroids"? Hypothetically, if anyone was in a position and motivated to do such a abhorrent task, wouldn't you put something harder than "steroids" in the pack? Why would Alan spend 50 dollars to hotpack someone when it just results in a toothless letter from customs?

Alan has pledged to make people whole who were shipped items that were not accurately weighed and short on postage. The story of "counterfeit" postage seems to be a stretch, and the items were simply underweight and shipped Ground Advantage. Shipping is expensive so the difference between 12 an 13 ounces is about a buck, and it just skyrockets up to a pound. So I assume it was an honest mistake by his US Warehouse shipping department. Perhaps a scale is in order, or a flat rate box?

And for the record. If there was wrong doing here, I'd grab a pitchfork as fast as anyone and fry Alan/SRYLAB. However, I just was unable to make sense of the narrative. Not to mention this "hotpacking" incident was over a month ago, so why are we hearing about it now. And when pressed for proof (such as redacted letter from customs, or more incriminating screenshots) the person became defensive and withdrew from the conversation.

That's more words than I've ever typed on here.

EDIT: As for Alan asking for a "new" address. The screenshot only shows Alan asking for an address. Which based on the conversation, and Alan revealing his own location/address, was so one of the two could fly over to eachother so they could scrap it out. I think Alan was just a victim of his own anger towards this troll account and his words were manipulated into "hotpacking" for the damage to their brand and business. tl/dr. Just two people half a world away wanting to kick each others ass.

And why would you give someone your address when asked if you didn't order anything? Again, narrative doesn't make sense.
I can teach you how to be more verbose.
 
1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.

How much of this do we know happened? I heard that there is at least person who was sent a package with fake postage. Are there more? Sounds like it might just be an employee. How has SRY responded to this?

2) Intentionally trying to get a customer in trouble by sending them a bad package they didn't order.
This sounds unlikely. Doing so would burn a customer. Also, these companies want to avoid attracting attention and meriting retaliation. How sure are we of this?

3) maybe? got the testing server nuked as retaliation.

Sounds like something a competitor would do instead.
I have searched and searched for evidence. It looks like to me that it was a disgruntled customer that felt lied to about a purchased that got flagged in customs. There is no way a parcel labeled as narcotics etc to notify the shipping service would even make it out of China or a domestic shipping service. That would mean anyone could just send a package labeled snort candy to any address and get the occupants in trouble? I find that highly unlikely. I would like to see cold hard proof of this. The package? The notice? The conversation?The fine/citation? Anything of the sort.I have placed orders from @Srylucy for several thousand $$ for friends and family for probably close to a year now and I have never had an issue other than a tested vial was under filled for which they refunded. It is so easy to fabricate stories so vile that can cause harm we see it in Today’s world more and more. I have learned not to believe everything from one source. Also a competitor could easily fabricate this to cut out pricing competition.SRY has been keeping QSC busy with promos and price competition. 😏
 

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