What is the strongest concentration that is ok for a vial of Tirzepatide?

IshimaruKenta said:
Overfill changes those calculations, so it's not going to just be 17 units. 🤷‍♂️
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Since there was no mention of overfill I didn't put that into my calculations. Not every batch has a significant amount of overfill and some are even underfilled.

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If the vial is actually 65mg than 17 units is actually 10.9mg. Not that big of a deal really. But if she wants to get as close to 10mg as possible then she should inject 15 units instead.
 
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HoopFan said:

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Think I won't do this at karaoke... everyone's like who's Tracy and mannitol....
 
MsGizmo said:
Since there was no mention of overfill I didn't put that into my calculations. Not every batch has a significant amount of overfill and some are even underfilled.
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But for someone just starting out, they shouldn't assume that it's 60.00mg. Either they're going to take too big of a dose than they're expecting and possibly feel ill, or underdose and think it's not working. Most will be fine if they take a larger dose than expected, but they may be that one that gets ill and then blames gray for causing it. That's all.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I've wondered that before; if there's a point at which it's syrupy from too much mannitol in too little water. Then I thought about injecting myself with mannitol syrup, got grossed out, and just went and did something else.

Edit: Well this is concerning. I punched in the NAD+ reconstitution that I've always seen, which is 3 ml in a 500mg vial, and it has super high risk all over the place.
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That's if you banged all of it 3cc.... or 3 full diabetic syringes.
 
HoopFan said:
That tone absolutely and 100% fit your cat’s expression on profile photo! 🤣🤣

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He's my cat's cat. I got him because my actual cat needs to cuddle for hours and hours a day or he's a wreck, so I got him his own cat so I could have personal space. This was one of the rare moments where my cat's cat was NOT being petted and loved, and OH the displeasure!
 
I thought I wouldn’t like injecting a large number of units, but with the guesswork involved in averaging what we think is the pep content of a vial, I’d prefer to have more BAC (lower concentration) and more units so that being unit or two off poses a significantly less difference in mg than when using less BAC/higher concentration/fewer units.

I’m also using 40-ish units, which I thought would bother me, but it doesn’t at all.
 
HoopFan said:
If you saw my list of calculators I have bookmarked. lol I use them religiously.

Those weren’t answering the safety question about the actual concentration tho.
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Ah. Concentration shouldn't make any difference to safety. I mean in the hospital they will inject medicine into an IV bag. We are just using less water.
 
MsGizmo said:
Ah. Concentration shouldn't make any difference to safety. I mean in the hospital they will inject medicine into an IV bag. We are just using less water.
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Ever heard of Red Man's Syndrome? That's what happens when they slam Vancomycin too quickly into a patient.

They had to dial it back for me to a lighter concentration - my face turned into a giant swollen tomato.

I may have her add a little more BAC to her vial.
 
YoYoFat said:
I thought I wouldn’t like injecting a large number of units, but with the guesswork involved in averaging what we think is the pep content of a vial, I’d prefer to have more BAC (lower concentration) and more units so that being unit or two off poses a significantly less difference in mg than when using less BAC/higher concentration/fewer units.

I’m also using 40-ish units, which I thought would bother me, but it doesn’t at all.
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Good point. I don't think a vial will take more than 2ml of bac, at 1.5 my vials look pretty filled.
 
randompersonrandom said:
He's my cat's cat. I got him because my actual cat needs to cuddle for hours and hours a day or he's a wreck, so I got him his own cat so I could have personal space. This was one of the rare moments where my cat's cat was NOT being petted and loved, and OH the displeasure!
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I have one of those needy boys. He's teetering on turning 20, and has the spirit and look of a seven year old cat. I've had him since he was a baby.

He screams at me while I'm in meetings, so I'll be forced to pick him up. My colleagues expect him every call. lol
 
Ok I had her add 1 more ml to her reconstituted Tirz. So now it’s at at safer 32.5mg/mL concentration. Since our tests showed the vials all were testing at 2.5(ish) overfill, that’s a safe number for her.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
No I get that and probably should consider it. I do the math in my head and estimate. Then I forget my calculations and how much bac I added. Started putting tape and sharpie labels on my vials.
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Yeah, me too. Then I saw the discussion over on Discord in MIX's about label makers ...went and bought a cheapy from Amazon. 😎😉
I like it. I can scan it ( forget what the hell you call those barcode thingies?) and see the Janoshik COA, too. I put the BAC amount used and the units to use for whatever mg I wanted on it.
 
JoonyO said:
Yeah, me too. Then I saw the discussion over on Discord in MIX's about label makers ...went and bought a cheapy from Amazon. 😎😉
I like it. I can scan it ( forget what the hell you call those barcode thingies?) and see the Janoshik COA, too. I put the BAC amount used and the units to use for whatever mg I wanted on it.
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Perfect!
 
MsGizmo said:
Since there was no mention of overfill I didn't put that into my calculations. Not every batch has a significant amount of overfill and some are even underfilled.

edited to add:
If the vial is actually 65mg than 17 units is actually 10.9mg. Not that big of a deal really. But if she wants to get as close to 10mg as possible then she should inject 15 units instead.
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Not that big of a deal to you...but it could be for them. It's better to educate them about the over/underfill and let them see how their body reacts to it, rather than just say, naw you're good. I wouldn't do any calculations unless I saw the COA.

That's my whole point about this. You and others may not have a reaction to an extra milligram or three, but someone else could get ill from it, or think it's not working. Not trying to berate you or anyone, but educate them and let them decide.
 
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