What's so great about pens? (sell me)

[Peps-Enthusiast]

I know nothing about pens, I have no idea how they work or why and when one might want to use them. I definitely know a lot about needles though, and the main thing I know is that I go through a lot of them weekly, and they are fairly cheap.

What's so great about pens?

 

[tcpnomad]

Similar current thread.

 

[BigJDog]

There’s like 5 threads about pens just on the first page brother

 

[Vriende]

There’s like 5 threads about pens just on the first page brother

I put pens in the search bar (magnifying glass above) and clicked the box for titles only -- that is how I found this list --

Search results for query: pens

glp1forum.com

 

[deluge]

Pens speed up the process if you're doing daily pins. You take the time to reconstitute, filter into the pen cartridge, and purge the air. Once you're at that step, it's a 30 sec evolution to pin something.

Before I would have to get out my diabetic syringe, alcohol wipe, wipe the top of the vial, invert, draw, tap out the air, etc. That would take me 2 min's.

Multiply that by some days doing 4 pins (GHK, BPC, TB, and the GLP), and it's a pretty significant time savings.

Yes, it takes time to get the pen set up. But, as I pointed out above, if you're filtering, it really isn't that much more effort in any event.

 

[Peps-Enthusiast]

Pens speed up the process if you're doing daily pins. You take the time to reconstitute, filter into the pen cartridge, and purge the air. Once you're at that step, it's a 30 sec evolution to pin something.

Before I would have to get out my diabetic syringe, alcohol wipe, wipe the top of the vial, invert, draw, tap out the air, etc. That would take me 2 min's.

Multiply that by some days doing 4 pins (GHK, BPC, TB, and the GLP), and it's a pretty significant time savings.

Yes, it takes time to get the pen set up. But, as I pointed out above, if you're filtering, it really isn't that much more effort in any event.

So i pin 10-12 times daily. This seems like a lot of pens. How does one deal with such logistics?

 

[Peps-Enthusiast]

I put pens in the search bar (magnifying glass above) and clicked the box for titles only -- that is how I found this list --

Search results for query: pens

glp1forum.com

And then a slightly different list when I used the term "pen" only

Search results for query: pen

glp1forum.com

Thanks brother, I read them all. They didn't address the point of my post. I have my own unique set of circumstances and questions I would like to explore in my own thread. If you don't like it, then how about just don't respond, and if everyone else feels the same then the thread will die the lonely death it well deserves. I'm all but certain there are many such duplicate threads on myriad topics, yet somehow they live and breathe. Maybe this one will too. Dare to dream.

 

[Vriende]

I have my own unique set of circumstances and questions I would like to explore in my own thread.

Your query was very general. We are trying to help you here. So far you are not making it easy.

Can you help provide us with some specific questions you have? That might guide us if we are going to be more useful to you.

 

[BigJDog]

So i pin 10-12 times daily. This seems like a lot of pens. How does one deal with such logistics?

Bro how in the world did you get to doing 10 injections a day and you aren’t familiar with injections pens yet?

Thanks brother, I read them all. They didn't address the point of my post. I have my own unique set of circumstances and questions I would like to explore in my own thread. If you don't like it, then how about just don't respond, and if everyone else feels the same then the thread will die the lonely death it well deserves. I'm all but certain there are many such duplicate threads on myriad topics, yetsomehow they live and breathe. Maybe this one will too. Dare to dream

You don’t have a point of your post tho. You are asking people to spoon feed you very basic information about the benefit of an injection pen.

 

[miameow]

I’m quite certain that the kind of people who ask questions like this are not suitable candidates for using pens (properly).

 

[tcpnomad]

I’m quite certain that the kind of people who ask questions like this are not suitable candidates for using pens (properly).

Or it's their way of starting their research. You ask a question, hoping for some leads, that you build on with more looking around.

See, things seem all simple and straight forward after we have figured it out. Before, we don't know where to start, or what to even ask or look into. We all go through the same thing. We just forget.

 

[Lovedog100]

I know nothing about pens, I have no idea how they work or why and when one might want to use them. I definitely know a lot about needles though, and the main thing I know is that I go through a lot of them weekly, and they are fairly cheap.

What's so great about pens?

Look on YouTube. I never liked syringes, and it always felt like a junky with my "works" It took me months to get an injector pen from China, with the vials, and needles. OMG what a difference it has made. I take my Tesamorlin and Ipamorlin just before bed while sleepy. Because of that I have made mistakes while reconstituting, or injecting. I have several pens now, each one is labeled with what is in it, and the setting that I need to turn them to before injection. Each one has it's own labeled box and each pen is a different color. No more mistakes when I'm sleepy or drug out from a long day. The pens are easy, just dial it to the setting on the label, and put it to my body and push the button. There is no pain, apprehension, or dread of the process.

I go into my home office to inject. Quite a few times my wife would walk in as I was reconstituting, filling the syringe, or injecting. She always gave me that look like she caught me injecting illegal drugs, and then would say "again" Now the whole process takes less than a minute. She doesn't see the pen the same, and nether do I. I don't get that look any more, or the sound of disapproval as she says "again" I'm sold 100% on injector pens.

 

[BNLFL]

Oh boy, another one that'll likely will get the ignore button.

 

[Peps-Enthusiast]

I’m quite certain that the kind of people who ask questions like this are not suitable candidates for using pens (properly).

Really? Saying i don't know about something and asking a community that has a ton of hands on knowledge disqualifies me from pen usage candidacy? And of this you are "quite certain?".

Okie dokie, i guess I'll just crawl back into my syringe-using hole with the knowledge that i'm just not the right kind of person to use a peptide injection pen, since you said so. Do have any other nuggets of wisdom or life advice I can also benefit from, or is this your only area of expertise?

 

[miameow]

Really? Saying i don't know about something and asking a community that has a ton of hands on knowledge disqualifies me from pen usage candidacy? And of this you are "quite certain?".

Okie dokie, i guess I'll just crawl back into my syringe-using hole with the knowledge that i'm just not the right kind of person to use a peptide injection pen, since you said so. Do have any other nuggets of wisdom or life advice I can also benefit from, or is this your only area of expertise?

I never said that you asking the question personally disqualifies you from using a pen. What I said was that "I’m quite certain the kind of people who ask questions like this are not suitable candidates for using pens properly."

No one is disqualifying you or stopping you from using a pen. My point is that people who don’t use the search function before asking basic repeat questions tend to be a specific demographic, and there’s probably a higher chance of user error with something like an injection pen.

It isn’t a personal attack. I’m just pointing out a general pattern I’ve noticed in this forum and other platforms including Reddit.

 

[Peps-Enthusiast]

I never said that you asking the question personally disqualifies you from using a pen. What I said was that "I’m quite certain the kind of people who ask questions like this are not suitable candidates for using pens properly."

No one is disqualifying you or stopping you from using a pen. My point is that people who don’t use the search function before asking basic repeat questions tend to be a specific demographic, and there’s probably a higher chance of user error with something like an injection pen.

It isn’t a personal attack. I’m just pointing out a general pattern I’ve noticed in this forum and other platforms including Reddit.

It's a personal attack which I don't take personally. When you say "people like this", and I am the person (like this, who asked the question), you can only be speaking directly at me (and perhaps others as well). You say this is a repeat thread, as insofar as pens being involved, I suppose it is. But I did in fact read the other threads, and to be perfectly honest many are fairly disjointed, and do not address the questions I was hoping to drive in this thread, my thread. Perhaps I should have led with "I pin 10-12 times daily, how do you handle that with pens", but I didn't want to pigeon hole myself into that, so i chose to ask more broadly, see how the answers came in, and then follow up with secondary questions.

Somehow, despite being a person "like this", I've managed, to learn all about peptides, how to buy them from China, mastering crypto without being scammed, build a working protocol, successfully reconstitute my vials and pin myself 50-75 times a week without incident, all the while dropping 42lbs in 4 months, but I' just cant seem to ever grasp the complexity of those new fangled fancy pens! God forbid I dont frame my question about pens perfectly, I (we) have to ready your shitty response, as if i just murdered babies or something. Do you comment on every duplicated topic, or am i just special; because i see a lot of duplicated threads with overlapping if not identical subject matter nearly every single day.

I'm glad to see them. Topics need to be renewed, people have new experiences, things change. If no one wanted to respond to this because the topic is oversaturated, then no one would, and your wish would come true. I've mostly been impressed with the community here, and how incredibly supportive everyone is of each other...except you.

You can do better.

 

[HouseCat]

I’d check out this thread - it taught me a lot and gave me the courage to try one myself (I use it for my 2x daily Ipa)

Can someone give me the TLDR on pens
https://glp1forum.com/threads/can-someone-give-me-the-tldr-on-pens.17286/

If you do so many daily pins, you might really like pens! It’s a higher up-front cost but it’s so so easy.

LOL I can see you’re a New Yorker (high five fam)…channel rush hour MTA mode and just let it roll off like a duck’s back 🤣 Said with love and a slice 🍕

EDIT: If your question about managing is about storage, there’s lots of options on Etsy: enclosed cases, closed stands, open stands…Yada yada

 

[indolent]

this thread, my thread

all your threads are belong to @ZippityDooDah

 

[Vriende]

@randompersonrandom
Please report to Aisle 1

 

[miameow]

It's a personal attack which I don't take personally. When you say "people like this", and I am the person (like this, who asked the question), you can only be speaking directly at me (and perhaps others as well). You say this is a repeat thread, as insofar as pens being involved, I suppose it is. But I did in fact read the other threads, and to be perfectly honest many are fairly disjointed, and do not address the questions I was hoping to drive in this thread, my thread. Perhaps I should have led with "I pin 10-12 times daily, how do you handle that with pens", but I didn't want to pigeon hole myself into that, so i chose to ask more broadly, see how the answers came in, and then follow up with secondary questions.

Somehow, despite being a person "like this", I've managed, to learn all about peptides, how to buy them from China, mastering crypto without being scammed, build a working protocol, successfully reconstitute my vials and pin myself 50-75 times a week without incident, all the while dropping 42lbs in 4 months, but I' just cant seem to ever grasp the complexity of those new fangled fancy pens! God forbid I dont frame my question about pens perfectly, I (we) have to ready your shitty response, as if i just murdered babies or something. Do you comment on every duplicated topic, or am i just special; because i see a lot of duplicated threads with overlapping if not identical subject matter nearly every single day.

I'm glad to see them. Topics need to be renewed, people have new experiences, things change. If no one wanted to respond to this because the topic is oversaturated, then no one would, and your wish would come true. I've mostly been impressed with the community here, and how incredibly supportive everyone is of each other...except you.

You can do better.

Your original post opened with “I know nothing about pens” and asked people to “sell me.”

That is what I was responding to.

My point was not that asking a question makes you incompetent, but if someone says they know nothing about pens, they should probably do some basic research before using one, because pens add another layer of possible dosing/user error if someone does not understand concentration, dose per click/unit, priming, cartridge volume, and storage.

If your actual question was, “I pin 10~12 times daily; how do people practically manage that with pens?” then that would have been a much clearer starting point.

Scroll up and you’ll see that the general reaction to your original question, not just from me, was not positive. I’m just more blunt about it.

And no, I don’t comment on every duplicated topic. I commented here because the way the post was framed invited a reaction. You rarely see someone come into a research community and ask people to “sell” them on something. People here generally make their own choices after researching thoroughly and take responsibility for them.

Key takeaway: a badly framed post will usually get badly framed responses. I was commenting on the way the question was asked. You’re the one turning it into a judgment of personality with the following comments; You can do better.

• "I (we) have to ready your shitty response, as if i just murdered babies or something."
• "I've mostly been impressed with the community here, and how incredibly supportive everyone is of each other...except you. You can do better."

Fortunately, I am way too old to really care about what other people think of me, so you can continue your rant and take this whichever direction you want.

 

[Stace_wow]

I was in this forum looking for "if prefilling my syringes, or preloading them for the week" was a good or bad idea. I had a hard time finding the info cause of the vernacular I was using....searches tend to be finicky sometimes.

Anyways, right before I was going to post a question to the group, I found one that told me all I needed to know! Now, I have learned a ton, from this site and others over the last 2 days about pens, and I wasn't even trying.

I've managed, to learn all about peptides, how to buy them from China, mastering crypto without being scammed, build a working protocol, successfully reconstitute my vials and pin myself 50-75 times a week without incident

Your message here comes off as arrogant and condescending. All of us here have done the same...Its not special, its a "requirement" to be in this space.

Good luck to you

 

[Peps-Enthusiast]

all your threads are belong to @ZippityDooDah

without a doubt this is correct.

 

[Peps-Enthusiast]

I was in this forum looking for "if prefilling my syringes, or preloading them for the week" was a good or bad idea. I had a hard time finding the info cause of the vernacular I was using....searches tend to be finicky sometimes.

Anyways, right before I was going to post a question to the group, I found one that told me all I needed to know! Now, I have learned a ton, from this site and others over the last 2 days about pens, and I wasn't even trying.



Your message here comes off as arrogant and condescending. All of us here have done the same...Its not special, its a "requirement" to be in this space.

Good luck to you

perhaps you are right, of course that wasn't borne in a vacuum; but rather in response to unnecessarily negative comment "people like this disqualify themselves from being able to use pens properly". If that comment wasn't made, then my response wouldn't be needed for context. Do you have any commentary or criticism regard her comment, or only mine? Do you find her comment constructive and additive, helpful?

 

[Vriende]

At the risk of repeating myself --
"Your query was very general. We are trying to help you here. So far you are not making it easy.

Can you help provide us with some specific questions you have?
That might guide us if we are going to be more useful to you."

 

[Peps-Enthusiast]

I’d check out this thread - it taught me a lot and gave me the courage to try one myself (I use it for my 2x daily Ipa)

Can someone give me the TLDR on pens
https://glp1forum.com/threads/can-someone-give-me-the-tldr-on-pens.17286/

If you do so many daily pins, you might really like pens! It’s a higher up-front cost but it’s so so easy.

LOL I can see you’re a New Yorker (high five fam)…channel rush hour MTA mode and just let it roll off like a duck’s back 🤣 Said with love and a slice 🍕

EDIT: If your question about managing is about storage, there’s lots of options on Etsy: enclosed cases, closed stands, open stands…Yada yada

I appreciate it. I read that thread, and to be clear for anyone else reading this trainwreck of a thread, i ready every single pen thread. Yes there's plenty of good information to be found, and so perhaps i know a bot more than nothing about [ens at this point, but i wanted to start a thread from scratch, from the perspective of knowing nothing, so it was clean That was obviously a mistake, and mostly I'm happy taking my medicine, but certain comments help no one, and also not shy to point that out. I've seen the mob pile -ons in here on certain threads, some warranted some not. There's plenty about pens that has yet to be discussed, and I have not seen anything about 10-15 pins a day and how anyone manages that with pens. My bad that I didn't lead with that, but i certainly intended to get there (and I in fact did).

If some miserable person needs to make sure everyone shares her misery, i suppose she can do that, but she could also just pass the thread by, not breathe life into it with negative comments, and let it die the death it deserves, if it in fct deserves to.

I appreciate your response.

 

[Peps-Enthusiast]

At the risk of repeating myself --
"Your query was very general. We are trying to help you here. So far you are not making it easy.

Can you help provide us with some specific questions you have?
That might guide us if we are going to be more useful to you."

did that, scroll up. wouldn't want to deny you your hard work of thread-searching like some lazy do nothing. God forbid you make that capitol offense mistake!

 

[miameow]

I’m quite certain that the kind of people who ask questions like this are not suitable candidates for using pens (properly).

Really? Saying i don't know about something and asking a community that has a ton of hands on knowledge disqualifies me from pen usage candidacy? And of this you are "quite certain?".

I never said that you asking the question personally disqualifies you from using a pen. What I said was that "I’m quite certain the kind of people who ask questions like this are not suitable candidates for using pens properly."

perhaps you are right, of course that wasn't borne in a vacuum; but rather in response to unnecessarily negative comment "people like this disqualify themselves from being able to use pens properly". If that comment wasn't made, then my response wouldn't be needed for context.

I think you misunderstand the definition of what a quote is. Paraphrasing and distorting is not a quote and quotation marks do not belong there.

I’m quite certain that the kind of people who ask questions like this are not suitable candidates for using pens (properly).

This is what I said, for the second time.

Do you have any commentary or criticism regard her comment, or only mine? Do you find her comment constructive and additive, helpful?

From personality attacks to gender assumptions. Interesting pivot.
For the record, I am not “her."

 

[Stace_wow]

I agree with her. It also feels like you are attacking her cause this thread didn't go the way you thought it should.

 

[GrandmaJ]

@randompersonrandom All you babe!

 

[tcpnomad]

Have you looked at this thread? LINK

Seems to answer exactly what you are asking. If not, then post any left over questions here.