Thank you SO much! I am just reading your reviews on Reddit. I was going to buy from Hvy or Nexaph but I think I will try this first. I was only paying around $4 from my local Med Spa but this is great... thanks again.
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The ingredients of all these Lipo-C and Mic-Bs seem to be the same, sometimes different mg proportions, sometimes lidocaine, but my lab finds the Pegasus, with the NAD+ magical. The only such product I've seen with the addition of NAD+. In the future my lab might research NAD+ on its own (though the massive daily doses seem over the top), but the lab has just begun a sleep protocol, and the RS wants the right amount of energy added - provided by Pegasus 50 units 3x a week - and not to be so overloaded the sleep protocol is blown out of the water since chronic insomnia etc are issues.
griv-val
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So, I finally tried Pegasus on Saturday, injected 1cc SubQ. It burned like crazy for a few hours. Is this normal?
Has never burned me BUT my RS doesn't use 1cc at a time, way too much volume for my RS, only 0.5, 50 units. If your RS wants 1cc at a time maybe RS should try 2 50 units injections?
griv-val
New Member
Thank you. We'll try that. Have you ever injected Pegasus IM or always SubQ?
Only subq. This lab director is amazed how her RS has no issue with multiple subqs a day but also knows IM would be a mental step too far - hasn't attempted and unlikely ever to do so. Despite RS's ease and dexterity with subq, when her blood is drawn she still must look away. Those who can give themselves IMs are a tougher breed than my RS.
jwillhite6
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I use this one. No sugar and tastes like crap but does the job. Careful when using, it is a concentrate. The same company makes one that is less concentrated. Trace Minerals | 40,000 Volts Liquid Electrolyte Concentrace Drops | Supports Normal Body Hydration and Muscle Function | Ionic Minerals, Magnesium, Potassium | 48 Servings (Pack of 1) https://a.co/d/cY2SnyH
Yeah.. well I really don't need any more insomnia than I already have...
And I screwed up big time. I had it in my cart for 2 days and went to purchase it today... the lurkers must have bought it all because they are now SOLD OUT.
Nikki nik
GLP-1 Specialist
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This is nice to hear
WinterFarce
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I emailed them and it will be back in stock in 2 weeks.
Don't you hate that! It must be a big seller for them but I wondered why so few people know of it - everyone just gets the same Bioboost Plus or mic B and for me they are useless.
So sorry! I wonder if you can get a lipo c and NAD+ and do a blend of some nad+ in it?
That’s what I’m thinking. It’s just handy to have it pre-mixed. I’m already mixing glow, was hoping to be a bit lazy and not have another to mix 😂
Totally understand that! Surprised they don't ship to Canada.
Thank you for sharing this! I have been devouring so much info lately, my husband thinks I am cheating on him! 😂 JK 🙄
I am always on the lookout for better sleep and clean energy.. so it seems from what I am reading from your posts that Pegaus’s Lipo C shot w/NAD+ gives you that kind of energy ish ?
I am super interested in sub q NAD+ because of its regenerative properties, even read it can help slow down aging 🙋♀️ Do you mind me asking what you have found helpful for sleep? Thanks 😊
WinterFarce
New Member
Yes, we are of the same mind. I am looking for something that helps with the energy slump I get with Tirz, and something that aids in a good nights sleep. Hopefully someone. has the answer!
GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
I think that was me. I tried buying two vials of Pegasus yesterday but the site would only let me put one in my cart. Checked back today and it was sold out. I saw a post on Reddit from what appeared to be an insider at the vendor and he/she/they? said it would be back in stock in two weeks or less. I am looking forward to trying it on my RS.
I've been deeply researching - in the real sense, meaning reading everything - about peps for sleep. I have serious chronic insomnia and circadian rhythm disruptions, so this is my intense focus right now. Lots to read on Peppys, along with all the posts, on their io site and on their new Discourse site. For those with serious sleep issues the suggestion is that a higher dose and longer cycle of peps for sleep is usually required. An an FYI, there are myriad protocols with all these peps and trial and error is very much the norm. My lab is starting with DSIP, Epithalon, and then VIP. Started DSIP 7 days ago thinking the cycle would be short-term, a few weeks at 100 mcg, but that won't solve the issues, not enough of a dose, not long enough of a cycle - though even the first dose at 100mcg, the typical starting dose, RS was aware of a calm and relaxed feeling about an hour after taking it. Also trial and error around the timing of the dose - some take it 1-3 hrs before sleep, others in the AM, others in the late afternoon. My lab started with 9pm, then 11:30pm, then 6pm, then 5pm. It's possible 6pm is the right time for this lab. DSIP doesn't help with falling asleep, but provides deeper sleep once sleep is attained. And my RS has felt the deeper sleep since day 1, subjectively felt upon waking, no tracking devices in use, and despite not being able to fall asleep until between 2 and after 4 am all 6 nights DSIP has been researched. Lab started at 100mcg for 4 days, then 200mcg for 2 days, and today 300mcg. DSIP may end up being cycled for a few or several months. Epithalon will be added tomorrow, starting at 300mcg. Often people do 100 mcg for 10 days on 20 days off, monthly, others for a few or more months at a time, others a few times a week... at various dosages. Epithalon can be energizing, won't know until tried, so it could be a dose alongside DSIP at 6pm, or an AM dose. And the cycle likely will run for a few months at least. Once the lab acquires VIP, that will be added in. I still need to read more about VIP dosing and timing and cycling, but it seems the standard dosage is 200-300 or more mcg, in part depending on why it's being researched. Possibly the dose will go up and it might be a 4 week cycle, or it could be longer. Some take it with Epithalon 1-3 hours before sleep, if Epi is not energizing to them. Some in the AM. Many people jump to the duo/duo cjc/ipa and tesa/ipa, one am, the other pm, or vice versa, and those GH secretagogues have other benefits such as tissue repair, fat loss, muscle preservation, etc., but their sleep benefits are definitely secondary.
Obviously, I am putting my hard-earned (hours of reading) knowledge to work here! Perhaps more than you wanted.
And for now I really love Pegasus, gives me daily energy in a great way. Until the lab has their sleep under control - seriously under control - the lab won't research full blown give me all the energy in the world peps like mots-c and NAD+ in massive doses! Too disruptive to the lab at this time. But Pegasus has in 20ml, 20mg of NAD+ and a 50 unit dose 3x a week gives the lab's director just the perfect amount of increased energy, and it makes the lab director so very very happy, apart from the energy. It feels like another magical weapon.
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Wow, thank you so much for all of this information! I can tell you are detail oriented, which I am too!
It is probably one of the things that keeps me awake! Can’t get my brain to shut off sometimes! 🙄 But deeper, rested sleep is exactly what I am looking for! I can usually fall asleep, it is staying asleep that is the problem! I wake up every 1-2 hours & it is frustrating. My husband literally does not wake up, at all…until morning and I am always thinking, man what must that be like?! 😂
I am going to give your post a more detailed read tomorrow. I need to try to start making myself go to sleep ironically enough!
But I wanted to say thank you so much for all of this! I have looked at the other peps you have mentioned & I am also hesitant to try some of those cause if they are too uppity, well I won’t sleep! I hope you get some good sleep tonight! 😊
Yep. I emailed them as well and they said less than 2 weeks. I will be checking every day. I did my last med spa shot yesterday.
Have you tried a weighted blanket? I have the same brain issues, and I notice I sleep deeper and with fewer wakings in the cooler months when I can use my heavy comforter without roasting. One of these days I am going to order one that stays cooler for the rest of the year (it's on the to-do list!).
I have not! But I have always read good things about them! I was always worried they would make me hot, but now you have motivated me to try one! Hell, last night was terrible, I hardly slept at all last night 😩 This is kind of my cycle, I will be on little sleep for 2-3 days, have a busy work day when I am on appointments all day, which equates me walking a ton in hospitals or clinics cause I am in med sales, and then I crash and finally get a decent night’s sleep, and then it starts all over again! But thank you so much for the recommendation! 😊
I hope it helps! 🥰 Too little sleep is literally torture (classified as such by the Geneva Conventions).
moonpies4misfits
GLP-1 Specialist
Oh man the first time I used a weighted blanket it knocked me out almost immediately 😂 Unfortunately I run *very* hot at night even in the colder months. I hear they make cooling ones now so I may look into that.
I'm glad if this is helpful to you! Since you don't have a problem falling asleep, but staying asleep, your lab might want to research DSIP - delta sleep inducing peptide. It helps with deeper sleep, Rem sleep, keeping you asleep. The dosing is small, in mcgs. As I said I started at 100mcg a few hours before I was hoping to go to sleep. Some do one month on and one month off, or once a week, or daily or every 3 days... I can give you more info from what I've read if it's something you decide to try. Many people do like weighted blankets a lot, and say it makes a huge difference, for me, too heavy, too hot, and I feel like I'm being suffocated.
I am determined to get a cooling one by next summer. This time of year, we keep a fan in the window and the bedroom stays in the 50s most nights. Snuggling under the heavy blanket is heavenly.
My old man feels the same as you. That is one of the reasons we each have our own covers for our half of the bed!
You are lucky you don't have to deal with the process of female hormones... I am post menopausal and had to get BHRT to get everything right before I slid into the peptide world. Hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia... absolutely SUCKED... and I went in early (48). I always had sleep problems most of my life but this just exacerbated it to the umpteenth degree. And it is a bitch to find a "menopause specialist". Most docs are not educated.. they literally had about 8 hours of teaching and one of the last studies done was 2002.
I am in healthcare sales & it is wild sometimes how much docs either don’t know or don’t have time to dig into…. We are a world overwhelmed with information, constantly…it is our greatest innovation & sometimes our biggest failing. But about 95% is either not good, biased, or even factual information. Studies are wonderful, but they can be limited in scope, take a long time, and they are expensive. Don’t get me wrong I am glad info is out there, but I do not envy them, hard job man. To keep up, even if they have a specialty, it is a loooot…but on the bright side, for those that are not docs & willing to put in the work, we can find it & advocate for ourselves. We are culture of burnt out people. 😩 Hence why we struggle with sleep!
I don’t know what the solution is 🤷♀️ but I will keep trying ! Lol 😂
LouiseBelcher
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Currenting I'm taking Tirz 6mg once a week. GLOW (GHK-cu 50mg, BPC-157 10mg, TB500 10mg) 5 days a week, NAD+ 50mg twice a week, and BioBoost+ 1ml once a week. For skincare I use Snap-8 and cosmetic GHK-cu. I was also taking Glutathione 200mg twice a week via IM, but I freaked myself out when I hit a blood vessel the other week, so I've stopped it. I tried SQ a couple of times, but it hurts like hell, so it's on the back burner for now.
I just ordered some SS-31 and I'll probably follow it with Mots-c. I'm also researching (reading) about Thymalin and Epithalon.
My main goals are anti-aging and energy and focus. The BioBoost doesn't do anything for me in the energy department, but I'm going to finish out the vial I have. I'm also a single mom of two who works full time and is a full-time student with a 10-month-old puppy. So, I think chronic fatigue is just a byproduct of my life at the moment.
I just ordered some SS-31 and I'll probably follow it with Mots-c. I'm also researching (reading) about Thymalin and Epithalon.
My main goals are anti-aging and energy and focus. The BioBoost doesn't do anything for me in the energy department, but I'm going to finish out the vial I have. I'm also a single mom of two who works full time and is a full-time student with a 10-month-old puppy. So, I think chronic fatigue is just a byproduct of my life at the moment.
I am exhausted just reading what your life is like right now! Wishing you some good sleep!
WinterFarce
New Member
THANK YOU!
LouiseBelcher
New Member
Thank you! I graduate at the beginning of May, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel!
TNDelta
New Member
Currently - 5mg Triz (since June) weekly. I'm down 40 lbs and not going up in dose until I stall.
Epithalon and Thymulin to help regulate sleep
In the freezer:
SS31 and MOTs-c - just finished this cycle great energy!
Nad+
TA-1
BPC / TB / GHKcu for Glow
Snap8 and GHK Raw for skin care in my night cream.
Epithalon and Thymulin to help regulate sleep
In the freezer:
SS31 and MOTs-c - just finished this cycle great energy!
Nad+
TA-1
BPC / TB / GHKcu for Glow
Snap8 and GHK Raw for skin care in my night cream.
In my fridge and in my body:
Tirz
DSIP
Epithalon
Three Pep Glow - mixed by me not a preblend
On my Body:
ghk-cu in face serum and body cream
In a cool dark place:
Pegasus Lipo C variant
ghk-cu raw
many vials of BAC with different expiration dates
In my freezer:
Tirz
DSIP
Epithalon
Snap-8
a few vials of Cagri
Products on their way to me:
Three peps for Glow
NAD+
Epithalon
VIP
and I've begun to collect Cortagon, Epithalon, Pinealon, Thymogen, Vesugen, and Vilon, cytogens dosed together to run Stack 2 in the three-stack cytogen anti-aging, among other things, protocol.
Tirz
DSIP
Epithalon
Three Pep Glow - mixed by me not a preblend
On my Body:
ghk-cu in face serum and body cream
In a cool dark place:
Pegasus Lipo C variant
ghk-cu raw
many vials of BAC with different expiration dates
In my freezer:
Tirz
DSIP
Epithalon
Snap-8
a few vials of Cagri
Products on their way to me:
Three peps for Glow
NAD+
Epithalon
VIP
and I've begun to collect Cortagon, Epithalon, Pinealon, Thymogen, Vesugen, and Vilon, cytogens dosed together to run Stack 2 in the three-stack cytogen anti-aging, among other things, protocol.
aDerpyPenguin
New Member
GLOW and a GHK-CU cosmetic cream helps with tightening loose skin, correct? I’m currently only in Tirz, but I’m fairly concerned with loose skin as I probably have 140-150lbs to go.
Apparently, supposedly, certainly what many are hoping it does! Lots of people here using both! Lots happy to help! And congrats on finding the forum and being on your journey!
Yanaga
New Member
Yanaga
New Member
6mg of Trizepatide, AOD and adding in GLOW
Nikki nik
GLP-1 Specialist
Hey how is the AOD
Yanaga
New Member
It has definitely started to make a difference in my belly fat. Was losing weight but wasn't really losing anything from my belly and since I added in the aod the inches have been coming off.
100% agree with this sentiment! Most MDs know near zero about hormone balancing outside of commonly treated pathologies, and you can forget about women's hormone needs! Most are even less knowledgeable about nutrition. Sure, with the glp1 craze, many more are showing interest in obesity med and might even begin contemplating that CICO isn't one size fits all. I also understand that most providers are overworked and lack the time to keep up with headline updates let alone dig into research.
I worked in a specialty area at an internationally renowned med institution, especially prized for research. I noticed that there might be a lot of buzz about a new study or tx protocol...but over time it would be pretty much forgotten or treated like it is biblical and never questioned. Except for those trying to earn more accolades and hop on a new study. SN: Gotta be thankful that you are capable and willing to do your own research, the vast majority of the population has extremely low health literacy, with no desire to change that. I'm also grateful that forums such as these exist.
I ordered a kit of Glutathione and when I reconstituted it, I learned how bad it smells (like sulfur). It is supposed to smell that way, but I have been afraid to inject it.
amynurse
New Member
My RS currently takes:
Tirz, 5mg weekly
Cagri, 0.5mg weekly
KPV, 300mcg daily (almost finished, will re-run)
*AOD9604, 250mcg twice daily (fasted)
*just started yesterday
RS did a run of NAD+, but did not get the energy benefits most do. Will try Pegasus blend next.
Tirz, 5mg weekly
Cagri, 0.5mg weekly
KPV, 300mcg daily (almost finished, will re-run)
*AOD9604, 250mcg twice daily (fasted)
*just started yesterday
RS did a run of NAD+, but did not get the energy benefits most do. Will try Pegasus blend next.
LouiseBelcher
New Member
Now I need to go smell my reconstituted vial! I didn't notice a sulfur smell, but that definitely would have turned me off as well.
